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<Discordian[m]> I figure sha224 should be fine, fast enough, shouldn't have to worry about collisions
<Discordian[m]> I figure sha224 should be fine, fast enough, shouldn't have to worry about collisions
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Idk, something simpler and faster, like md5 or sha1. Since its just going through local files it should be fine.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Idk, something simpler and faster, like md5 or sha1. Since its just going through local files it should be fine.
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<Discordian[m]> sha1 does seem to be a clear winner: https://automationrhapsody.com/md5-sha-1-sha-256-sha-512-speed-performance/
<Discordian[m]> sha1 does seem to be a clear winner: https://automationrhapsody.com/md5-sha-1-sha-256-sha-512-speed-performance/
<Evanito[m]> Aren't SHA1 and MD5 at risk of collision attacks?
<Evanito[m]> Aren't SHA1 and MD5 at risk of collision attacks?
<Discordian[m]> Yeah but it's just a local db to track if local files change
<Discordian[m]> Yeah but it's just a local db to track if local files change
<Discordian[m]> So sha1 should be fine
<Discordian[m]> So sha1 should be fine
<Evanito[m]> I know SHA1 is, at least
<Evanito[m]> I know SHA1 is, at least
<M0x76[m]> You also have things like murmurhash if you want fast non-cryptographic hashing
<M0x76[m]> You also have things like murmurhash if you want fast non-cryptographic hashing
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Since youre only doing the hashes fro your local database it shouldn't matter much, ipfs itself hases the files again anyway.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Since youre only doing the hashes fro your local database it shouldn't matter much, ipfs itself hases the files again anyway.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Since youre only doing the hashes fro your local database it shouldn't matter much, ipfs itself hashes the files again anyway.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Since youre only doing the hashes fro your local database it shouldn't matter much, ipfs itself hashes the files again anyway.
<Discordian[m]> <M0x76[m] "You also have things like murmur"> Thanks, I'll investigate
<Discordian[m]> <M0x76[m] "You also have things like murmur"> Thanks, I'll investigate
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> I think there was also something called xxhash or along these lines, similar to murrmurr
<RomeSilvanus[m]> I think there was also something called xxhash or along these lines, similar to murrmurr
<Evanito[m]> Oh this is not referring to the ipfs CID hashing implementation, I see.
<Evanito[m]> Oh this is not referring to the ipfs CID hashing implementation, I see.
<Discordian[m]> Nope, this is for ipfs-sync, a tool that uses the HTTP API
<Discordian[m]> Nope, this is for ipfs-sync, a tool that uses the HTTP API
<RomeSilvanus[m]> I'm just trying to find ways to make it faster. But I have to admit that hashing stuff isn't my expertise.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> I'm just trying to find ways to make it faster. But I have to admit that hashing stuff isn't my expertise.
<Discordian[m]> murmurhash looks quite fast
<Discordian[m]> murmurhash looks quite fast
<Evanito[m]> Right, I remember your project Disco. Just didn't read the chat backlog
<Evanito[m]> Right, I remember your project Disco. Just didn't read the chat backlog
<RomeSilvanus[m]> That was it
<RomeSilvanus[m]> That was it
<RomeSilvanus[m]> But I have no idea
<RomeSilvanus[m]> But I have no idea
<lemmi> RomeSilvanus[m]: there are soooo much faster and better options than md5/sha1. personally i like the blake family
<lemmi> RomeSilvanus[m]: there are soooo much faster and better options than md5/sha1. personally i like the blake family
<lemmi> not too exoctic, but still very fast and secure
<lemmi> not too exoctic, but still very fast and secure
<Discordian[m]> xxhash seems to beat murmur
<Discordian[m]> xxhash seems to beat murmur
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> Yeh, as I said, I don't really know hashing stuff that well. My assumption was just that you could probably use the fastest hashing algorithm there is since its only for a local db and would probably speed it up compared to sha265 since there aren't really any security concerns such as malicious attacks.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Yeh, as I said, I don't really know hashing stuff that well. My assumption was just that you could probably use the fastest hashing algorithm there is since its only for a local db and would probably speed it up compared to sha265 since there aren't really any security concerns such as malicious attacks.
