<servili007>
libv: Yep, was my binary drivers, works beautifully after a local recompile, thanks
<jlj>
is the edid hdmi code only in 3.4 or should it work in 3.0 too?
<jlj>
so that the card autodetects the resolution at start up
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<auxym>
bah. hours of messing around to figure that my problem seems to be buggy wifi drivers
<auxym>
do any of you know if "8192cu" are drivers provided by realtek or community-developed?
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<Turl>
jlj: should be on both
<Turl>
auxym: there's some drivers on mainline, and then there's the ones provided by realtek
<Turl>
I think 8192cu is the realtek one and rtl8192cu the mainline ones
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<auxym>
yeah thats what I figured. Guess I'm out of luck for bug reports in that case?
<Turl>
auxym: what bug are you experiencing?
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<auxym>
trying to connect to my apt block's wifi, which uses WPA2 with EAP-PEAP (mschapv2) auth. the exact same wpa_supplicant config that works on my suse box with ralink 2800 fails on my a10.
<auxym>
the a10 (with rtl8188cus) does work with regular wpa2-psk and about anything else, just eap-peap that I can't get working, no matter what tweaks i do to wpa_supplicant.conf
<auxym>
I'm about 99% percent sure its not a config issue but something with the driver (or h/w)
<auxym>
tried with manual wpa_supplicant config but also wicd and lxde's network manager, all the same result
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<Turl>
auxym: you could try with the other driver
<auxym>
yeah, i did try a bit yesterday, albeit with an older kernel (3.0 something) it was way worst, i couldnt get anything to connect. googling around, a lot of people are reporting that rtl8192cu has a lot of issues. hence with it seems 8192cu is the default
<auxym>
ill try getting the latest one from realtek and compiling it tomorrow, it was released nov '12.
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<oliv3r>
mornin'
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<rellla>
morning
<rellla>
Turl: ping
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<oliv3r>
mornin
<oliv3r>
turl is probably sleeping :)
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<rellla>
wiki spammers got more clever last days :p
<oliv3r>
again?
<oliv3r>
turl just changed the questions
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<hramrach__>
mornin
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<oliv3r>
hmm, taht's strange, my cubie1 doesn't have the boot magic csel value in dram controller
<oliv3r>
ssvb: ping
<ssvb>
oliv3r: pong
<oliv3r>
hi
<oliv3r>
so, what do I need to look for/at
<oliv3r>
though I think it's all solved now, isn't it?
<hramrach__>
so if somebody feels bored you can look at it and suggest how to do it sanely
<hramrach__>
basically I have 1 code which I #include with different header which makes it support two layouts
<hramrach__>
OO code in C for you
<hramrach__>
it's ugly but the alternative is to have the code twice which is also ugly
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<hramrach__>
but given that sun[45]i fits all four mbr copies into one page and sun[67]i requires get_part_sector dances to read just one mbr maybe it is worth splitting after all
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<hramrach__>
github upload 15k/s /o\
<mnemoc>
can someone make me a branch to merge into stage/3.4 ?
<mnemoc>
(same for 3.0 is also welcomed)
<mnemoc>
but can't review the ML atm
<hramrach__>
mnemoc: tha't a branch. want a pull request?
