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<srid>
I actually wonder if it is possible to make Brave use local gateway by default, and then fallback to something like cloudflare-ipfs.com if that's not available.
<srid>
I don't like Brave automatically downloading and running some Go executable on my computer.
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<Discordian[m]>
I think there's an option to do that
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<seigemaster69[m]>
new here
<Discordian[m]>
Looks like you need IPFS Companion to avoid Brave's integrated daemon. I don't understand why things don't just use the local daemon if it's there, and not worry about starting up a node if they don't have to.
<Discordian[m]>
<seigemaster69[m] "new here"> Welcome! Hope you enjoy your stay
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<alessandroetc[m]>
hi @siegemaster69
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "Welcome! Hope you enjoy your sta"> thanks is it possible to run the same nodes and host the same nodes on different systems ?
<Discordian[m]>
What do you mean by "same node"?
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<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "What do you mean by "same node"?"> EG, i used to host some videos and files on my previous app download , i had to reinstall my os and redownload the app , loosing everything i hosted
<Discordian[m]>
You could pin the same CIDs to other nodes. I believe `ipfs-cluster` should help you mirror data easily too.
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "You could pin the same CIDs to o"> i think i lost it ;(
<Discordian[m]>
Oh yeah you're going to have to start over if it's all gone now, but you can setup using ipfs-cluster and multiple nodes to achieve redundancy. I'm working on alternatives too, but currently that's the best way to achieve that, that I know of.
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "Oh yeah you're going to have to "> okay thanks man
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<yiannisbot[m]>
Hi everyone, quick announcement that we’ll be holding a workshop on “Decentralising the Internet with IPFS and Filecoin” alongside a major conference in the area of networking! See more info here: https://networking.ifip.org/2021/workshops/di2f-decentralising-the-internet-with-ipfs-and-filecoin and make sure to submit the great work that you’re doing. The workshop will accept several types of contributions, from r
<yiannisbot[m]>
papers to demos and competition ideas! For any question, feel free to reach out!
<seigemaster69[m]>
ipfs and filecoin are almost the same right ?
<Evanito[m]>
Filecoin is a storage incentive system built on top of IPFS by the same devs
<seigemaster69[m]>
they pay u to use their storage ?
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<Evanito[m]>
It's an ecosystem where people pay each other to use their storage
<alessandroetc[m]>
the miner requirements are pretty advanced though
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<seigemaster69[m]>
so u upload your storage server to the website and people access it and pay u for your space theyre using ?
<Evanito[m]>
Hahaha no it's more decentralized than that I think
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<seigemaster69[m]>
<Evanito[m] "Hahaha no it's more decentralize"> but in lay mans term its basically that
<Evanito[m]>
Oh in layman's terms yeah kinda. It's that you let other people use your storage server and they pay you for how much storage they use per month. More info is on their website and docs
<seigemaster69[m]>
they have another system for that tho i think
<seigemaster69[m]>
thisa runs on ipfs but basically does the same thing filecoin does ?
<Evanito[m]>
Peergos is on IPFS but is a different organization
<seigemaster69[m]>
or peergos is more like google cloud?
<Evanito[m]>
Yeah seems more like Google Cloud/Drive to me
<seigemaster69[m]>
the filecoin is more like aws?
<seigemaster69[m]>
or am i tripping lol
<seigemaster69[m]>
or theyre the same but different devs
<Evanito[m]>
They might me competitors haha
<Evanito[m]>
* They might be competitors haha
<seigemaster69[m]>
yeah cause it seems like the same thing
<seigemaster69[m]>
peergos seems to have a centralized server
<seigemaster69[m]>
while filecoin uses people hosted storage and pays them for it?
<seigemaster69[m]>
and is more decentralised?
<Evanito[m]>
Hmmm, I don't think peergos is that centralized. Most of their tools are usable through IPFS gateways and focuses on being usable for free for the average person
<seigemaster69[m]>
lol its trippy then cause they seem like the same thing
<Evanito[m]>
Filecoin, I think, is focused more on people who need to store a lot of data at a competitive price to google drive
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<Evanito[m]>
Yeah just to be clear it's different organizations doing each of these products
<Evanito[m]>
The IPFS team doesn't work on Peergos
<seigemaster69[m]>
yeah ipfs devs are involved with filecoin but peergos is diff
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<seigemaster69[m]>
so if u host a website on ipfs u dont need a domain ?
