mnemoc changed the topic of #linux-sunxi to: Allwinner/sunxi development discussion - did you try looking at our wiki? https://linux-sunxi.org - Don't ask to ask. Just ask and wait! - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/ - Logs at http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi
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<wens> sigh... still no sign of progress on the axp20x series
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<lukas2511> sigh... still no sign of progress on the musb gadget stuff
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<wens> ooh... so allwinner says the temperature sensor in A10/A13/A20 is highly inaccurate, they gave up on debugging it and are not using it lol
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<ssvb> wens: how much inaccurate is it?
<wens> ssvb: they didn't say
<wens> but seeing they gave up on it.... i'd say we're on our own :(
<ssvb> we probably don't need really high accuracy for emergency thermal throttling
<ssvb> do they support temperature sensor in the SDK kernels?
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<wens> oliv3r: hope you can get back to calibrating it!
<wens> ssvb: only A31
<ssvb> so they got it right in A31, but have problems with A10/A13/A20?
<wens> yes
<ssvb> does Allwinner say anything about the safe temperature limit?
<ssvb> they have the 'ambient' temperature limit in the datasheet, but what does it really mean?
<ssvb> is it the temperature of the environment outside the cpu/board? in this case the critical cpu temperature should be higher than that
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<wens> ssvb: i'm just using that value for now
<wens> and i think i put the wrong (slightly higher) values for sun7i :|
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<beboom> does anyone here knows how to use bus pirate + sd breakout board to find a serial console via SD Slot on a MK802 (a10s) ?
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<beboom> i knowi know that i need a special script.bin and a specially tailored u-boot to do that...
<beboom> My problem now is to make this specific u-boot version... Anyone can help me ?
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<vector80> #cedar
<vector80> oh sorry
<oliv3r> beboom: check the wiki; should be described there
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<oliv3r> ssvb: they removed the code from the SDK kernels (commented it)
<oliv3r> wens: i can run a whole lot of boards using a thermocouple and compare the values from the internal diode
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<oliv3r> i have 20 lime1 A20 boards
<oliv3r> not many a10 boards however; just 3 or 4 max.
<wens> oh hey look, they updated docs for a20, and released docs for a33
<oliv3r> it is still on the schedule yeah
<oliv3r> wens: when?!
<wens> 9 hours ago
<oliv3r> is there something as a pdf-diff
<oliv3r> wens: how do you know? are they hosting their own docs?
<oliv3r> if you have urls i can put them on the dl.linux-sunxi site
<oliv3r> i missed that they have a git :)
<oliv3r> usermanual for the A33; nice!
<wens> added sd/mmc and owa registers
<wens> whats owa...
<wens> oh, one wire audio interface
<oliv3r> uploaded, just gotta rename them
<oliv3r> owa? 1w audio?
<wens> spdif compatible
<plaes> wens: where did you see the owa?
<beboom> oliv3r, Thank you for your reply
<beboom> oliv3r, I've checked the wiki and found some good information there on how to find the correct pins, which tools I will need and so on.. But I haven't found how to compile the u-boot to use this hack (to use the uSD slot as an UART, since in the MK802+ the UART port is not available in the PCB)... Do you know where in the wiki I can find this information ?
<wens> plaes: a20 user manual, latest version on github
<plaes> ahh.. A20
<wens> it's the last chapter
<plaes> ok, found :)
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<rellla> oliv3r: congrats to your packt book :p
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<wens> mripard: could i submit sun8i smp code? a23 doesn't have security extensions or virtualization extensions, psci seems a bit needless :|
<mripard> it doesn't have a cortex-a7 ?
<wens> it does
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<mripard> if so, then it has the virtualization and security extensions
<wens> it has virtualization (i missed that)
<wens> but not security extensions
<wens> IIRC security extensions are optional
<mripard> ARM disagrees on their webpage :)
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<mripard> and I don't see how virtualization without security would make sense
<wens> neither do i, but allwinner's doc has no mention of it, and no secure sram either :(
<mripard> the secure SRAM is not an issue
<mripard> you can use a regular one, or even plain RAM
<wens> bbl
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<oliv3r> all buy my book :D
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<rellla> oliv3r: but i will not read the paperback :p
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<oliv3r> rellla: but i need money ;)
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<oliv3r> does anybody know the value of the internal pull-up/down resistors
<oliv3r> and can anybody confirm that i2c-3 on PI0, PI1 actually works?
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<rellla> oliv3r: bought it, because i know that you need money, but the ebook was delivered faster :p
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<oliv3r> lol :)
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<oliv3r> don't you get the ebook for free when you buy the book?
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<rellla> yes, but internet is faster than dhl
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<oliv3r> :p
<oliv3r> good, buy more paperback all of you!
<lukas2511> oliv3r: which book?
<oliv3r> i should set it as topic :p
<lukas2511> not really interesting to me, but i guess i'll recommend it to other people
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<f15h> Is anybody aware of stability Issues of the Allwinner A10 regarding the MALI GPU - I have a Board (LIME A10) which gets stuck and non-responsive after Mali-initialization. I tested two other boards that dont show this issue ...
<f15h> two other LIME A10 boards with the same sd card
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<ssvb> f15h: so 1 out of 3 boards fails?
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<ssvb> f15h: you can try reducing dram clock speed and/or downclocking the cpu until the problem disappears, then report the results
<f15h> but it is basically two boards from older batch and one board from newer batch
<f15h> thanks for the hint - i will play with script.fex to reduce cpu and dram speed...
