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<Discordian[m]> [ipfs-sync v0.4.2](https://github.com/TheDiscordian/ipfs-sync/releases/tag/v0.4.2) released! 🎉 Rome Silvanus: this contains a fix for that filestore "file is missing" bug.
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<iczero> is it normal that the public read-only api on the gateway returns 403 when the origin header is set? it seems to work fine on the ipfs.io gateway (https://ipfs.io/api/v0/dag/get?arg=whatever) but for my hosted gateway it gives "403 - Forbidden"
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<iczero> i have the CORS headers set on the gateway config (Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *, Access-Control-Allow-Methods: GET)
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<iczero> actually it seems Access-Control-Allow-Origin isn't added to any response from the readonly api
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<iczero> setting Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * in API.HTTPHeaders makes the readonly api not 403 but it still doesn't add Access-Control-Allow-Origin to the response
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<ipfs-stackbot> New IPFS question on StackOverflow: How to create an ipfs hash from an image source? - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66841245/how-to-create-an-ipfs-hash-from-an-image-source
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<jurjendevries[m]> Hi Discordian , how are you doing?
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<jurjendevries[m]> I just rebooted my server, but now having some issues. Getting a error:
<jurjendevries[m]> 2021/03/28 18:45:46 Error updating pin: invalid path "": path does not begin with '/'
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<Discordian[m]> That's harmless, it'll arise on older versions of ipfs-sync if it receives and empty or no response when trying to fetch your current IPNS CID.
<Discordian[m]> And thanks I'm doing well, playing with embedding videos: http://portal.thedisco.zone/videos/
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> Nice you put in yaml
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Hmm.. I just realized, can you put in multiple dir?
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<Discordian[m]> <jurjendevries[m] "2021/03/28 18:45:46 Error updati"> Don't worry, totally harmless. Reported in [#21](https://github.com/TheDiscordian/ipfs-sync/issues/21), fixed in [2096f014](https://github.com/TheDiscordian/ipfs-sync/commit/0b209ae28a784ad2bbdeaacf746cff092096f014) (v0.4.1 or newer).
<RomeSilvanus[m]> With json I used to just make them multiline
<Discordian[m]> <RomeSilvanus[m] "Hmm.. I just realized, can you p"> In YAML? Yup, I'm using it
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Nice
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> Oh I competely forgot that toml exists
<Discordian[m]> It was practically a 1-line change too (besides updating structs a bit)
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> Yaml seemed the easiest for non technical inclined people to rea
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Now I have to keep in mine to change my config before I update
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<Discordian[m]> Yeah haha, or it might explode. Wasn't sure if I should make it migrate, figured I'd rather users get alerted to the change
<Discordian[m]> I don't want to support JSON configs at all, so it's nice to have that out of the way early
<RomeSilvanus[m]> You can just run a simple check to see if a json config exists (and no yam one)
<RomeSilvanus[m]> If both exist then its to assume that they just didnt remove the old one
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * You can just run a simple check to see if a json config exists (and no yaml one)
<RomeSilvanus[m]> If both exist then its to assume that they just didnt remove the old one
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<Discordian[m]> I thought about that, but I'd rather the user get involved in case there's a new param they want, or if they want to copy the sample (with the embedded documentation), etc.
<Discordian[m]> Oh shit I just realised it'll still gen a JSON config if it doesn't find a config
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<Discordian[m]> sigh
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> You could show a info text at the start of the run (changelog) that either needs to be confirmed, or waits X seconds until it continues.
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<Discordian[m]> Nah I'll leave that up to package managers, maybe on huge breaking changes after v1 do something like that
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<Discordian[m]> Like v1 -> v2 will likely need to be handled with care, because major releases be like that
<Discordian[m]> But that's quite a ways off
<RomeSilvanus[m]> You aren't a proper OSS project unless you're stuck at version 0.0.0.1.0.1. etc forever
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<Discordian[m]> Tbh I think I'll make it embed the sample config on build, and use that for config gen
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<Discordian[m]> Lmao, I just follow Go semver
<Discordian[m]> So this next release, because of the YAML change, will be a minor release so people can prepare for something other than just bug fixes
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<Discordian[m]> v1 will be after things are stable, we're not regularly adding in new features, and possibly breaking things.
<Discordian[m]> v2 will be if we ever need to break v1.