<hramrach__>
but look at the code befor you consider merging ;-)
<mnemoc>
hramrach__: not only nand. all the pending stuff
<mnemoc>
i can't review :(
<mnemoc>
just want to merge stuff to show it's still alive
<hramrach__>
it did not break the kernel for me ;-)
<mnemoc>
there is tons of hansg stuff pending
<mnemoc>
is someone can make a branch to merge on one pass *safe* stuff, it would be gratly appreciated
<mnemoc>
need to do tons of things before leaving .es this thrusday
<hramrach__>
heh, leaving on wed so not going to do much stuff either
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<hramrach__>
maybe leave it for later. it's summer holidays so people are offline a lot
<mnemoc>
great time for job hunting :-/
<Black_Horseman>
great time for lives
<hramrach__>
I don't think that's too much of an impediment. They have dedicated departements just for that in most companies ;-)
<mnemoc>
but if the guy who signs the contract is in the caribian, your are screwed
<hramrach__>
I am sure they have procedures for that. can't stop the company because somebody ins in the carribean
<mnemoc>
:)
<oliv3r>
bus-factor 1
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<oliv3r>
Turl: ping
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<Turl>
oliv3r: pong
<oliv3r>
hey
<oliv3r>
good morning :)
<oliv3r>
Turl: i would like to use your expert opinion on something
<Turl>
oliv3r: :p sure
<Turl>
rellla: wiki spam :( I changed the questions like 3 days ago
<Turl>
mripard: do you have any news from mdp on DMA?
<oliv3r>
oh dma
<oliv3r>
Turl: let me prepare a paste
<mripard>
Turl: nope, pinged him like last friday, he's still off the radar
<oliv3r>
Nelly kroes, our dutch hero-es, said 'there are no telecom borders in europe'
<oliv3r>
hi hno :)
<Turl>
oliv3r: today is jul 1st :p
<oliv3r>
Turl: every year, every jul 1st the rates will be dropped
<Turl>
oh cool :)
<oliv3r>
and in a few years, all roaming costs should be gone in the EU
<oliv3r>
Turl: ok it shortedned by over half the line, very good
<hno>
hi oliv3r
<oliv3r>
enjoying your vacation?
<Turl>
oliv3r: does it build? :P
<oliv3r>
erm
<oliv3r>
dunno yet :)
<oliv3r>
lets find out
<oliv3r>
there might be a space too much in your define
<wingrime>
Turl: may be disable wiki registation for while
<oliv3r>
not an option really
<oliv3r>
manually accepting new registrants maybe
<wingrime>
ssvb: why aw set a20 clocks as 920 Mhz?
<oliv3r>
Turl: yes, yes it does :)
<oliv3r>
wingrime: 912 I think is the 'stock' a20 clock
<oliv3r>
wingrime: did you get your c2 yet?
<wingrime>
oliv3r: nope
<oliv3r>
:((
<Turl>
oliv3r: heh great :) I'm surprised I didn't mess up the ##concat
<Turl>
oliv3r: neither have I :P
<oliv3r>
i thought it would have been DRAM_HPCR_##name :)
<oliv3r>
gawd i hate the 80 lines limit
<oliv3r>
linus is right, checkpatch should be far more flexible there
<ssvb>
wingrime: nobody knows for sure, but I guess that initially they want to play safe and avoid any potential problems
<Turl>
I think this new spammers are humans, and it's hard to separate humans from humans with a captcha :/
<ssvb>
wingrime: or maybe they have problems with their manufacturing process and the chips just can't work at high clock frequencies
<ssvb>
wingrime: the CPU in my CubieBoard2 can be overclocked to 1.15GHz, but is really unstable at 1.2GHz even with higher voltages
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<wingrime>
ssvb: I saw somewhere that current tech process ar 40nm
<wingrime>
for a20
<wingrime>
but RockChip's IC now use 28nm
<ssvb>
wingrime: btw, A10 in my Mele A2000 also can't be clocked higher than 1.15GHz, so A10 and A20 seem to be pretty similar with the regards to the CPU clock frequency limit
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<Turl>
mnemoc: what do you think? should we disable registrations?
<wingrime>
ssvb: it can be related curent RTL (litography standard block library)
<rellla>
Turl: so you can only separate them with manual account confirmation. but that maybe keeps someones from contributing...