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<integfred> Hi, does anyone know the max speed of the gpio pins on the olinuxino-lime?
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<hramrach> I have battery backup on my CT \o/
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<MattC_> Howdy, got a problem with my Olimex A20... recompiled a new kernel and now uboot won't go any further than 'Starting kernel....'
<MattC_> Any ideas?
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<mripard> oliv3r: ping?
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<tyler-baker> ptolts, yeah I ended up forking the open-wrt kernel (3.14) as it had support for the b53 switch driver
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I've cobbled together a debian image, kernel, dtb, swconfig util (compiled statically against glib)
<oliv3r> i noti ed the strange numbering yeah
<ptolts> i have a custom arch distro going on my bpi-m1
<ptolts> was hoping to get it going on the bpi-r1
<tyler-baker> ptolts, so the only thing I ran into using the mainline kernel was the ethernet switch
<ptolts> im not sure the bpi-r1 is worth the extra cost
<tyler-baker> ptolts, other than that, pretty much everything works fine
<ptolts> so the ethernet switch doesnt have a mainline driver?
<tyler-baker> ptolts, correct
<ptolts> is it as simple as pulling it out of the openwrt kernel?
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<tyler-baker> ptolts, it could be I saw a patch for it attempting to upstream it
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I never followed up on the status though
<ptolts> cool, thanks tyler-baker
<tyler-baker> ptolts, no problem let me know if you get something working on mainline ish kernel ;)
<ptolts> is there a community you hang out on besides the lemaker forum?
<ptolts> i have a cool read only root with a rw aufs layer setup going
<tyler-baker> ptolts, usually just hang out on irc, and the kernel mailing list. I'd be interested in the aufs project
<ptolts> havent had any corruption since
<ptolts> was almost unusable before
<tyler-baker> ptolts, that is progress :)
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I'm working on using this R1 as a ceph cluster
<NiteHawk> i came to dislike aufs due to its interdependency with the kernel. been using unionfs-fuse for gentoo successfully for quite a while
<tyler-baker> ptolts, configuring the switch for bonding vlans for public private ceph traffic
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<ptolts> tyler-baker: sounds cool, i'd never heard of ceph
<ptolts> i just wanted a router capable of running a full linux distro
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I think the bpi-r1 is well suited for that
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I tried a similar thing with the utilite-pro and failed :(
<ptolts> NiteHawk: cant remember why i ended up using aufs. once it worked I moved on
<ptolts> tyler-baker: yeah it seems the cheapest solution around
<ptolts> cost me a fortune to order 1 though
<tyler-baker> ptolts, Really? I'm curious how much you paid?
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<tyler-baker> ptolts, I got mine off eBay, shipped for ~100 use
<tyler-baker> *usd
<ptolts> I'm in Canada
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I'm very close, what Province?
<ptolts> think it was $67 usd from Sinovo
<tyler-baker> ah
<ptolts> but after shipping and duty it was nearly 175 canadian
<ptolts> I'm just outside Montreal
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I'm headed to HK in February, hoping to pickup a few more
<tyler-baker> ptolts, dang I am right across the border near Vancouver, BC
<tyler-baker> ptolts, could have smuggled you in a few ;)
<ptolts> haha next time
<tyler-baker> for sure
<ptolts> I thinking the switch is almost overkill at this point
<ptolts> everything is wireless
<ptolts> wish it had dualband and usb 3.0
<ptolts> from what i understand the wireless is over 2.0
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I'm having a bit of trouble with the wlan radio
<tyler-baker> ptolts, seems there is an issue with the firmware vs the version of cfg80211 the open-wrt guys are using
<ptolts> with my bpi-m1 i had a 8188eu dongle
<ptolts> had to compile a specific hostapd
<ptolts> it worked but the range was awful and my kernel locked up periodically
<tyler-baker> ptolts, Hrrm that is good information, I'll investigate
<tyler-baker> ptolts, that was my worry, this radio isn't worthy for an actual router :\
<tyler-baker> ptolts, What I'm going for is an open source debian router, running off of the sata drive
<ptolts> i havent connected any sata stuff
<tyler-baker> ptolts, last piece is to test the wifi
<ptolts> sounds ridiculous, but i wrote a rails interface
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I've found the sata works well both on the open-wrt kernel and mainline
<ptolts> you can select what vpn you want each network client to route through
<ptolts> can also setup qos rules really easily
<tyler-baker> ptolts, hrrm there are some investor I know that would love to make a product with that sort of interface
<ptolts> originally i started with openwrt
<ptolts> but i didnt feel like learning lua
<ptolts> and it just seemed dated
<tyler-baker> ptolts, yeah I couldn't stand the svn bits, drove me nuts about open-wrt :)
<ptolts> embedded guys are used to such limited hardware
<ptolts> but with these socs it isnt necessary
<tyler-baker> yup
<ptolts> do you have twitter?
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I don't but I use G+ a bit
<ptolts> mrtolton@gmail.com
<ptolts> or phil@dishgo.io
<ptolts> i think theres a market for something like this as well
<tyler-baker> ptolts, I'll shoot you an e-mail
<ptolts> i wish these boards had better software support though
<tyler-baker> ptolts, yeah I find myself doing a lot of the plumbing on these 'types' of boards
<ptolts> nice meeting you tyler-baker
<ptolts> i'll try and stop in more often
<tyler-baker> ptolts, nice to meet you as well, sent you an e-mail regarding a project ;)
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