<Discordian[m]> Alright, already switched it over
<Discordian[m]> Alright, already switched it over
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Inb4 switched over to sha2048
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Inb4 switched over to sha2048
<Discordian[m]> 64bit xxhash
<Discordian[m]> 64bit xxhash
<Discordian[m]> Totally untested BTW, but should work fine
<Discordian[m]> Totally untested BTW, but should work fine
<Discordian[m]> It'll probably update every file though so, there's that
<Discordian[m]> It'll probably update every file though so, there's that
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<Discordian[m]> The db will be even smaller now
<Discordian[m]> The db will be even smaller now
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Aroudn 25 seconds for a 1.5 GB file
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Aroudn 25 seconds for a 1.5 GB file
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Around 25 seconds for a 1.5 GB file
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Around 25 seconds for a 1.5 GB file
<Discordian[m]> It does seem faster, but it's hard to tell because it was already extremely fast for me lol
<Discordian[m]> It does seem faster, but it's hard to tell because it was already extremely fast for me lol
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Is it actually making something like a file list before it starts hashing files?
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Is it actually making something like a file list before it starts hashing files?
<Discordian[m]> Yeah
<Discordian[m]> Yeah
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Okay, that explains why it doesnt show any new output on my 6Tb folder
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Okay, that explains why it doesnt show any new output on my 6Tb folder
<RomeSilvanus[m]> It just takes ages to make a file list
<RomeSilvanus[m]> It just takes ages to make a file list
<Discordian[m]> Wow how many files? lmao
<Discordian[m]> Wow how many files? lmao
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Damn you, HDDs
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Damn you, HDDs
<Discordian[m]> I've only tested it with SSDs
<Discordian[m]> I've only tested it with SSDs
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Around 12 or 14 million I think
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Around 12 or 14 million I think
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Mostly <1mb files
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Mostly <1mb files
<Discordian[m]> Holy shit lmfao
<Discordian[m]> Holy shit lmfao
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> Thats one of the smaller folders
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Thats one of the smaller folders
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<Discordian[m]> 1.2GB of 18k files took around 3s on my SSD lol
<Discordian[m]> 1.2GB of 18k files took around 3s on my SSD lol
<Discordian[m]> For the local db step at least
<Discordian[m]> For the local db step at least
<Discordian[m]> Not adding it all into IPFS, oh no, that takes forever
<Discordian[m]> Not adding it all into IPFS, oh no, that takes forever
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<Discordian[m]> I can probably improve that quite a bit, if `files/write` gets fixed, that'll speed it up too I think
<Discordian[m]> I can probably improve that quite a bit, if `files/write` gets fixed, that'll speed it up too I think
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Do you actually need to make a whole filelist first? Why not just statr at the root and go through all folders, only looking ahead a bit?
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Do you actually need to make a whole filelist first? Why not just statr at the root and go through all folders, only looking ahead a bit?
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Do you actually need to make a whole filelist first? Why not just start at the root and go through all folders, only looking ahead a bit?
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Do you actually need to make a whole filelist first? Why not just start at the root and go through all folders, only looking ahead a bit?
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<Discordian[m]> I could modify it to not do that, currently it's using a generic function I use in all sorts of places
<Discordian[m]> I could modify it to not do that, currently it's using a generic function I use in all sorts of places
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Ah yes, it's readaing all files to ipfs now since the hashes mismatch
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Ah yes, it's readaing all files to ipfs now since the hashes mismatch
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Ah yes, it's readding all files to ipfs now since the hashes mismatch
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Ah yes, it's readding all files to ipfs now since the hashes mismatch
<Discordian[m]> Yup lmao
<Discordian[m]> Yup lmao
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Seems kinda it would be faster to get a folder done if you just go with a bit of lookahead
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Seems kinda it would be faster to get a folder done if you just go with a bit of lookahead
<RomeSilvanus[m]> At least on non-SSDs
<RomeSilvanus[m]> At least on non-SSDs
<RomeSilvanus[m]> I'd switch to an SSD server but they're too expensive for the amount of space I need
<RomeSilvanus[m]> I'd switch to an SSD server but they're too expensive for the amount of space I need
<Discordian[m]> Yeah I bet
<Discordian[m]> Yeah I bet
<Discordian[m]> Well it'll be about the same speed I'd imagine, no? As when it builds the file list, it's just looking up data in the filesystem, no?
