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<Froolap> I'm asking you to tell me how to make it work. show me where there's a step by step and I'll gladly do it, I'll even research terms I don't know.
<libv> or use the cubieboard wiki
<libv> Froolap: MANUAL BUILD HOWTO.
<libv> for the 4th time.
<libv> Froolap: are you doing this on purpose?
<Froolap> Manual build how2 first thing it does is go off about toolchain. Ok, which distro should I install so I can get the toolchain to work?
<libv> why don't you read the toolchain page then?
<mrnuke> Froolap: any self-respecting distro provides arm cross-compilers nowadays.
<libv> Froolap: do you think that there should be a single complete page with all the individual steps, just for you?
<libv> no choice, no options?
<Froolap> This isn't about just for me.....
<mrnuke> Froolap: how old are you?
<Froolap> 53
<Froolap> I've been running linux since 98.
<libv> read.
<libv> read.
<libv> read.
<mrnuke> so you know hot to build a kernel?
<Froolap> I built a kernel once about 20 years ago, it was too large to boot.
<libv> mrnuke: but he does not want to
<libv> haha
<libv> Froolap: in 94?
<mrnuke> libv: LOL
<libv> so you waited 4 years, and then it magically booted?
<libv> Froolap: read, and pick a toolchain that works for you
<libv> and i really do suggest that if you keep on complaining, that you should go get other hardware, and try to build your own for that
<libv> and then you can come crawling back.
<mrnuke> Froolap: the only two steps the assciinema I sent you doesn't have is the "git clone" and "make sunxi_defconfig". Everything else, including the cross-compiler flavor is shown
<Froolap> It appears that there are no answers here even to straight forward questions.
<mrnuke> Froolap: ^^
<libv> Froolap: choice is a two-edged sword.
<libv> deal with it
<Froolap> I can get fedora21 for arm to install and boot, it will even connect to my router..... what I don't know is how to get video on it from there.
* mrnuke wants to see this
<libv> you are actually using the cubieboard2, right?
<Froolap> NO, I'm using the bananapi
<libv> of course you are.
<Froolap> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/Images/armhfp/ has a script to install the uboot for the bananapi....
<libv> Froolap: and what fex did you use?
<Froolap> didn't use any fex, I just downloaded the image file that it in the fedora-arm wiki and downloaded the script that copies the image over to the sd. works like magic....
<Froolap> but without any video it doesn't do much good.
<libv> which image file from where exactly?
<Froolap> I can ping the box so I know it booted, I can see the ip on my router, I just can't ssh into it.
<libv> you of course did not get a serial adapter.
<libv> you thought you'd save some money on that too
<Froolap> Ok, forgive my cut and paste of three links.... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F21/Installation
<Froolap> nope, sorry, that was the script, the image was at http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/Images/armhfp/
<libv> Froolap: did you read that thing here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F21/Installation#For_the_Banana_Pi_.28Allwinner_A20.29
<libv> that line after "WARNING"
<libv> in that amber box
<Froolap> Yes, I did.
<libv> ok.
<libv> just log in over serial then and use like yum or whatnot to install an sshd
<Froolap> That doesn't mean that it's impossible to ever get video working, just that it won't work out of the box.
<libv> you can fix all that over serial.
<libv> or ssh, once you have that installed.
<Froolap> sshd is on by default, but.... no idea what the default root password might be.
<Froolap> and using the --norootpassword well. what do ya do from there to log in?
<Froolap> But hey, that's not your project, so I won't ask you for help with that.... I'll just ask for help with your project.
<libv> so how is installing the mali binaries going to help you with your lack of a root password?
<Froolap> I reformatted that card and was trying to install from your wiki. so far I haven't been able to figure out how to make that work....
<Froolap> I also don't actually KNOW that I'll have video working when done.
<Froolap> I have asked, but not gotten any real answer....
<libv> define video
<Froolap> plug the hdmi cable into the bananapi and into my tv.
<libv> you just haven't gotten an answer that solves all your problems with a magic single line cut-n-paste
<libv> because you will never get that
<Froolap> No, I haven't gotten a Yes it works or a no it doesn't.
<Froolap> But I have gotten a lot of read the wiki.... which leaves me wondering the question I was asked earlier.... which corner of the wiki has that answer?
<libv> Froolap: yes, it can be made to work
<Froolap> Good.
<libv> whether you can ever manage to work is a completely different question
<libv> +make it
<libv> Froolap: edit the fex file and modprobe the right modules
<libv> Froolap: that's the magic phrase
<libv> now go on a quest to execute that magic phrase.
<libv> good luck.
<Froolap> Ok..... Where do the modules come from? where's the source code or functional binaries?
<libv> Froolap: wherever you got it from
<Froolap> got what from?
<libv> i don't know, you were talking about fedora rootfses and hwpacks and whatnot
<libv> you don't even seem to know what a fex file is or where yours was supposed to come from
<libv> and when told to work through the manual build howto, you just throw up your arms and state that it is too much work for a 53y old who has been using linux for 16ys but never built a kernel
<Froolap> I got the cubbieboard_hwpack.tar from links on your wiki..... But I don't know if those will be compatable with the fedora21 since the image that you guys seem to have is fedora20 based....
<Froolap> It appears from installing fedora21 that the uboot for the cubbieboard is compatable with the banana.
