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<willmore> mripard, the pannel connection on the little Banana Pi board.
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<tuxillo> hi
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<mripard> willmore: oh, right, sorry :)
<ElBarto> mripard: do you any plan to move sun4i/sun7i to clkng too ?
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<mripard> ElBarto: yes
<mripard> ElBarto: I'd like the conversion to be over in 4.11 or 4.12
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<ElBarto> mripard: okay, I really need to finish my driver for FreeBSD then :)
<mripard> I think wens made some progress on the A80
<mripard> and the only other SoCs remaining are the A10 and A20
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<silviop> I have a new A33 tablet with new porting problems!!
<silviop> u-boot semms not recognize lcd
<silviop> [lcd0_para]
<silviop> lcd_used = 1
<silviop> lcd_driver_name = "tm1280X800"
<silviop> strange size
<silviop> but is more strange
<silviop> lcd_x = 800
<silviop> lcd_y = 1280
<jelle> silviop: use a pastebin
<silviop> i need to add comments
<silviop> but i stranger that cpu-z give me 1280*720
<silviop> on android
<silviop> it's q8 classical form factor
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<jelle> which u-boot config did you take?
<silviop> i take 1280*600 with ruby generated (from fex) lcd params string
<silviop> i have two other A33 tablet and u-boot work ok , with this one only black screen
<silviop> before start fel+sd berakout uart i would try some simpler
<silviop> i feel that i will have a lot of trouble to port mainstream in this tablet it use tc1680 TS
<ssvb> silviop: do you have a complete fex? does this tablet have a page at the linux-sunxi wiki?
<jelle> silviop: still missing which config you use for u-boot..
<ssvb> this tablet seems to have a high resolution screen, and such screens tend to have some unusual configuration
<ssvb> LVDS, MIPI DSI, etc.
<silviop> ubuntu start , because i can connect thrugth usb/ethernet with ssh
<silviop> A33 support MPI ?
<ssvb> here is one example of unusual LCD display - https://linux-sunxi.org/MSI_Primo81#LCD
<ssvb> until you post your complete fex, nothing can be done to help you
<silviop> it's classical parallel lcd interface
<silviop> fex :https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B93bsOHOgV_lZkFuT2VEazZJV28/view?usp=sharing
<silviop> i add wiki page when it work
<silviop> i done wiki form my other full working tablet :http://linux-sunxi.org/ET_Q8_V2.0
<ssvb> lcd_if=4
<ssvb> which means dsi
<ssvb> see https://linux-sunxi.org/Fex_Guide#lcd.5B0.2F1.5D_configuration
<silviop> ok , and u-boot support dsi ?
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<ssvb> is there any bridge chip on the other side of the lcd cable?
<ssvb> a33 should support native dsi according to its user manual
<silviop> no, i count 6 pair on flat cable
<silviop> is not parallel for shure
<tuxillo> hey nanopi neo arrived!
<ssvb> silviop: you can check the reference a33 schematics, there must be a33(a23)_tablet_std_v1_0.pdf somewhere
<ssvb> silviop: the DSI interface is using a 40-pin connector according to the reference a33 tablet schematics (a lot of pins are just GND and VCC)
<ssvb> as for MIPI DSI support in U-Boot, I'm not sure if it is currently available
<ssvb> feel free to investigate and implement the driver for it if needed :-)
<silviop> ok i will go to coding!!!
<ssvb> it's best to check the Allwinners BSP and find the relevant parts of code responsible for handling your type of LCD display
<ssvb> silviop: please create a wiki page for your tablet, this really does not take much time, and you seem to have already taken the pictures
<silviop> I done in past for my other (working) tablet , i create it soon
<silviop> only to resolve touch screen too
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<MoeIcenowy> u-boot do not support native dsi.
<MoeIcenowy> I have bought a a33 tablet with native dsi
<MoeIcenowy> then I returned it back
<silviop> if u-boot does not support , kernel cannot ?
<ssvb> MoeIcenowy: LOL, why?
<ssvb> did it have a high quality IPS display?
<MoeIcenowy> yes it did
<MoeIcenowy> I just not feel very like to write drivers at that time
<MoeIcenowy> maybe I should purchase one now
<MoeIcenowy> it's only CNY￥219
<silviop> if china start making dsi tablet , u-boot will support dsi
<ssvb> silviop: your dsi display just needs a driver, either in U-Boot or in the kernel
<silviop> i pay 32€ shipped
<MoeIcenowy> yes at the same price level ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> although the A33's memory cannot afford such a high-resolution screen ;-)
<silviop> i only modify i2c driver in my life of coder , start from scratch is too hard for me
<MoeIcenowy> but debugging U-Boot on an A33 tablet is not a good experience
<silviop> it's very slow because uart0 is hidden by sd and you should start fel mode by hand every reboot
<ssvb> I used SD breakout when implementing and debugging U-Boot driver for the SSD2828 bridge chip
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<ssvb> hmm, no button there to activate the FEL mode?