<wingrime>
ssvb: AW may be can't use 28nm with current price policy
<oliv3r>
wingrime: i still think a20 is a 'cheap stop gap' while we wait for a40 :)
<Turl>
rellla: yeah :( sucks that spammers exist
<ssvb>
wingrime: it looks like Allwinner is losing this round to the competition, the others have Cortex-A9 SoCs with more cores and higher clock frequency
<Turl>
rellla: elinux has registrations disabled too
<oliv3r>
it's better to make us work harder in removing spam accounts, then it is to not let people contribute
<oliv3r>
contribution is top prio
<oliv3r>
ssvb: i kinda agree
<oliv3r>
ssvb: but even with a worse soc, they could have still made a killer, if they had their oss work in order (e.g. have support mainlined before silicon leaves the factory)
<Turl>
oliv3r: yeah but they sell premade device designs pretty much
<Turl>
it's not a need they have
<oliv3r>
true, they do buy a lot of IP
<wingrime>
ssvb: but AW have good market place with 'Cheap' SOC , I think that AW can't make better SoC generaly related TSMC prices for better tech-process
<Turl>
and judging by the code quality, looks like they're fans of 'it works? SHIPIT!'
<wingrime>
ssvb: SoC simply not fit cheap price policy with better techprocess
<wingrime>
Turl: china logic
<Turl>
wingrime: s/china/most companies'/
<wingrime>
Turl: it possible make manual conformation ?
<wingrime>
Turl: you simply can drop 'Crap' usernames
<rellla>
Turl, mnemoc, auto delete of new accounts with no edit within eg. a week would be a first step. and i would delete all accounts without contribution till now. i searched for that but i haven't found out to do that without direct manipulation of the db
<Turl>
mostly prop software companies
<Turl>
rellla: yeah but there's that :P how do you do it?
<Turl>
rellla: there's no concept of deleting accounts afaik
<Turl>
just blocking
<rellla>
db tables are very connected afaik :(
<Turl>
wingrime: they already have it enabled I think, you get a mail and need to click a link or sth
<wingrime>
Turl: I talking about That after email activaion, some one from linux-sunxi must aprove it
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<wingrime>
oliv3r: you are remeber where that tool for android
<wingrime>
oliv3r: for dram
<wingrime>
oliv3r: I just bye chep tablet for a10 testing
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<wingrime>
trul: do you remember where that tool
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<naobsd>
oliv3r: I got ramdom crash with your u-boot wip/a20
<naobsd>
random
<naobsd>
e.g. [ 31.127569] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address aaaaaaa8
<naobsd>
it seems stack is broken...
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<naobsd>
hno's u-boot with fix for mbus_clk_cfg is working and better performance w/o fix... so something may be wrong in another place :(
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<hramrach__>
hmm, rellla gone
<hramrach__>
currently my disp is broken and cannot play anything with vlc
<hramrach__>
my kernel was too experimental after all it seems
<hramrach__>
but not sure what I did to break disp
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<hramrach__>
maybe it was broken by one of the recent merges. need to investigate a bit more. I am quite sure the part with tracking disp layers stil worked since I used it to track layers
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<auxym>
i just made a bootable sd card with bsp/hwpack. does it install kernel-headers to the rootfs? if not can I get them somehow?
<auxym>
i need to compile a module
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<mnemoc>
auxym: clone the tree and build your own custom kernel
<mnemoc>
those hwpacks include exclusively the defconfig
<auxym>
ok... so I need to edit the kernel config so it produces headers when compiling?
<auxym>
never compiled a kernel before
<Turl>
auxym: do you need an out of tree module?
<mnemoc>
/porc/config.gz is usually the simplest starting point
<Turl>
mnemoc: don't we have a make linux-config?
<mnemoc>
yes
<Turl>
you can use that to enable the module if it is in-tree
<mnemoc>
yes
<Turl>
but if you need sth external you'll need the headers
<auxym>
yeah. as we talked ysterday im going to try the latest driver from realtiek for the wifi, so I need to compile it from source i downloaded from realtek's site
<mnemoc>
but to be honest, i don't speak spanish either....