<Discordian[m]> Well it'll be about the same speed I'd imagine, no? As when it builds the file list, it's just looking up data in the filesystem, no?
<Discordian[m]> * Well it'll be about the same speed I'd imagine. As when it builds the file list, it's just looking up data in the filesystem, no?
<Discordian[m]> * Well it'll be about the same speed I'd imagine. As when it builds the file list, it's just looking up data in the filesystem, no?
<Discordian[m]> I thought that's all listings did anyways
<Discordian[m]> I thought that's all listings did anyways
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Maybe right. I kinda assumed it would be faster since you could start hashing files right away while simultaneously collection them.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Maybe right. I kinda assumed it would be faster since you could start hashing files right away while simultaneously collection them.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Instead of having to wait for the processs to finish first.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Instead of having to wait for the processs to finish first.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Instead of having to wait for the process to finish first.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Instead of having to wait for the process to finish first.
<Discordian[m]> Might be if it's touching the files at all
<Discordian[m]> Might be if it's touching the files at all
<Discordian[m]> Not sure if it is or not, really. Doesn't look like it is
<Discordian[m]> Not sure if it is or not, really. Doesn't look like it is
<Discordian[m]> This way just makes the code easier to work with tbh
<Discordian[m]> This way just makes the code easier to work with tbh
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Why can't I randomly find like 1PB of SSDs on the street ;_;
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Why can't I randomly find like 1PB of SSDs on the street ;_;
<Discordian[m]> lmao that'd be nice
<Discordian[m]> lmao that'd be nice
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Sorry to bother you with all my plebian HDD problems :v
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Sorry to bother you with all my plebian HDD problems :v
<Discordian[m]> Haha it's cool, I'm sure you just want to see it hashing sooner to see the new speed ll
<Discordian[m]> Haha it's cool, I'm sure you just want to see it hashing sooner to see the new speed ll
<Discordian[m]> * Haha it's cool, I'm sure you just want to see it hashing sooner to see the new speed lol
<Discordian[m]> * Haha it's cool, I'm sure you just want to see it hashing sooner to see the new speed lol
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<Discordian[m]> Looks like over a few GB, you'll definitely save a few seconds with the new algo. So several TB is definitely some time savings.
<Discordian[m]> Looks like over a few GB, you'll definitely save a few seconds with the new algo. So several TB is definitely some time savings.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Nice
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Nice
<RomeSilvanus[m]> 👌
<RomeSilvanus[m]> 👌
<Discordian[m]> Thanks for the recommendation, love finding new things. Now I use 3, 3rd-party libs lol
<Discordian[m]> Thanks for the recommendation, love finding new things. Now I use 3, 3rd-party libs lol
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<ipfsbot> @ipfsnoob posted in File not getting published - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/file-not-getting-published/10574/1
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<ipfsbot> @ipfsnoob posted in How to backup and restore - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/how-to-backup-and-restore/10575/1
<ipfsbot> @ipfsnoob posted in How to backup and restore - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/how-to-backup-and-restore/10575/1
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<placancomal1972[> I love to suck, do well, sех, do not mind sех together for you URL http://v.ht/5tI7X
<placancomal1972[> I love to suck, do well, sех, do not mind sех together for you URL http://v.ht/5tI7X
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<Piddle> <placancomal1972[ "I love to suck, do well, sех, do"> wrong server for that, neckbeards only here
<Piddle> <placancomal1972[ "I love to suck, do well, sех, do"> wrong server for that, neckbeards only here
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<RubenKelevra[m]> <Piddle "wrong server for that, neckbeard"> Don't nag our spambots. They are thin-skinned 😬
<RubenKelevra[m]> <Piddle "wrong server for that, neckbeard"> Don't nag our spambots. They are thin-skinned 😬
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<Discordian[m]> Rome Silvanus: I plan to fix [ipfs-sync#29](https://github.com/TheDiscordian/ipfs-sync/issues/29) today, which should be a massive performance increase for large filesets.
