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<theseb>
is it possible for an interested developer to learn the innards of libp2p w/o too much effort? I'd to write a python clone but don't know if that is unrealistic
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<McSinyx[m]>
there is py-libp2p FYI
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<theseb>
McSinyx[m]: yea...it is in alpha state and Gitter channel is dead
<McSinyx[m]>
the specs are huge, you'd need a team for it
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<McSinyx[m]>
and the project is not exactly dead, at least that's not what I've been told recently
<theseb>
McSinyx[m]: thanks..that confirms what i suspected...that it isn't a trivial app
<theseb>
McSinyx[m]: if libp2p is so huge how did a few college kids that got funding from Ethereum Foundation ever expect to crank out py-libp2p?
<McSinyx[m]>
it's just going slowly, but they do e.g. review patches and such
<theseb>
McSinyx[m]: I appreciate your help....i'm scared to ask to get involved because seems I don't have a chance of groking the whole thing
<theseb>
at least not in this decade
<McSinyx[m]>
iiuc they were expected to kickstart it, enough to gain attention from the community (also to integrate with trinity, which is now half ded too iiuc)
<McSinyx[m]>
and they certainly got out attention :wink:
<McSinyx[m]>
you don't need to, not in a project of that scope
<McSinyx[m]>
somebody lurking around fixing things here and there would greatly help
<theseb>
McSinyx[m]: if you look at the Gitter channel...the ONLY 2 messages in the last SIX months are 2 new people saying "Hey I'm interested! How can I help!?"
<theseb>
McSinyx[m]: and BOTH of those messages went ununaswered
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<McSinyx[m]>
I don't think I have looked into it, my point is, some maintainers still have the mental space to work on it, so if you want to join, you can offer your hand and even ask for write access
<McSinyx[m]>
it's a good thing gitter is now matrix and it won't be as obsolate as before
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<theseb>
McSinyx[m]: Matrix? interesting..didn't know that
<rak[m]>
QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei can only be hosted on 147.75.195.153/
<rak[m]>
it would be strange if you see "/ip4/102.32.31.4/tcp/41231/p2p/QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei",
<rak[m]>
isnt?
<swedneck>
well no, it just means you'll connect via that address
<swedneck>
i don't see why it would be strange
<rak[m]>
i know i can connect over that address, but what does here 102.32.31.4 mean?
<rak[m]>
102.32.31.4 is different node than QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei?
<swedneck>
it's an IPv4 address of that peer
<swedneck>
again, one computer can have an arbitrary amount of addresses
<swedneck>
i have 3 IPv6 addresses and 1 IPv4 address on my desktop
<Discordian[m]>
3 IPv6? Surprised, I only have 2. A local, and a global.
<Discordian[m]>
I like IPv6, so simple.
<swedneck>
this is precisely why we have peer IDs, otherwise it would be mighty hard to know if an address is the same peer or not
<rak[m]>
let me rephrase, official relay QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei is hosted only on 147.75.195.153, so this is referenced by "/ip4/147.75.195.153/tcp/4001/p2p/QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei",
<swedneck>
<Discordian[m] "3 IPv6? Surprised, I only have 2"> probably some weirdness because i have to use a 6in4 tunnel
<rak[m]>
ip4 parts refers to the hoster of that relay, correct?
<Discordian[m]>
Ah makes sense
<swedneck>
<rak[m] "let me rephrase, official rela"> how do you know it's only on that ipv4 address?
<swedneck>
do you know how internet networking works at all?
<rak[m]>
ipfs id QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei shows only 1 ip
<rak[m]>
as in source code buddy
<rak[m]>
so question again,
<swedneck>
<rak[m] "ipfs id QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7"> it shows like 20 addresses for me
<swedneck>
you can also just view the CID via your local gateway
<swedneck>
reload it, sometimes it's slow
<Discordian[m]>
URL only took a moment for me
<swedneck>
also: for seeing the addresses of a peer it's better to use `ipfs dht findpeer <peerID>`
<rak[m]>
exactly, if you
<rak[m]>
ipfs id QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei
<rak[m]>
several times with timeouts maybe
<rak[m]>
you will only see official ip 147.
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<swedneck>
there is no official ip
<swedneck>
it simply shows the addresses that the peer has published to the DHT
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<swedneck>
i can 100% confirm that /ip4/101.99.95.125/tcp/15079/p2p/QmW9m57aiBDHAkKj9nmFSEn7ZqrcF1fZS4bipsTCHburei is a valid address to that peer since i can ping it without issue
<Discordian[m]>
He left
<Discordian[m]>
That was zany
<swedneck>
odd
<swedneck>
i can't help but think i've DOSed someone or given my ip away
<swedneck>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<Discordian[m]>
Hahaha, I'm sure it's fine.
<Discordian[m]>
Sometimes I wish I could chroot into people's heads to see how they see something.
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<McSinyx[m]>
elon musk, is that you?
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