<mnemoc>
just type :|
<oliv3r>
rellla: i was born in austria, i'm half austrian :) left when i was 10 though
<rellla>
your last name sounds austrian ;)
<Turl>
mnemoc: how come you don't speak spanish?
<mnemoc>
i've spoken more english in the last decade than spanish even when living in spanish speaking countries 33 of my 35 years
<mnemoc>
Turl: social problems
<oliv3r>
no hables espagnol?
<Turl>
the same probably holds true for me wrt writing
<oliv3r>
move to s. korea, work for samsung
<mnemoc>
sure i can, if i know the person in front of me and there are les than 4 people total
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<Turl>
oliv3r: 8/10 nice try :P
<oliv3r>
8/10?
<mnemoc>
but in english it tends to be work-related, and that's simpler to deal with
<Turl>
oliv3r: we grade stuff on a 1-10 scale, with 10 being excellent
<oliv3r>
oh
<oliv3r>
hah
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<oliv3r>
parles vous francais
<auxym>
oui :)
<oliv3r>
ich bin ein berliner!
<mnemoc>
love that city
<Turl>
oliv3r: I'm a es-en guy, I need to learn cn and then I'd have covered the majority of the world's population :P
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<oliv3r>
LOL
<oliv3r>
yeah i wanna learn cn
<auxym>
sounds hard as hell though
<Turl>
I don't :P I can hardly distinguish the characters
<mnemoc>
it's easier to teach chinese to speak english than an argentinian to speak anything.....
<Turl>
mnemoc: lol
<mnemoc>
like with spaniards
<mnemoc>
they just can't
<mnemoc>
.es people can't even pronnounce two consonants together in spanish words
<mnemoc>
and god save us from spaniards trying to talk in english
<Turl>
mnemoc: no creo :P
<mnemoc>
septiembre -> se-tiembre
<Turl>
mnemoc: I had a english teacher from spain once :D
<mnemoc>
sexo -> seso
<mnemoc>
victoria (my daughter) -> vi-toria
<mnemoc>
madrid -> madri'
<mnemoc>
they can't even speak their own language
<Turl>
I hate 'setiembre', but RAE says it's ok
<mnemoc>
sure it's "ok"
<mnemoc>
they can't bad spain's spanish
<mnemoc>
ban
<Turl>
on the other hand, all of those are pretty normalized
<mnemoc>
even with football teams -> atletico -> a-letico
<mnemoc>
seso? aletico? that's not valid anywhere
<mnemoc>
and not even jouranlists can pronounce them
<Turl>
mnemoc: well, that must be Only in Spain (c)
<Turl>
seso over here is what you have inside your head :p
<mnemoc>
yes, .es problem. the rest of the spanish speaking counties only have troubles with the s/z and b/v
<Turl>
that's not a problem, that's a solution ;)
<Turl>
y/ll
<mnemoc>
:p
<mnemoc>
Turl: y/ll is written. s/z and b/v sound differently
<Turl>
on some places of spain (most iirc) b/v is written too
<Turl>
I'll give you s/z :P
<mnemoc>
the rule is c sounds like k or z.
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<mnemoc>
in the south of spain they make s sound like z
<mnemoc>
in latin maerican and canaria, z sounds like s
<mnemoc>
try to survive 10 minutes talking with someone from cadiz and you'll want to suicide
<Turl>
haha
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<mnemoc>
the "german" sch sound is in half of the words
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<mnemoc>
and all 's' sounds like an strongly marked z
<Turl>
sch sounds like y?
