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<RichardEHatfield>
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<swedneck>
okay that's weird, it says i don't have permission to remove messages, but i'm moderator..
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<Discordian[m]>
<swedneck "okay that's weird, it says i don"> AFAIK your feneas acc isn't. I only see 3 swednecks as mods, but this acc isn't one.
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<alessandroetc[m]>
morning y'all
<Discordian[m]>
Mornin'!
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<djdv[m]>
There hasn't been a good place to post status updates on that effort, so the reports typically get sent directly via email or XMPP to a handful of interested people.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
<fiveseven[m] "even the current go-ipfs is unwi"> are you on Linux?
<fiveseven[m]>
yes
<fiveseven[m]>
I had to use cpulimit to curb its usage
<fiveseven[m]>
my games kept stuttering
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<theseb>
AWS ?
<theseb>
How does filecoin storage provide strong guarantees? Does it by default use
<theseb>
letting random people on the network store valuable data compared to using say
<theseb>
lots of redundancies? Something like a RAID system? Isn't there a risk in
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<theseb>
Oh i see...you don't trust you data to random nodes but rather you select storage providers
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb:
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb: well yeah, you would just select additional storage providers if you want redundancies. But local redundancies are probably used, since they won't get payed if they loose your data.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb: but you know, this channel isn't about filecoin, so maybe head over to the filecoin channel :)
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<theseb>
RubenKelevra[m]1: i assume they were all related
<theseb>
and nearly the same thing
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<RubenKelevra[m]1>
<fiveseven[m] "I had to use cpulimit to curb it"> I just use cgroups to move it to the background. The impact is minimal on latency when I use it for browsing etc. if there's not a large cpu usage from a different application, which isn't the case on my notebook anyway:
<Discordian[m]>
They're under the same umbrella, and related, but the rooms have different focuses. Like you'll find more people knowledgeable about FileCoin in a FileCoin room.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb: nope, IPFS is a content addressing network. You can store files on your node and everyone else can access them via the Content-IDs.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
They have both touching poins, but it's like saying HTTP and FTP are the same thing. :)
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
Filecoin on the other hand is a crypto currency based network where you make contracts to have others store your files for a given amount of times.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
* theseb: nope, IPFS is a content addressing network. You can store files on your node and everyone else can access them via the Content-IDs.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
Filecoin on the other hand is a crypto currency based network where you make contracts to have others store your files for a given amount of times.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
They have both touching points, but it's like saying HTTP and FTP are the same thing. :)
<theseb>
RubenKelevra[m]1: wait...so is filecoin a competitor to ipfs and/or a separate network?
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb: they have a different focus, so they are not competing and yes they are seperate networks.
<theseb>
RubenKelevra[m]1: thanks...so filecoin to STORE and ipfs to SHARE data
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<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb: well, that might be the main focus, but you can actually do both with both. Like you can use FTP to share data, while it's more for storing, and HTTP to store data, which is actually more about sharing them.
<theseb>
thanks..makes sense
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb: the main difference is, that with filecoin you upload your data to the network, while on ipfs the data will stay on your node. That's why you have to pay crypto currencies for filecoin "storage" while you can add data to the IPFS network "for free".
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb: when you add data to IPFS, you won't push the data to the network, but just hash the data and send the network the info, that this data can now be accessed via your node.
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<theseb>
RubenKelevra[m]1: i love ipfs...can i ask why you are interested in it? just curious'
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<RubenKelevra[m]1>
theseb: I'm loving the aspect of removing the need for servers to offer data. You can just add the data to your node and other people will keep a copy of it after accessing it, making it somewhat persistently stored on the network.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
It also allows to build efficient data sharing in local mesh networks instead of needing a high speed internet connection to move data around the block.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
This allows people with low resources to share data, like creators of videos without having to fear censorship by a platform.
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<ZerXes>
djdv[m]: Wow, thanks for that writeup! Sad to hear about your health :/ hope you feel better soon!
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<RubenKelevra[m]1>
Agreed. djdv thanks for the work on this, I would highly appreciate this functionality! :)
<swedneck>
<RubenKelevra[m]1 "theseb: well, that might be the "> to be pedantic, you don't store data on either, you store data on filesystems on a drive :D
<swedneck>
and while ipfs contains the word "filesystem", you can't use ipfs directly on a disk, it needs a filesystem to store data on
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<RubenKelevra[m]1>
jan Swedneck: well they are all transfer protocols 🤔
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
IPFS could store in theory stuff on disks, somebody would just need to create datastore type for this :)
<swedneck>
mmmh i don't think that would actually be ipfs though
<swedneck>
it would be an on-disk filesystem using IPLD datastructures or something like that
<swedneck>
i guess it depends on if you define ipfs as the actual entire protocol spec, or just the general principle of how data is handled and represented
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<RubenKelevra[m]1>
jan Swedneck: I mean, are the current datastores not part of IPFS? 🤔
<swedneck>
sure, but they're not themselves ipfs, if that makes sense?
<swedneck>
like a tyre isn't a car
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<RubenKelevra[m]1>
jan Swedneck: alright. But in this case you could add tracks to the car and call it an offroad vehicle which don't need roads (filesystems) :D
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
You know what would be really cool? Have a boot disk on a computer which loads a small ipfs daemon which spins off the network and fetches the data for a root partition which gets written to the memory and contains the fully fledged ipfs daemon.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
The kernel then gets loaded from this root partition and loads the daemon which mounts the full system partition via FUSE or NFS via ipfs.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
😁
<swedneck>
well ideally the ipfs daemon would be on the bios
<swedneck>
i wonder how far you could take it with bios-level ipfs support
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
I'm not sure there's enough space to get the full network stack for ipfs on it next to the bios.
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
This could probably be taken over completely and offer a network boot image on the fly for the bios
<RubenKelevra[m]1>
But most modern computers have this management system which has direct access to the network via the bios.