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> I'm gonna leave the version now running though before I update, it's been 4 days and its still at halfway through my second biggest folder. I just want it to finish so I can at least access the content before I have to restart everything.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> YOLO
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * Nice
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<Discordian[m]> Oh yeah I'd hold off, new version isn't any faster, just deals with updating filestore WAY better
<Discordian[m]> Doesn't do anything with initial scans though
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> I doubt that I'll see much of an speed improvement unless you completely skip the checksum and rely on stuff like size&moddate.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Not with using hard disk drives.
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> * I doubt that I'll see much of an speed improvement unless you completely skip the checksum and rely on stuff like size&moddate only.
<Discordian[m]> Haha yeah I'd do size+moddate, but that's screwed me in that past
<Discordian[m]> Maybe it could be an option 🤔
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Nice
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<Discordian[m]> Well the initial hashing step, how long does that take?
<RomeSilvanus[m]> All folders probably over a month.
<Discordian[m]> That's before it begins adding you mean?
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Yes
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<Discordian[m]> Holy shit
<RomeSilvanus[m]> As I said, HDDs are slow. Especially with millions of small files.
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<Discordian[m]> It takes a few seconds to do 18k files on my NVME wow, I'll have to change that ...
<Discordian[m]> You could turn the DB off, but running without a DB kinda sucks lol
<RomeSilvanus[m]> I once almost had ipfs add finish adding a big folder after nearly 2 months. But then I foolishly deleted a file and ipfs died because it suddenly couldn't find it anymore for adding.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> W A S T E D
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * All this time. W A S T E D.
<Discordian[m]> I thought the initial hashing took a bit, but not that long, and you were currently adding to IPFS
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<Discordian[m]> Hate to break it to you, but it checks the hashes on each boot rn
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Nah, that's why I said some time ago that it would be nice if it could do both at the same time.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Then it would at least add something already.
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> Yes, but it's not that problematic then since I don't restart my server that often.
<Discordian[m]> Yeah I see what you wanted now, I thought you just wanted it to build the filelist in advance, which I realised it sorta does (only does that step once)
<RomeSilvanus[m]> As I said, this is only the second bigegst folder with like 6TB and 15(?) million files I think?
<RomeSilvanus[m]> The biggest one is around 15TB and 30 million files.
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> * As I said, this is only the second bigegst folder with like 2TB and 15(?) million files I think?
<RomeSilvanus[m]> I wish I had an SSD server but no one's as cheap as Hetzner for the amount of space they offer.
<Discordian[m]> Still over a month to get the watchdog started is insane, I'll make a lightweight option to just check moddate and filesize for extreme use-cases like that. Realistically it's roughly the same time it'd take to transfer all the files to memory once.
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<Discordian[m]> But using just the fs data, it'd be significantly faster than that, just less accurate.
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> Rclone does mod&size on default and a big folder takes only a few days with it (while doing multiple at once). Its definitely the faster option.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Though it should probably a expert setting then.
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<Discordian[m]> Yeah it'll be disabled by default
<RomeSilvanus[m]> And I mean, then the file content changes the modtime & size change anyway. You'd have to deliberately keep it the same to trick the system so there should be too many problems I assume.
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<Discordian[m]> Honestly I've run into annoying things (like certain archiving tools), where the data doesn't update how you'd expect.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> * And I mean, when the file content changes the modtime & size change anyway. You'd have to deliberately keep it the same to trick the system so there should be too many problems I assume.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Yes, but if the size stays the same then its the same file.
<Discordian[m]> But with that extreme scenario, that issue seems negligible
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<Discordian[m]> Not always, sometimes bytes change in-place.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Oh, right.
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<Discordian[m]> I'll probably have a `DontHash` flag added for directories.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> I always wondered if you can't just use the FS journal directly? AS far as I know every change is stored in there.
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<Discordian[m]> I think it depends on the FS though. Keeping it simple having a hash option, and one that just uses data that's pretty common across them is safe.
<Discordian[m]> That way we'll definitely work with like FAT32/exFAT/ext2/3/4/BTRFS/ZFS/etc...
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> If you use fat you deserve to suffer.
<Discordian[m]> Haha never know, maybe someone is running on a Pi with a USB drive they want synced while the Pi is offline
<Discordian[m]> * Haha never know, maybe someone is running on a Pi with a USB drive they want synced while the Pi is online
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<swedneck> i mean you can have EXT on a usb drive
<Discordian[m]> Yeah, but their primary machine might be Windows, and Ext is a pain on Windows
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Then you will double suffer.