<mnemoc>
think in chile pronounces as ssshile
<oliv3r>
schoen stoppen
<mnemoc>
pronounced*
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<Turl>
like the y sound in "lluvia" then
<mnemoc>
Turl: yes, like the argentinian lluvia
<mnemoc>
while everyone else lluvia starts like the english "you"
<Turl>
well, that sound is every ll/y on the words
<Turl>
we should just write them with y, yuvia, yamada, yoyo, yo, yavero :P
<mnemoc>
or teach argentians to pronounce :p
<Turl>
that'd create a tear in space-time that would eat us all
<mnemoc>
:)
<Turl>
we could teach .es people "simplified spanish" too :P
<mnemoc>
each province has an strongly differenciated accent
<mnemoc>
and in my region in particular, the "local" language was standarized very short ago
<mnemoc>
so galician speaking children don't understand theyr grandfathers or the other way around
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<mnemoc>
kind of shameful
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<Turl>
chilean teens need some spanish classes too, you can hardly understand what they write when there's a "wn", "wea" and similar words mixed with contractions, flogger speech and such :p
<mnemoc>
.cl has a VERY poor vocabulary. like 500 words total
<Turl>
mnemoc: standarized as making its teaching compulsory?
<mnemoc>
the rest, wildcards
<mnemoc>
Turl: inventing dictionaries and grammar standarizing a language that used to defer from town to town
<Turl>
that's a major fail on their part
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<mnemoc>
Turl: in .cl over half of the 18yo children end public education without been capable to read
<mnemoc>
and that is very clear when they try to express themselves spoken
<Turl>
I know they were pushing for asturiano too (on asturias obviously)
<Turl>
mnemoc: ouch
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<mnemoc>
asturia's language doesn't have legal priviledges. only basque, galicia and catala/valencian
<mnemoc>
valencia people keeps fighting to be a real language and not a dialect, but they are mostly ignored :p
<Turl>
iirc all the software used in public administration must be translated to asturianu, and stuff like that
<Turl>
their OS translating community is pretty active
<mnemoc>
Turl: nationalism, but no legal support
<mnemoc>
bable (asturian) is not protected/supported
<mnemoc>
they were not considered to have enough "own history" to deserve cultural protection :p
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<oliv3r>
mnemoc: so what is your next move thursday, randomly go to germany and apply for jobs?
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<mnemoc>
oliv3r: i'll leach some days in the house of a friend and try to apply as C ape to his company (in postdam or luneburg/hamburg) and if fails, keep searching in the berlin area
<mnemoc>
and finish a webshop project in the meantime
<mnemoc>
but aiming at working as c/linux ape with corworker with which to be able to talk while taking a coffee
<mnemoc>
7y fully remote is more than enough to make anyone nuts
<mnemoc>
if berlin doesn't work.... probably hannover next
<mnemoc>
at least that's the current plan
<hramrach__>
you speak german?
<mnemoc>
i understand and sort of read it
<mnemoc>
can't talk
<mnemoc>
so i;m limited to english speaking envs
<hramrach__>
if you stay there you will learn fast :)
<mnemoc>
i survived a year in 2006... hope i'll recover at least a very basic level soon enough
<Turl>
do you need special visas or stuff to work on another eu country?
<oliv3r>
germany isn't very english friendly
<mnemoc>
Turl: I'm .it
<oliv3r>
though I don't know where linux C apes can work in NL
<oliv3r>
red hat :)
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: it's fdifferent to apply to work on a supermarket than to apply to code network apps in c
<mnemoc>
i'll obviusly won';t fake a CV in germna. it will be in english (as always)
<mnemoc>
if they accept a CV and presentation letter in english, they are willing to accept english speaking engs
<mnemoc>
if not, they won';t reply
<hramrach__>
hehe, german have their own computer parts
<hramrach__>
Plattenspeicher
<oliv3r>
lol
<oliv3r>
what i ment is, that in germany, they prefer german
<oliv3r>
just like in france, they prefer french :)
<oliv3r>
exceptions apply of course
<mnemoc>
sure. and need to learn german if i plan to work there
<oliv3r>
in NL, if your an engineer, english isn't weird
<mnemoc>
isn;t dutch like tisk? that not even yourself understand eachouther?