<Discordian[m]> Rome Silvanus: I plan to fix [ipfs-sync#29](https://github.com/TheDiscordian/ipfs-sync/issues/29) today, which should be a massive performance increase for large filesets.
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<NukaLibre2> who boy, I misread how many people were connected here. crowded
<NukaLibre2> who boy, I misread how many people were connected here. crowded
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<NukaLibre> Is this a good place to ask about SSL on a DNS subdomain for my IPFS content?
<NukaLibre> Is this a good place to ask about SSL on a DNS subdomain for my IPFS content?
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<NukaLibre> Guess not. Maybe the bifrost isn't working. I'll try on Discord.
<NukaLibre> Guess not. Maybe the bifrost isn't working. I'll try on Discord.
<swedneck> please never expect instant answers in a chat room
<swedneck> please never expect instant answers in a chat room
<NukaLibre> well, not this one anyway. :D
<NukaLibre> well, not this one anyway. :D
<ipfsbot> Daniel Maricic @woss posted in Why ipfs.files.write doesn't returns the CID - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/why-ipfs-files-write-doesnt-returns-the-cid/10580/1
<ipfsbot> Daniel Maricic @woss posted in Why ipfs.files.write doesn't returns the CID - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/why-ipfs-files-write-doesnt-returns-the-cid/10580/1
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> Nice
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Nice
<RomeSilvanus[m]> God I love optimizations
<RomeSilvanus[m]> God I love optimizations
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * @Discordian Nice
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * @Discordian Nice
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Nice
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Nice
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<efmaslino1987[m]> It's a pleasure to meet you. https://mawuzud.page.link/Rhp7C7CP35VoUiQV6
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<efmaslino1987[m]> It's a pleasure to meet you. https://mawuzud.page.link/Rhp7C7CP35VoUiQV6
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<rak[m]> hello
<rak[m]> hello
<rak[m]> had question regarding autorelay functionality in ipfs
<rak[m]> had question regarding autorelay functionality in ipfs
<rak[m]> "/ip4/147.75.80.110/tcp/4001/p2p/QmbFgm5zan8P6eWWmeyfncR5feYEMPbht5b1FW1C37aQ7y",
<rak[m]> "/ip4/147.75.80.110/tcp/4001/p2p/QmbFgm5zan8P6eWWmeyfncR5feYEMPbht5b1FW1C37aQ7y",
<rak[m]> "/ip4/147.75.70.221/tcp/4001/p2p/Qme8g49gm3q4Acp7xWBKg3nAa9fxZ1YmyDJdyGgoG6LsXh",
<rak[m]> "/ip4/147.75.195.153/tcp/4001/p2p/QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei",
<rak[m]> "/ip4/147.75.195.153/tcp/4001/p2p/QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei",
<rak[m]> "/ip4/147.75.70.221/tcp/4001/p2p/Qme8g49gm3q4Acp7xWBKg3nAa9fxZ1YmyDJdyGgoG6LsXh",
<rak[m]> these are default relays, right?
<rak[m]> these are default relays, right?
<rak[m]> can relay with peer ID QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei exist on IP 147.75.195.153, as well as on different IP like B.X.Y.Z simultaneously?
<rak[m]> can relay with peer ID QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei exist on IP 147.75.195.153, as well as on different IP like B.X.Y.Z simultaneously?
<rak[m]> or it can only be on 147.75.195.153?
<rak[m]> or it can only be on 147.75.195.153?
<rak[m]> who manages those three relays anyway?
<rak[m]> who manages those three relays anyway?
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<Discordian[m]> I'm assuming Protocol Labs
<Discordian[m]> I'm assuming Protocol Labs
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<ipfs-stackbot> New IPFS question on StackOverflow: Import ipfs in TypeScript - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66755284/import-ipfs-in-typescript
<ipfs-stackbot> New IPFS question on StackOverflow: Import ipfs in TypeScript - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66755284/import-ipfs-in-typescript
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