aschmahmann changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.7.0 and js-ipfs 0.52.3 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<Evanito[m]>
fiveseven: What metric are you using to come to this conclusion? By default I think the `ls` command only reports the root CID of a recursive pin.
<Evanito[m]>
Discordian: Consider including a note that a running IPFS daemon is required for ipfs-sync? Would help the people who stumble upon the project if they know all the reqs.
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<fiveseven[m]>
<Evanito[m] "fiveseven: What metric are you u"> the fact that it returns only 1 hash, immediately, on a very large folder it hasn't even tried to hash the rest of
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<fiveseven[m]>
anyway I found the issue
<fiveseven[m]>
symlink is not enough, I had to use a bind mount
<fiveseven[m]>
at least in the case of the snap version
<fiveseven[m]>
but on another system that doesn't use snap, symlink did work
<Evanito[m]>
Ohhh yeah, I can see filesystem magic confusing the hashing alg
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<alessandroetc[m]>
hey hey all
<Discordian[m]>
Heya, and good morning.
<alessandroetc[m]>
congrats on the launch of 0.2!
<alessandroetc[m]>
:rocket
<alessandroetc[m]>
🚀
<Discordian[m]>
Ayy thanks! I'm hoping I have time to release v0.2.1 today. I put it on the AUR too, which I thought was neat (and easy).
<aschmahmann>
geoah: you've already answered your own question. Per the spec CIDv1s just contain a multihash and a codec.
<aschmahmann>
Why do you want to use a CID here though? If you want to use multibase that's fine, you can use it with any data. Similarly if you're just trying to encode some bytes you can do it in some existing format like CBOR
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<DuCheng[m]>
hello
<alessandroetc[m]>
hey du
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<jamiew>
any tips for reducing machine load from running ipfs? I have a small NUC that is getting absolutely thrashed but needs to be running its own daemon
<jamiew>
does reducing peercount help? run jsipfs intead of go-ipfs? etc
<Discordian[m]>
Are you using dhclient?
<Discordian[m]>
* Are you using dhtclient?
<Discordian[m]>
* Are you using dhclient?
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<Discordian[m]>
* Are you using dhtclient?
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<Discordian[m]>
Reducing peercount, where's your bottleneck?
<Discordian[m]>
* Reducing peercount could help, where's your bottleneck?
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<Discordian[m]>
> In client mode, your node will query the DHT as a client but will not respond to requests from other peers. This mode is less resource intensive than server mode.
<Discordian[m]>
So what are the pros/cons of dhtclient?
<Evanito[m]>
As far as I know it does not affect your ability to provide content to the network in any way, as Providing seems to be a separate operation than the DHT mode
<Discordian[m]>
<Evanito[m] "As far as I know it does not aff"> Thanks that breakdown helped me understand a bit better I think.
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<ErichSpaker[m]>
I haven't used ipfs before, and want to try it.
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<ErichSpaker[m]>
I've got a server to run a node
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Ideas for things to use it for?
<M1312test1312[m]>
Are there some sites like torrent trackers where content is indexed and categorized? I only found a search engine but am instead searching for something like TPB
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<Discordian[m]>
<ErichSpaker[m] "Ideas for things to use it for?"> You could host a website on it, as a simple idea.
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<ErichSpaker[m]>
In what sense is ipfs not "for piracy"
<swedneck>
it's not designed for it and no official support can be given for that use case since it's like, illegal
<ErichSpaker[m]>
But there is nothing that prevents it
<ErichSpaker[m]>
So same as torrent
<swedneck>
oh yeah it works fine for it, but just please don't
<ErichSpaker[m]>
If it works for piracy, I have a feeling it will be used for that
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Unless other things work strictly better
<reversem3>
You can track any asset on IPFS , I would not use it for warez
<swedneck>
of course, and no one will stop you from using ipfs for illegal things, but it would be nice if people didn't :D
<reversem3>
you could however bridge it with Tor or I2P
<swedneck>
or, at the very least, be a bit classy about it and don't make posts about how you're using ipfs to distribute disney movies
<reversem3>
lol -- yes
<reversem3>
My advice don't use IPFS has a warez dump
<reversem3>
There are plenty of "better technology" for that kind of purpose
<ErichSpaker[m]>
I'm not interested in piracy
<ErichSpaker[m]>
But if a network is poorly designed to that purpose
<ErichSpaker[m]>
It has other undesirable properties
<reversem3>
how is it "poorly" designed?