<libv> only by pure luck, or by nasty marketing from the leeches that made bananapi
<Froolap> They both seem to be A20...... other than that I don't know.
<libv> oh, yes, both are the same SoC, everything else should compatable
<libv> first time on arm, is it?
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<Froolap> Yes, this is my first time..... and from what I understand the uboot just points to where to find the kernel.
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<libv> Froolap: have you figured out how this "fex" thing people keen on mentioning fits into things?
<libv> s/keen/keep/
<Froolap> no, I have not, I did read the wiki and it's talking about registers...... but where it goes, what it does when and how I don't know. I have seen nothing that installs it
<Froolap> I have no idea as to at what point of the build process that it needs to be installed. I have asked
<libv> Froolap: how often do you need to be slapped around with "manual build howto" before you actually give in and work through it?
<Froolap> I have tried. I ask questions when I get stuck and you turn it around like I'm the bad guy for not reading what I just got done asking about.
<libv> Froolap: you refused to traverse the first link
<libv> and read
<libv> and make an informed decision
<libv> and install
<libv> and then move on to the next bit.
<Froolap> I was told 4 hours ago to use one of the prebuilt images, I came here and asked when I got stuck......
<libv> you know... problem solving with the help of a wiki or howto
<Froolap> You know, people have the wonderful ability to be able to rephrase things what a wiki lacks.
<libv> Froolap: ok, so you just want any solution where you do not have to put thought into things?
<libv> Froolap: /join #bananapi
<Froolap> I did. There's nothing there.
<libv> Froolap: but there's this big bananapi community out there
<Froolap> For a month there were 3 clients that never spoke.
<libv> Froolap: did you read the topic in there?
<Froolap> Did you read the question I posted in here, or do you just like to ask what others read and feel that entitles you to never answer?
<libv> which question, the one you asked almost an hour ago?
<Froolap> That one will do as well.
<Froolap> I'm not picky
<libv> you will get a uImage in arch/arm/boot once you build a kernel
<libv> 00:45 < libv> build a kernel.
<libv> 57 minutes ago
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<Froolap> thanks, I'll try that one tomorrow.
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<hramrach_> bbrezillon,wens: http://sprunge.us/GeFF
<hramrach_> not sure what if anything I should be able to do from here
<hramrach_> just copied the cb2 config to cb1 so it fails equally
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<mrnuke> hramrach_: isn't that because hardwqare randomizer is not supported yet, so MLC won't work?
<hramrach_> Froolap: I have a cubieboard so I could give you images that I tested as working if you are not picky. But I don't have a bananapi so you will need to do some integration yourself. Seems bananapi somehow generates more problems than other boards and fewer people around here have one
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<hramrach_> mrnuke: it's presumably supported by one of the previous patches
<mrnuke> hramrach_: I got as far as you did by applying bbrezillon's v7 patches
<hramrach_> yes, that's what I have
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<mrnuke> Oh the flelucking systemd. WHat other new invention did they come up with to make it not work again....
<mrnuke> needs CONFIG_FHANDLE. geesh, that's four hours wasted
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<hramrach_> in Debian the package helpfully tests your kernel for required features
<mrnuke> I thought debian didn't use systemd
<hramrach_> but I tried upstart and it does not work for me on mainline :/
<hramrach_> current debian entering freeze/beta/whatever does
<hramrach_> so back to sysvinit
<mrnuke> at least you're not stuck with systemd bloatware
<hramrach_> proven, reliable and slow
<mrnuke> my cubie used to boot pretty fast with custom kernel and older systemd. Now with this new systemd... nevermind
<hramrach_> the systems where upstart works boot in seconds
<hramrach_> in Debian you can pick any of systemd/upstart/sysvinit
<hramrach_> I expect to see crowds of people with suspicious holes in their feet
<hramrach_> especially since systemd is default and was practically uninstallable in the previous release
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<mrnuke> I heard systemd is packaging too much crap, like a http server
<mrnuke> and pulls in too many dependencies
<hramrach_> so does upstart
<mrnuke> so they're both bloatware then
<hramrach_> sysvinit is nice and clean but ancient and outdated
<hramrach_> with upstart the problem is plymouth integration which does not work but is not optional in Debian
<Wizzup> openrc is nice :)
<Wizzup> you should check it out
<hramrach_> besides failing mysteriously
<hramrach_> but I guess every init can fail mysteriously in some corner case. If you use it enough you will find it. Just like C compilers
<Wizzup> as long as the design is sane and clean
<wens> hramrach_: i'm not using nand atm
<hramrach_> seems you wrote some of the patches so might have some idea what the driver is about
<hramrach_> ok, only some of the very early patches only tangentially related to nand
<hramrach_> sorry, nvm
<wens> i don't remember doing any nand stuff :)
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<Turl> wens: haha, you made my day with your watchdog code review :)
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<wens> Turl: :p
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<plaes> ooh.. do we have a spammer in the wiki?
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<libv> plaes: quite sofisticated too
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<Froolap> blink
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<angrybb> is there some prebuild xbmc for a10 for download?
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<diego71> does anybody know the meaning of this error -> http://paste.debian.net/136460/
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<stulluk> Hi everyone, are there any news about cedar encoding recently? Can we encode camera captures by Cedar ?
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