<KotCzarny>
why the heck it costs more than opi+2e while having half the mem and emmc? (and one less usb port)
<sunxisundo>
Whats script.bin supposed to look like?
<TheLinuxBug>
slightly cheaper direct before shipping, http://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=176 its basically the OPi PC Plus with bluetooth and 1Gbps instead of 100mbit I think?
<TheLinuxBug>
and, 'the smaller form factor'
<KotCzarny>
TheLinuxBug: but compared to opi+2e ? does it have any advantages other than smaller board? (which is an disadvantage really when it comes to heat)
<TheLinuxBug>
Not really, I see it as a competitor to OPi PC Plus though, which if you buy from say 'banggood' or someone besides Aliexpress is $28.99 and they sell the Friendly arm version with bluetooth and gigabit NIC for $30 (both before shipping)
<sunxisundo>
and more importantly is it possible for a device to only have a fex file onboard and no script.bin
<KotCzarny>
sunxisundo: fex isnt used for anything other than be the source for .bin
<TheLinuxBug>
Of Course OPi Plus 2# is better than both...
<TheLinuxBug>
2E*
<TheLinuxBug>
considering what you get at the pricepoint
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<TheLinuxBug>
I did finally order a PC Plus, should come this week...
<sunxisundo>
KotCzarny: grepping the extracted firmware reveals no script.bin, but theres what appears to be a FEX file named: COMMON _SYS_CONFIG100000
<TheLinuxBug>
had considered the FriendlyArm version though as well
<KotCzarny>
TheLinuxBug: hah, sucker for punishment?
<KotCzarny>
sunxisundo: have you read the wiki?
<TheLinuxBug>
KotCzarny: I suppose, the people from AliExpress told me "wait 10 days and we guarentee a resolution" which I am hoping isn't foreign for "we take your money, bye!"
<sunxisundo>
KotCzarny: yeah, but its not exactly clear, especially if your device seems to deviate from the norm
<KotCzarny>
sunxisundo: there are other ways to extract bin/fex than just firmware grep
<TheLinuxBug>
KotCzarny: so I tried my luck with banggood, the only other reasonably priced alertenative.. we will see
<sunxisundo>
KotCzarny: i don't have USB OTG
<KotCzarny>
TheLinuxBug: i hope aliexpress will get your ass covered
<TheLinuxBug>
I am getting anxcious for EXPRESSObin though!
<TheLinuxBug>
should be any day I hope!
<TheLinuxBug>
ESPRESSObin even..
<TheLinuxBug>
too excited.
<TheLinuxBug>
need to cut back on the coffee..
<KotCzarny>
yeah, will be interesting to see how it behaves in real tests
<TheLinuxBug>
indeed. I noticed on https://forum.armbian.com/index.php?/topic/3045-support-of-helios4-intro/ the image is not broken... and no update for a while.. was kind of interested to see where that went
<TheLinuxBug>
s/not/now
<KotCzarny>
storage oriented, nice
<TheLinuxBug>
yeah was thinking to compare the performance on the ESPRESSObin with the Helios4 if it ever came to exist... but seems to have gone stale
<KotCzarny>
but this SoC will heat up to 70°C in idle (with this "stock" heatsink) without active cooling
<KotCzarny>
lol
<KotCzarny>
70C in idle?
<sunxisundo>
Is the bootinfo info used for anything?
<KotCzarny>
probably not
<KotCzarny>
maybe some vendor software uses it
<sunxisundo>
the wiki says i need it, then never mentions it again XD
<KotCzarny>
my fex files dont have it and work fine
<KotCzarny>
also, which soc are you working on?
<sunxisundo>
A20
<KotCzarny>
go mainline
<KotCzarny>
it's almost fully supported
<KotCzarny>
(and mainline doesnt use fex anymore)
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<sunxisundo>
Yeah, doesn't that mean i need to know how to create a devicetree though?
<KotCzarny>
is it custom made device with weird layout?
<sunxisundo>
its a cheapo HTPC thingy
<KotCzarny>
there is a high chance they didnt differ from reference design
<sunxisundo>
how would i know?
