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<naobsd> with discussion, of course
<naobsd> I'm not sure that I can follow "do not fork community(resource?place?)"
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<naobsd> because I still think there was no community like as linux-sunxi
<naobsd> I just want new place for new activity
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<naobsd> same name, same place. ah, it shouldn't be fork :)
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<naobsd> I changed my mind a little
<naobsd> I want to discuss thing like "how to organize linux-rockchip community"
<naobsd> but most people(include me) don't have so much interest about it
<naobsd> so, I'll just do(start) what I want to do when I can do
<naobsd> btw
<naobsd> I prefer linux-rockchip.org than linux-rockchip.info...
<naobsd> but probably it really looks like "fork" :(
<naobsd> comments are welcome, of course
<naobsd> I just said I don't wait forever :)
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<cristian_c> Hi
<cristian_c> I'd like to install a linux distro on a micro-sd card
<cristian_c> Where can I find a how-to/tutorial?
<cristian_c> Any ideas?
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<cristian_c> The server has disconnected me
<cristian_c> Has anyone answered to me?
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<viric> no
<cristian_c> ok
<hipboi> upgrade_tool sd can switch device from android adb mode to loader mode
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<karlp> mmind00: that "preserve important clocks" patch from you and mike turquette, does that not apply to rk3066 as well? I saw changes for 3188 and 3288?
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<mmind00> karlp: the clock trees of rk3188 and rk3066 (and most likely all soc from that series) only differ minimally
<mmind00> so if you look at drivers/clk/rockchip/clk-rk3188.c you'll see that it also contains the rk3066 specifics
<mmind00> and the critical clocks are defined for both in the common clock
<karlp> gack, the naming of things in those files is so confusing :|
<karlp> rk3188_pll_rates _only_ contains RK3066_PLL_RATE defines and so on :|
<karlp> I know it's uncool, but would a description in the top of the file indiccating applicability be somewhat useful?
<mmind00> karlp: yes, the naming is a little unfortunate ... everything should be rk3066 with the rk3188 being the addon, but I also don't think there will be a lot of changes except maybe adding more similar socs in the faaaar future if at all [I don't think anybody has access to the relevant TRMs], so I'm not to worried
<mmind00> karlp: so if it irks you to much, send a patch to the lists adding your desired comment ;-)
<karlp> no, I don't understand enough to know what the comments should be :)
<karlp> just trying to follow along with developments, and the names and changes don't give the indications of how broad they are :)
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<naobsd> is there any official kernel source for rk3288 evb from rockchip?
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<mmind00> naobsd: I guess only the rkchrome github repo
<naobsd> hmm
<naobsd> mmind00: I see, thanks!
<naobsd> hmm, rk u-boot for rk3188 seems to be working
<naobsd> miniall -> uboot.img -> kernel
<naobsd> everything on nand
<naobsd> oh well
<naobsd> rk uboot supports u-boot image format? what I tried is RK kernel(KRNL) image format
<naobsd> oh
<naobsd> upgrade_tool di doesn't understand uboot partition
<naobsd> no one use uboot on NAND as 2nd level loader? ;)
<naobsd> upgrade_tool wl 0x2000 uboot.img works (upgrade_tool in RK3288 SDK is required)
<ganbold_> naobsd: u-boot on radxa?
<naobsd> ganbold: yes
<ganbold_> naobsd: cool
<ganbold_> naobsd: does network boot work?
<naobsd> I cannot enter uboot prompt for now (probably I need to stop autoboot)
<ganbold_> naobsd: that way it would be even easier to test new kernels
<naobsd> and probably ethernet is not enabled
<ganbold_> if ethernet is enabled then that is perfect
<naobsd> btw, barebox supports (only) ethernet
<naobsd> I guess
<naobsd> rk u-boot doesn't support (u-boot generic) mmc
<naobsd> rk specific mmc (for boot from emmc/sd) should be supported but
<naobsd> and probably no usb...?
<naobsd> I guess: rk u-boot can be used as like as rk loader, it can load images from kernel/boot/recovery
<naobsd> that's all?
<ganbold_> ethernet support is preferable
<naobsd> it's u-boot
<naobsd> we can update/add driver
<naobsd> if we have time :)
<naobsd> btw, it's U-Boot 2014.01 based
<naobsd> u-boot for RK3288 (rkchrome) is newer than u-boot RK3188 (radxa)
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<naobsd> haha, it seems u-boot in firefly SDK is newer than rkchrome/uboot ;)
<viric> what is a firefly?
<viric> in this context
<ganbold_> rk3288 board
<naobsd> hmm, there are many diffs between rkchrome/kernel/master and firefly sdk kernel
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<naobsd> probably firefly's kernel is better
<naobsd> at least it's rbox sdk ;)
<naobsd> ah
<naobsd> with u-boot on RR
<naobsd> 3.0 based kernel doesn't boot
<naobsd> well
<naobsd> kernel starts, but it reset just after [ 0.441898] DDR Version 1.04 20130830
<naobsd> mainline based kernel can be booted, probably it doesn't touch DDR configuration
<naobsd> sleepy
<karlp> yay, minix has replied somewhat more positively about getting kernel source. might get a bit further soon
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<sonnyrao_> mmind00: around? Was wondering if you had opinions about suspend/resume on rk3288
<mmind00> sonnyrao_: only glanced at it shortly this morning ... I guess dianders comments are a good startingpoint
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<amstan_> hello
<sonnyrao_> sonnyrao_: k, I don't know what u-boot is doing, but we're still figuring it out for our firmware.... I think we'd prefer a solution where we don't involve the firmware in suspend/resume
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<sonnyrao_> oops!
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<sonnyrao_> mmind00: meant to send that to you.... but sometimes I talk to myself so I got confused :-P
<mmind00> :-D
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<sonnyrao_> mmind00: is S2R supported on rk3188 or rk3066 ?
<mmind00> sonnyrao_: in mainline? Currently there is no suspend whatsoever there
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<sonnyrao_> mmind00: yeah, mainline. Ok, so there's no current solution to use as a precedent
<mmind00> sonnyrao_: correct ... from what I gathered the suspend support is also more complex on the earlier socs ... the rk3288 seems to be able to switch of the ram on its own for example
<mmind00> s/of/off/
<sonnyrao_> mmind00: ah ok. So we're blazing new territory here, since we dislike putting things in firmware (harder to update), we may also take Julius's idea of using a firmware blob that is loaded from the filesystem. This is what we are currently doing for tegra based systems
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<mmind00> sonnyrao_: sounds nice ... especially as this blob could then simply be moved into the bootloader later if necessary
<mmind00> so we could essentially make both worlds happy :-)
<sonnyrao_> ok so you're okay with that approach.. cool
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