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Either censurable or trackable
<reversem3>
IPFS was made specifically for public data
<reversem3>
to share via p2p , thats why its build on libp2p
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Alright, so trackable
<reversem3>
very
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Moreover than bittorrent?
<ErichSpaker[m]>
* Moreso than bittorrent?
<reversem3>
bitorrent uses DHT and some of the clients use encryption
<reversem3>
DHT is not a secured protocol by any means
<reversem3>
bitrorrent is it a secure protocol either
<reversem3>
* bitrorrent is not a secure protocol either
<reversem3>
its easy to track someone using bitorrent unless you use encryption both ways
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Still most torrents are public
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Identifying seeding ips would be trivial
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Unless I'm missing something
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Not sure how they aren't shut down
<reversem3>
yes most torrents are public and use public trackers, its up to the tracker to allow non encrypted data streams though
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Ah, communication over ipfs isn't encrypted though?
<reversem3>
depends on what you use for communication
<reversem3>
The whole point is decentralized
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Sorry, clearly I should read more
<reversem3>
so content can't be deleted
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Sounds like ipfs does the discovery
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Actual file transfer mechanism depends on implementation
<reversem3>
IPFS uses nodes to connect , the content is hashed
<reversem3>
so every piece of content you put on your node is hashed with crypto
<ErichSpaker[m]>
I'm imagining people using nzb's
<reversem3>
NZB's are way different
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Well an analogous concept
<reversem3>
NZBs are just partial files on a usenet
<ErichSpaker[m]>
You break a file up into many parts, encrypted each part separately, store the parts as seperate ipfs files
<reversem3>
you break a binary up into partial files then download each part until you get the full file
<reversem3>
sure you can do that
<reversem3>
Encrypt all your content and place it on your IPFS node
<reversem3>
only tell people what the content hash is it retrieve it
<reversem3>
but you can do that just using gpg and a web server
<reversem3>
but who would know the private key ?
<reversem3>
if you did asymmetric
<reversem3>
or use symmetric and only give the key to certain people whom need to encrypt the content
<ErichSpaker[m]>
I'm thinking you put the key in a nzb type file that knows the address and the decryption key
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Then anybody can pin it
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Or pin the relevant blocks
<ErichSpaker[m]>
If they want to help host it
<ErichSpaker[m]>
And anyone with the nzb can download
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Breaking up the file could help obfuscate, not sure if there's much point to that
<reversem3>
why not just use split
<ErichSpaker[m]>
With usenet I believe the reason was limits on message size
<ErichSpaker[m]>
Split?
<reversem3>
one moment
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<ErichSpaker[m]>
Okay, Ipfs splits files into chunks on its own.
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<reversem3>
no I mean encrypt a file then split it up in Mb chunks
<Encrypt>
reversem3, All my content is on IPFS? :O
<reversem3>
ok
<Encrypt>
Eh eh :D
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<M1312test1312[m]>
<ErichSpaker[m] "In what sense is ipfs not "for p"> It totally is. I think the future of piracy will look like [this](https://github.com/ZorrillosDev/watchit-desktop) but connected over I2P/VPN where the laws require it.
<M1312test1312[m]>
This at least a more realistic usecase than "it replaces http" what I read many times. If that happens privacy is gone forever and everybodys browsing behaviour gets broadcasted to the world.
<reversem3>
Wouldn't take much to track the content, there are already IPFS search engines
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