<TheLinuxBug>
KotCzarny: it also looks like the Friendly Arm version you lose the DC barrel plug which means for any real high cpu stability you would probably use the gpio pins for power and 1 x USB 2.0 it looks like as well - FriendlyArm does not advertise the M1 Plus to come with an Android image
<KotCzarny>
TheLinuxBug: it's h3, most likely some generic image will work :P
<TheLinuxBug>
;)
<KotCzarny>
sunxisundo: ho, hum. compare available devicetrees to spot any irregularities then create minimal set?
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* sunxisundo
sees over 1000 arm devicetree files in mainline
<sunxisundo>
XD
<sunxisundo>
:(
<KotCzarny>
sunxisundo: you only want those for A20 soc
<KotCzarny>
and probably can ignore tablet ones
* sunxisundo
looks towards the legacy kernel
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<sunxisundo>
if only i knew what was needed...
<sunxisundo>
maybe ill get back to my MIPS board
<sunxisundo>
:(
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<sunxisundo>
defconfig?
<KotCzarny>
yup
<sunxisundo>
is this something i should have already?
<KotCzarny>
try make sunxi_defconfig
<sunxisundo>
what exactly is it though?
<KotCzarny>
[default config options for generic sunxi device
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<sunxisundo>
sunxi_defconfig doesnt exist
<KotCzarny>
in mainline it sure exists
<sunxisundo>
the wiki tells me to git clone some random other git
<sunxisundo>
for the legacy kernel
<sunxisundo>
which i would prefer because i have no idea how to make a devicetree
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<sunxisundo>
and given the device despite being quite a few years old barely exists on google, I wouldn't hold my breath on someone else making one
<sunxisundo>
yeah, i think imma give up, at least til the wiki makes some more sense. have fun
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<Wizzup>
> One of the interesting sessions was with regard to ARM's Mali graphics drivers where Vulkan was talked about as well as the lack of current open-source drivers due to lack of customer demand.
<Wizzup>
They just like making that up I'm sure
<plaes>
well, depends on whom they are defining as customers... :S
<KotCzarny>
wizzup: some people live in castles in the sky
<Wizzup>
KotCzarny: you mean they're agressively slinging mud
<KotCzarny>
yeah, imagine justin bieber spitting on his fans
<Wizzup>
uh
<KotCzarny>
sponsored dummy
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<williamfligor>
Has anyone here had success with the Nanopi Neo Air on 4.10.1 with brcmfmac? I have loaded the nvram .txt file but still get brcmfmac: brcmf_sdio_htclk: HT Avail timeout (1000000): clkctl 0x50. I have tried Armbian nightly builds and the WiFi works on them.
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<MoeIcenowy>
williamfligor: have you loaded the correct firmware?
<MoeIcenowy>
I used to meet this problem when I'm trying to load a RPi3 Wi-Fi firmware to an AP6212
<williamfligor>
I just found that a user on this IRC that said that the neo air required a different firmware file (https://vps.vdwaa.nl/~jelle/brcm/) than normal. I will try that when I get a chance. I am currently trying the one from linux-firmware.
<williamfligor>
@MoeIcenowy
<MoeIcenowy>
do not use the one.
<MoeIcenowy>
I think jelle's firmware is ok
<MoeIcenowy>
he's the author of Nano Pi NEO Air device tree
<williamfligor>
Thanks I will try jelle's when I get back home. The MD5 of that one matches Armbian's so hopefully that is the issue.
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<jelle>
williamfligor: what's the issue?
<jelle>
I literally took the one from armbian btw :)
<jelle>
I wonder how this should be upstreamed though linux-firmware though :S
<williamfligor>
@jelle I am just having trouble getting brcmfmac to load. I get the HT Avail timeouts (as far as I can tell these occur when brcmfmac attempts to bring up the SDIO interface but I'm not sure. Very new to this)
<williamfligor>
@jelle any chance you have your dts file, defconfig, and the brcmfmac nvram .txt file? I'm trying to gather all the resources I can find so when I get back home later today I can try them all.
<williamfligor>
nvm on the .txt file, it's in that link.
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<Seppoz>
my system prints serial8250: too much work for and fails with a kernel bug after a while all the suddon
<Seppoz>
anyhting i can do?
<MoeIcenowy>
jelle, williamfligor: in fact I used to get AP621{0,2} firmware from BPi ;-)
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<jelle>
williamfligor: can't tell much more then grab that firmware and use it :)
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<BenG83>
looks like lichee-pi zero will be safely funded