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<Evanito[m]>
Well need is a strong word haha
<seigemaster69[m]>
lmao im new here sorry for the dumb questions im trying to learn
<Evanito[m]>
If you are happy with telling people to go to your website at ipfs://Qmshavbxavcxuasivxusvayxvuisvyxwsuv then no you dont
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<Evanito[m]>
Otherwise you will still want one
<Evanito[m]>
* If you are happy with telling people to go to your website at ipns://Qmshavbxavcxuasivxusvayxvuisvyxwsuv then no you dont
<Discordian[m]>
You don't need one, for example I have http://portal.thedisco.zone works as ipns://portal.thedisco.zone or ipns://k51qzi5uqu5dlzjf07qr5sjvr8g1zisqfbhb4y5pg0iuo8herko7ah7731uehz
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah definitely recommend using a domain
<seigemaster69[m]>
cause of the weird name?
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah, it's just easier than using something like `ipns://k51qzi5uqu5dlzjf07qr5sjvr8g1zisqfbhb4y5pg0iuo8herko7ah7731uehz`, unless you'd rather it just be a hash.
<seigemaster69[m]>
so its good as a backup incase the dns censors the website ?
<Discordian[m]>
Well you'll always have the IPNS key, you still need it with dnslink
<seigemaster69[m]>
how does it get updates from the main website ?
<Discordian[m]>
When you update your directory, it gets a new CID, you publish that CID to your IPNS key, that key is what people will use to resolve your new CID.
<seigemaster69[m]>
but it seems like the whole idea
<Evanito[m]>
#unpaid_ad haha
<seigemaster69[m]>
pinata runs on ipfs lol
<Evanito[m]>
Correct! It all works together
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah pinata is a pinning service, you can use that to ensure your data is available on IPFS
<seigemaster69[m]>
so many other websites runs on their network and theyre making a competing website its weird
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<Evanito[m]>
Competition is weird?
<Evanito[m]>
Not in 🇺🇸 AMERICA 🇺🇸
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<seigemaster69[m]>
its not im just saying cause normally people wont wana host their secondary project competitors
<seigemaster69[m]>
so them doing that is kinda cool
<Evanito[m]>
Oh you mean the conflicting interests of the IPFS devs who want to promote Filecoin while also needing to support competitors?
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Evanito[m] "Oh you mean the conflicting inte"> yeah basically lol
<Discordian[m]>
I think as long as IPFS is getting used the devs are happy
<Discordian[m]>
That's the impression I get anyways
<Evanito[m]>
I see what you mean, it hasn't really come up much. In fact, the IPFS Team loves to promote services like Pinata.
<Evanito[m]>
They are going for different target markets and results in the network getting more use which is good for everyone yeah 🎉
<seigemaster69[m]>
so between pinata peego and filecoin which is better of as an online storage network?
<Evanito[m]>
HAHAHA I just found an Element easter egg when you type 🎉
<Evanito[m]>
What are you trying to store?
<Discordian[m]>
Haha I love that feature
<seigemaster69[m]>
a website
<seigemaster69[m]>
just asking in general
<Evanito[m]>
I use DNSLink+Pinata for my website. Free as long as my website stays under 1GB
<seigemaster69[m]>
website, general files online, documents , etc how store those using those services ?
<Evanito[m]>
imo it's the most IPFS-friendly way to do so
<Discordian[m]>
I think in the near future, like the next minor release, go-ipfs will support automatically updating pins with remote pinning services (like Pinata), so I'd vote Pinata here for a website.
<Evanito[m]>
I wouldn't use IPFS as a google drive replacement. Not until filecoin maybe
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Evanito[m] "I wouldn't use IPFS as a google "> cause people could access the content ?
<Evanito[m]>
But I would get a second opinion on that, I'm just one person
<Discordian[m]>
I'd use something encrypted at least
<Discordian[m]>
If the things are personal anyways
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "I'd use something encrypted at l"> so peergo?
<seigemaster69[m]>
> <@discordian:matrix.thedisco.zone> I'd use something encrypted at least
<seigemaster69[m]>
* so peergos?
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<Discordian[m]>
I'd have to look into Peergos more to really decide. Is it just a layer on IPFS that encrypts files too? So you'd still want to pin it if you want to ensure the data is available while your PC is offline.
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "I'd have to look into Peergos mo"> its a whole other website and different service on its own
<seigemaster69[m]>
it markets itself towards storing encrypted personal data
<Discordian[m]>
Says it's built on IPFS, I'm trying to figure out to what capacity.
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah marketing doesn't help me much.
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<Discordian[m]>
It's up to you, I wouldn't personally use it, but I'm picky when it comes to my software.
<seigemaster69[m]>
so back to pinata?
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<Discordian[m]>
Yeah, like do you need it to be encrypted? I'm not sure what solutions are available yet, I've been meaning to look into it. However most IPFS things should be able to be integrated with Pinata, that's really what makes it so useful.