<ssvb> A31s tablets had a hardware FEL button, connected to one of the VOL+/VOL-
<ssvb> this was nicely shown in a reference a31 tablet schematics
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<silviop> vol+
<silviop> about tc1680 someone have info ?
<silviop> is at 0x20 on i2c bus 0
<silviop> so code like gls1680 but different chip
<MoeIcenowy> silviop: try silead driver?
<silviop> yes , but firmware extractor not work with tcm1680.ko so probably with wrong firmware
<silviop> tc1680j have no datasheet
<MoeIcenowy> could you upload tcm1680.ko somewhere?
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<silviop> tcm1680.ko
<silviop> do you try to disassembly ?
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<vishnup> will anybody attend for fossasia 2017?
<vishnup> 17th - 19th March 2017 in Singapore
<mripard> silviop: MoeIcenowy: do you have references for tablets with MIPI DSI?
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<silviop> there are no references as dsi is not supported
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<mripard> silviop: I meant what is the model / where did you find it
<silviop> i buy cheapest A33 ebay tablet !!
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<mripard> do you have a link ?
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<willmore> mripard, no need to apologize. Keeping up with an N-way threaded conversation medium is crazy difficult.
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<silviop> i pay it 32€ shipped but now stay at 35€
<silviop> it is mipi dsi and touch screen use tc1680j that for now not work with kernel 4.10
<silviop> but boot xubuntu 16.04 (i connect to it through usb/ethernet + ssh)
<willmore> silviop, 1280x800 was made popular by the Nexus 7 (2012) tablet quite some time ago. That res is a good indication that it's going to be a nice IPS screen.
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<mripard> silviop: awesome, thanks
<mripard> I've been searching for a board with MIPI DSI during the last couple of days :)
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<silviop> If someone start develope MIPI driver i can make tester , i have a big experience on cheap tablets linux porting (i have 6 A13 tablet with ubuntu for my domotic interface)
<silviop> cpu-z report 1280x720 in screen size
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<vishnup> mripard: wens: hans: I was thinking to introduce linux-sunxi community at fossasia.
<vishnup> just a progress on allwinner mainline contributions like hans did it at fossdem
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<willmore> silviop, I don't remember cpu-z specifically, but some of the programs similar to that only report the screen area the application can draw on--so the back, home, and multitasking bar area is taken off. Rotate the tablet 90 degrees and see if it changes, maybe?
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<silviop> only exchange in values whit rotation
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<silviop> i vote for 1280*720 real resolution
<silviop> that is hd 16:9 panel
<willmore> silviop, okay, interesting that it reports x800, then.
<silviop> x800 is in fex
<willmore> understood
<silviop> but i fell mipi as autodiscovery
<silviop> i suppose mipi as autodiscovery
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<ssvb> silviop: you can just use a ruler and measure width/height, then compare this ratio with 16:9
<KotCzarny> that's assuming square pixels
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<ssvb> every display uses square pixels nowadays
<KotCzarny> i can easily imagine chinese entrepreneur packing 10% fewer pixel and selling it as 16:9
<ssvb> nobody wants to deal with the aspect ratio nightmares of the prehistoric times :-)
<ssvb> do Chinese entrepreneurs manufacture LCD panels? I thought that there are only a few companies in the whole world producing these things
<MoeIcenowy> but I think at least in China there's some vendor produces LCD panels
<MoeIcenowy> but many of them have factories in china
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<mripard> vishnup: if you have that opportunity, that would be great :)
<mripard> vishnup: and if you need your slides to be reviewed, feel free to send them
<MoeIcenowy> To
<MoeIcenowy> To be honest
<MoeIcenowy> I think there should be more people from China to join linux-sunxi
<MoeIcenowy> but now the amount is too low
<KotCzarny> language barrier?
<KotCzarny> great firewall?
<KotCzarny> lack of exposure? (ie. no one know such thing exists)
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: start chinese language based blog?
<MoeIcenowy> many people are just dumb users
<KotCzarny> maybe they dont even know/care about linux?
<MoeIcenowy> and even SBC vendors do not care mainline
<MoeIcenowy> they're only using BSP
<KotCzarny> easier, no man-hours spent
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<KotCzarny> what are those boards used for in china?