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Some unimportant stats
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<Discordian[m]> Haha it knows the progress?
<Discordian[m]> That's cool
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Really neat for jobs
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> * That's https://github.com/jhuckaby/Cronicle
<Discordian[m]> I really want to see ipfs-sync work with your use-case efficiently.
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> At this point I'm pretty sure my use case it the extremest
<Discordian[m]> Oh it's pretty, I guess it probably doesn't actually know the progress I guess
<Discordian[m]> Yeah you certainly put ipfs-sync to the extremes earlier than I expected someone would try
<Discordian[m]> Fixed a looooot of bugs on the way, now we're just performance I think.
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<RomeSilvanus[m]> It does watch the job, just cant display much with shell scripts.
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<Discordian[m]> Yeah, I don't give any progress indicator, and I can't really know how long things will take
<Discordian[m]> Could probably guess though tbh, or display a filecount progress or something
<RomeSilvanus[m]> It would look good, can't way it's something I really need right now
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<Discordian[m]> Might be a good feature for the HTTP API tbh, that way I don't need to regularly do an output
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<jurjendevries[m]> <Discordian[m] "Don't worry, totally harmless. R"> Ok thx. I thought it might be the reason why it wasn't syncing the last updated/added files. But I will update first to newest version and see what this will do.
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<Discordian[m]> It does that if it loses connection to the IPFS daemon. And yeah the newest version should be even better, it also tries to ignore/prevent those errors.
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<jurjendevries[m]> Since I restarted the server I even couldn't find how I was running the daemon. I forgot to make some documentation and couldn't find it in my bash history file either. But it makes sense, because the connection with the daemon was lost
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<ipfsbot> @ADD12 posted in How long can we safely store IPFS Files - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/how-long-can-we-safely-store-ipfs-files/10638/1
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<jurjendevries[m]> Discordian: I am using the new config YAML , unfortunately getting an error. Not understand why https://pastebin.com/6a3Dn9Lu
<jurjendevries[m]> my current config is https://pastebin.com/LeQ2Gapk
<RomeSilvanus[m]> Looks like its parsing the config as json
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<jurjendevries[m]> okay, that can be the reason. I am running 2021/03/28 20:30:51 Starting up ipfs-sync v0.4.2 ... . But this is the release from linux binary and I found out some other files where also still json based. https://github.com/TheDiscordian/ipfs-sync/issues/35
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<Discordian[m]> v0.4.2 is still on JSON, YAML config is only in master, and not recommended yet.
<jurjendevries[m]> ah, lol
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<Discordian[m]> 🙂 v0.5.0 will have YAML support
<jurjendevries[m]> I thought master is also 0.4.2
<jurjendevries[m]> my mistake
<Discordian[m]> No worries! There's 1 bug I want to fix with YAML that only has to do with config gen, then YAML will be ready-to-go
<Discordian[m]> I also want to add the feature Rome suggested, where instead of hashing have an option to skip that, and use side+modification date instead.
<Discordian[m]> * I also want to add the feature Rome suggested, where instead of hashing have an option to skip that, and use size+modification date instead.
<jurjendevries[m]> Not sure what that is about, but nice to see the active user base of ipfs-sync is growing :-)
<jurjendevries[m]> Okay, I revert to json. It is running again. But still some new errors
<jurjendevries[m]> Error adding file: cp: cannot put node in path /root/ipfs-sync/public/robots.txt: directory already has entry by that name
<jurjendevries[m]> and more of the same with some other files
<jurjendevries[m]> Anyhow, it synced most of the files that didn't synced before of the server restart, so there is some progress 😁
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<Discordian[m]> Oh yeah that's fine, it might have been a really old version you upgraded from, if-so, it just tried to re-add everything, and any duplicates simply failed to re-add.
<Discordian[m]> Glad to hear it fixed most of the syncing too! This version should be significantly more robust for that
<jurjendevries[m]> "really old version". I am feeling reallllllllly old myself now 🤣
<Discordian[m]> Hahahaha I guess I've been working on it a lot, so even just a month old, feels ages away now
<Discordian[m]> I'm also really happy to see more people using it 🙂. I'm glad it's useful, and just getting more useful.
<jurjendevries[m]> 🥳
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