<Discordian[m]>
I personally just host my own servers
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<seigemaster69[m]>
yeah i think thats what filecoin is for cause it says its very decentralised etc etc
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<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "I personally just host my own se"> im new to all this i wana do all those toop but im so overwhelmed and i have no guiding hands , learning everything is just making my head go boobinga lmao
<Discordian[m]>
FileCoin is supposed to be an incentive structure on top of IPFS, but I haven't heard of it being used in the wild, I don't really see it talked about.
<Discordian[m]>
Haha yeah it can be overwhelming constantly crash-coursing yourself
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "FileCoin is supposed to be an in"> the crypto is being talked about tho that was how i was introduced to it
<Discordian[m]>
I'd imagine crypto in FileCoin would mostly be to do with the incentive structures, not as much the files themselves. IPFS can function fine with encrypted files. Maybe I should include an option in ipfs-sync to do that...
<seigemaster69[m]>
i think this explains filecoin a little more
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<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "I'd imagine crypto in FileCoin w"> yeah the crypto is for the incentive
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<Discordian[m]>
If I'm understanding your need correctly, simply having a software that could automatically encrypt and add a directory, and update an IPNS address, would suit your needs?
<Discordian[m]>
* If I'm understanding your need correctly, simply having a software that could automatically encrypt and add a directory, and update an IPNS address, and pins, would suit your needs?
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<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "If I'm understanding your need c"> yessir i wana learn something like that
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<Discordian[m]>
Okay ipfs-sync is almost what you need ... I'll open an issue for this.
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<seigemaster69[m]>
thats great !
<seigemaster69[m]>
what ot her programm/software should i learn lol
<Discordian[m]>
No promises on a timeline, but it's on the list 🙂.
<Discordian[m]>
It's a short list and a cool feature though, so I hope to actually get to it ASAP tbh.
<Discordian[m]>
Honestly it might be worth it just trying out some of the `ipfs` CLI
<Discordian[m]>
Exploring how it all works might go a long way towards getting intuitive understanding
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<seigemaster69[m]>
anything cli based scares the freak out of me lol i wana learn commands and how to use the command line but man lol idk its overwhelming , only been on linux for 10 months , teaching myself about block chain apps , decentralization , etc etc all that good stuff
<seigemaster69[m]>
i only know sudo apt update , sudo apt auto remove and sudo apt purge
<seigemaster69[m]>
lmao
<Discordian[m]>
Haha makes sense 🙂. If you ever want to get started, even something as simple as `ipfs name resolve k51qzi5uqu5dlzjf07qr5sjvr8g1zisqfbhb4y5pg0iuo8herko7ah7731uehz` can go a ways to helping you see how it works.
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<Discordian[m]>
Also with the `ipfs` command, you can add `--help` at any point, to get a better understanding of how a command works.
<Discordian[m]>
Like `ipfs --help` or `ipfs pin --help`
<seigemaster69[m]>
<Discordian[m] "Like `ipfs --help` or `ipfs pin "> will try those
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<Evanito[m]>
Welcome to the community!
<seigemaster69[m]>
wana create a website and one day host it on ipfs and n host my own local storage
<seigemaster69[m]>
heard goog things about unstoppable domains but it cannot be found on the open web
<Evanito[m]>
Yeah haha I wouldn't jump to recommend them to most people
<seigemaster69[m]>
so epik is the best rn?
<Evanito[m]>
The best part about IPFS is all it takes to make a website is a .html file and `ipfs add`
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<seigemaster69[m]>
then id have to learn coding lol and java and all that
<seigemaster69[m]>
phew
<seigemaster69[m]>
hope my brain doesnt melt
<Evanito[m]>
If you are looking for a site generator (most blogs use one) I recommend hugo, it has lots of themes you can choose from
<Discordian[m]>
You could just learn Go instead of Java ;) (Disclaimer: Go's my favourite language)
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah, took a while to convince me a few years ago, but I fell in love after doing the tour. Concurrency is super easy. The focus is on readability and simplicity. Super fast compile times, easy to cross-compile. Static binaries are possible (no C). I love it.
<Discordian[m]>
It's great for writing servers, that's where it really shines.
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<seigemaster69[m]>
hnm nice so go is all i need for now
<seigemaster69[m]>
i can use it for programming aswell?
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<Discordian[m]>
Yeah it's a programming language, you can demo it in full online at https://tour.golang.org
<seigemaster69[m]>
great new goal , also freecodecamp vs codecademy which is the best frtee online sites to learn to code ?