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<walkiry> Hi guys! Do you know where can i find information about the "secure boot" and "efuse" (not the SID) ? Thanks
<walkiry> I forgot to mention, this is for the A64
<ssvb> walkiry: in the linux-sunxi wiki, after dgp adds this information there
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<ssvb> or you can just try to contact Allwinner directly, and then share this information with us
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<walkiry> yea i try to contact them
<walkiry> but i think unless your order 100000000 units of their a64, they won't give you any information
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<walkiry> thank you anyway :)
<ssvb> why 100000000 units? are you really sure, because that's the same order of magnitude as yearly iPhone sales - https://www.statista.com/statistics/276306/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-fiscal-year-2007/
<ssvb> I think something like 30000 might be good enough, Pine64 kickstarter shipped this much unless I'm mistaken
<walkiry> yea i was exagerating a bit ^^. What i wanted to tell is that if you want to develop a protype they won't give you any information...
<MoeIcenowy> I remember Olimex bought 50000 A10 once
<KotCzarny> did they responded to their docs requests in meaningful manner?
<ssvb> KotCzarny: yes, Pine64 got A64 manuals from Allwinner - https://linux-sunxi.org/index.php?title=A64&diff=17559&oldid=17533
<MoeIcenowy> seems that not a many volume is needed
<ssvb> maybe TL Lim can ask Allwinner about secure boot and efuse too
<KotCzarny> how much for custom built mali blob?
<KotCzarny> ;)
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<MoeIcenowy> Lichee Pi Zero got V3s datasheet (user manual included) and V3s lichee sdk with nearly no volume
<ssvb> KotCzarny: regarding the mali blobs, I'll try to check what's going on there
<MoeIcenowy> I've heard that my lpi0 is the only really running one
<NiteHawk> as of lately Allwinner SoC documentation shows a tendency to contain less and less actual information :/
<ssvb> MoeIcenowy: that's good to know, is it available for download somewhere?
<arete74> wSerVer513
<vishnup> mripard: Thanks, If application is approved I'll create slides and send it for review.
<MoeIcenowy> ssvb: v3s sdk not yet fully released
<MoeIcenowy> v3s ds already on linux-sunxi.org
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<MoeIcenowy> I suddenly felt like to go to Shenzhen tomorrow
<KotCzarny> impulse shopper?
<MoeIcenowy> maybe goto Huaqiang South to look at lowend tablet market
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<FrostyBytes> hi everyone. I have mainline 4.4.41 running on a banana pi (original). will this GPIO library work with mainline kernel? https://github.com/LeMaker/WiringBP
<FrostyBytes> otherwise, what is the best way to read GPIOs with mainline kernel ...
<beeble> FrostyBytes: sysfs gpio?
<FrostyBytes> ok will look at that. actually I am running 4.9, trying to switch to 4.4.41 encountered some hitches
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<KotCzarny> what hitches?
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<FrostyBytes> well it's working now. it was a hitch in my initramfs builder. the module axp20x-i2c does not exist in 4.4.41, but neither is it needed for usb, so all is well
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<likewise> Did anyone try to use the MALI driver for 4.8 / CHIP on anything else then CHIP?
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<MoeIcenowy> likewise: of course ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> it works also on A33
<likewise> MoeIcenowy: against which kernel did you try?
<MoeIcenowy> my own kernel tree, which fetched some extra commits
<likewise> MoeIcenowy: I would like to bring meta-sunxi into recent state wrt kernel, mali kernel driver, and sunxi-mali user-space.
<likewise> MoeIcenowy: what release of the kernel was that?
<MoeIcenowy> 4.9
<MoeIcenowy> to be honest they're dig out from mripard
<MoeIcenowy> my distro have these commits as patches, at https://github.com/AOSC-Dev/aosc-os-armel-sunxi-boot/tree/master/patches/linux (see series started with 4
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<likewise> MoeIcenowy: Some of the changes seem sun4i related, or are they more generic than that? For example https://github.com/Icenowy/linux/commit/9c1343deffec4819e707bc47d8950cf17532ba13
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<MoeIcenowy> they are more generic
<MoeIcenowy> sun4i-drm cannot fully support sun4i now ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> it's named sun4i just as the architecture and the DE is from sun4i
<MoeIcenowy> now the only fully supported hardware is only sun5i and sun8iw5
<MoeIcenowy> (wens implemented sun8iw3 support
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<likewise> MoeIcenowy: Did you try yourself on a sun5i?
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<MoeIcenowy> likewise: I do not have a sun5i when I do these
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<likewise> MoeIcenowy: thanks for your efforts, I will see if I can make this work on olinuxino-a13
<MoeIcenowy> you should at first get drm work on the board
<likewise> MoeIcenowy: drm is fully in-kernel, right?
<MoeIcenowy> yes
<MoeIcenowy> but I do not know whether this board's dts have display enabled
<likewise> MoeIcenowy: I am not sure, but thanks, I will do that. I am off to get some sleep. See you around here.
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