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<popolon>
libv, if that's about me, you can also speak to me about eventual errors or miss
<popolon>
that's more productive than making under the hood unproductive battles, and probably with some erroneous miss (as you made by citing me with history unrelated to reality)
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<rellla>
libv: i'm basically too good-hearted to go the diplomatic way first - i'll work on my hardness. and hey, i deleted some pages anyway;)
<wens>
Turl: I suppose the traces are already there
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<Rose28357>
I wonder if ther is a wiki page that describes to usedfull repositories to test mainline kernel. for example its not easy to find the proper uBoot branch for 3.15. Should´nt we extend that to the maeinline effort page ?
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<Rose28357>
sorry a lot of typos : there is a wiki page that describes the usefull
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<mnemoc>
Rose28357: it all depends what you want to test
<mnemoc>
Rose28357: sunxi-next is *accepted* stuff. sunxi-devel is *submitted* stuff and new experiemtnal drivers. sunxi-3.14 is 3.14 + sunxi stuff backported from master.
<Rose28357>
i know that becaus i read the irc log. but where are these links documented/explained in sunxi wiki to set up early testers ? Maybe i miss a feature io git (which i do not understand) to find the propper repro.
<mnemoc>
it probably should just go into the Linux page
<mnemoc>
explaining the current difference between the legacy and the mainline branches
<mnemoc>
Rose28357: please reorganize the content without duplicating, and with proper interlinking
<ZetaNeta>
It does look real awesome for its price
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<ZetaNeta>
And whats the deal with A33?
<ZetaNeta>
And A80?
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<ZetaNeta>
Will AW ever release those?
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<mnemoc>
ZetaNeta: in the last charbax interview they said next month for selected customers
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<ZetaNeta>
mnemoc, I am already aware that some John Does will receive their A80... But when will we be seing the A80 olinuxino/cubie?
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<mnemoc>
ZetaNeta: that you should ask Tsvetan and Benn
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<ZetaNeta>
This is just evil to keep it so long...
<mnemoc>
that's allwinner's choice. they will sell to whom they decide, when they decide. as every other SoC manufacturer does
<mnemoc>
TI, QC and samsung are even worse limiting the capabilities to buy they newer chips
<ZetaNeta>
TI doesnt look so evil...
<Wizzup>
yeah TI seems okayish? at least according to neo900 ppl
<mnemoc>
in AW's case it's probably that the A80 and A33 are just not ready for mass production
<ZetaNeta>
Same with OP ppl
<mnemoc>
ZetaNeta: look at the time since the first omap4 was sold, and until it was freely buyable. and then with omap5
<ZetaNeta>
Is anyone familar with marrii?
<ZetaNeta>
mnemoc, Doesnt look that bad. I agree that AW is the best, but being the best of em all, doesnt make it good :)
<mnemoc>
iirc olimex is still not allowed to buy omap4 chips, and it's been out (for selected customers) for years
<mnemoc>
A80 and A33 are not available to anyone yet
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<f1c100>
good news, I justed dumped 32k of BROM from the f1c100 ;-)
<ZetaNeta>
mnemoc, When did OP turned into a "selected customer"?
<mnemoc>
i don't know the exact term but TI keeps two catalogs. one for selected few and one for everyone else
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<mnemoc>
in aw, rk and mt cases, when the ICs are ready, they sell them to anyone without restrictions
<ZetaNeta>
mnemoc, A serious company like Olimex is not a SC, and a group of m*strubating monkeys like OP are?
<popolon>
hi
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<mnemoc>
ZetaNeta: maybe because olimex does OSHW? and so they can't sign awful NDAs?
<mnemoc>
qualcomm even wants to see your business plan before thinking in allowing you to sign the NDA to see the f* specs of the chips
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<ZetaNeta>
Is A31 "MUCH" more powerful than A20 for desktop?
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<ZetaNeta>
Because i have a choice of either taking something available on A20, or to shake people around about getting a similar and more expencive A31
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<popolon>
ZetaNeta, A31/A33 are more powerfull (4 Cortex A7 CPU instead of 2), and A80 much more (4 cortex-a7 + 4 cortex a15)
<ZetaNeta>
popolon, Just asking if anyone used ARM for "real, everyday desktop"
<popolon>
depending of what you call every day desktop
<popolon>
for HTML desktop, that's fine
<ZetaNeta>
"Being a gentoo user" sounds good
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<ZetaNeta>
For me its: +750 tabs firefox, and tmux with +10 tabs with atleast one of them being busy
<popolon>
for 3d application like blender, that's a little soon, there are was not opengl driver until recently on arm, only opengl ES
<popolon>
libre office, with light usage seems to work fine
<ZetaNeta>
Well... can it handle LXDE+Compiz Fusion+AWM+Conky
<ZetaNeta>
?
<popolon>
ZetaNeta, look at video on youtube about desktop on RK3088, RK3188 or cubieboard to have an idea with last year low end cpu
<popolon>
lxde+compiz, yes
<ZetaNeta>
Nice
<popolon>
don't know what are is AWM & conky
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<ZetaNeta>
Well.... i think i just need to try hard and get a A31 to be safe
<popolon>
avant window Navigator
<ZetaNeta>
yes
<popolon>
ZetaNeta, well I'm not this works fine with A31
<popolon>
should be better with A33
<popolon>
A31 is powerVR driver
<ZetaNeta>
A33 is out?
<popolon>
I'm not sure there is powervr driver for linux, and don't know how it will behave with libhybris