<mnemoc>
err
<mnemoc>
dansk
<oliv3r>
lol
<oliv3r>
yes we understand eachother fine
<mnemoc>
:)
<Turl>
mnemoc: you got a referal from the inside? :)
* rellla
feels linux-sunxi transforms to "find the best language" channel ;)
<hramrach__>
chinese :)
<mnemoc>
for my initial try (securepoint.de), yes
<mnemoc>
chinese doesn't exist :p
<hramrach__>
it does to a point. you just need to specify which chinese you mean ;-)
<oliv3r>
most importantly
<oliv3r>
how much time and WHEN can you work on sunxi agian :)
<Turl>
mandarin is #1 :P
<hramrach__>
ttly
<Turl>
but only useful in .cn :P
<hramrach__>
not that I know any word of any chinese :p
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: i have a 3M 40h/w web project to do while searching for a job. the rest is for interviews, and sunxi
<mnemoc>
once getting a job. sunxi will take all not-work time.... as i'm moving alone with zero interest in starting anything
<mnemoc>
just worki with humans, eat and send money back to spain
<mnemoc>
and got my a20 and a10s olinuxinos today :)
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<mnemoc>
unfortunatelly lost the cb2..... shipped to my former employer
<mnemoc>
but the cubietruck looks nicer ;-)
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: c2?
<oliv3r>
ah
<oliv3r>
and former employer won't get it to you?
<mnemoc>
cubieboard+a20
<mnemoc>
no. he hates me
<oliv3r>
yeah i ment 'what about cb2
<oliv3r>
why, really why
<oliv3r>
well a20 olinuxino is better :p
<hramrach__>
some people are just like that :S
<oliv3r>
more pins
<oliv3r>
'you get sick and cost me lots of money'
<mnemoc>
because i was on the hospital nad he lost money due to his beloved bus factor = 1 rule
<oliv3r>
fu
<oliv3r>
if it makes you feel happy
<oliv3r>
it'll cost him 10x that to get his next bf=1
<mnemoc>
i was sort of happy to send him the ssh keys for him to make his own backups and learn to build his products instead of "training" him
<mnemoc>
after years begging to increase the bus fastor
<hramrach__>
bus factor?
<oliv3r>
bf
<mnemoc>
hramrach__: how many people need to be hit by a truck to kill your project
<oliv3r>
how many people can be hit by a bus
<oliv3r>
that :p
<mnemoc>
hramrach__: he sees it as company protection. devs CANT talk to each other
<mnemoc>
or they'll steal his customers
<hramrach__>
funny variable
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: what u-boot branch do I need to get uart -> uSD output
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: that's not a branch thing, it's a board choice
<mnemoc>
with different -D in boards.cfg
<hramrach__>
oh, well
<hramrach__>
good night
<mnemoc>
good night
<hramrach__>
and good luck with job hunting
<mnemoc>
i'll still pretty pissed off with him. probably next week will write some tutorials for my former boss
<mnemoc>
but not a prio this week
<oliv3r>
why?
<oliv3r>
he hates you
<mnemoc>
yes, but he fed me for 7y
<oliv3r>
if he sends you the cubie 2.0; you write his shit
<mnemoc>
true
<oliv3r>
:)
<oliv3r>
a pure principle thing
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: ok let me rephrase, how do I get a nand-capable u-boot that prints via uSD-uart
<mnemoc>
ah, nand-capable u-boot is another story
<mnemoc>
don't don;t about current dev. but you used to need the lichee-dev branch and patch some #defines
<mnemoc>
hramrach, anyhow... at least for me german is FAR easier than french .... mostly due to speed
<mnemoc>
and intention of comunicating
<oliv3r>
:)
<oliv3r>
hramrach went to bed! :p
<oliv3r>
do we have wiki page of nand-capable u-boot
<oliv3r>
or better, precompiled bin?
<oliv3r>
i want to start debugging my tablet with 3.4