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<Strontium> ElBarto: the neutis.io board looks expensive.
<Strontium> anyone know anthing about device tree and drm drivers?
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<smaeul> KotCzarny: The list at http://linux-sunxi.org/AR100#Blob_versions isn't exhaustive, it just includes blobs I've found so far. If you know of any others, please send them to me
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<Strontium> smaeul: so, in theory one could write some low lever real time drivers and run them on the AR100 in a H3. For example, a jitter free software PWM for driving servos.
<pmpp> yeah it's on my plate
<Strontium> i was looking at: https://github.com/Icenowy/h3-arisc-shutdown assuming that works, it wouldn't be too tough to hack that. Not sure how its loaded into the AR100 though...
<Strontium> Could do all sorts of cool things.
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<pmpp> Strontium: you may have interest in h3fakeoff too
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<Strontium> pmpp: cant find its source, more specifically the source of h3droid :(
<pmpp> maybe come on #h3droid then
<pmpp> loader is ~10 lines
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<smaeul> Strontium: yes. AR100 for PWM is being looked at here: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/6019-openrisc-core-ar100-for-the-real-time-tasks/ (and the github project)
<smaeul> AR100 for power management is being worked on by pmpp/KotCzarny as h3fakeoff and by another group at https://github.com/crust-firmware/crust
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<Strontium> smaeul: will experiment with the AR100 once i can get the TVE output running on 4.14.21
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<mripard> jernej: is there a status bit to see if the monitor is connected ?
<mripard> you could probably look at that bit instead of using interrupts, to see if it's the detection or the interrupt not firing
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<wens> a83t hdmi does not work for a80 (or maybe I got the clocks wrong)
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<wens> ddc works, and so does the tcon, but nothing gets displayed
<wens> I'm guessing TMDS isn't working
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<hanetzer> hey, question. do sunxi soc's tend to have some form of serial programming method one can use to load a program into ram via uart like some arm soc's do? (aside from swd/jtag)
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<pmpp> hanetzer: sure but via musb not uart , http://linux-sunxi.org/FEL/USBBoot
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<hanetzer> pmpp: ah, that looks useful
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<hanetzer> electrically speaking, emmc/sd card are the same?
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<KotCzarny> eMMC: The contacts on the rear side of the package have a 153 BGA
<KotCzarny> sdcard: 9 pins
<KotCzarny> so, not quite
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<KotCzarny> but i assume it might work in some common mode
<KotCzarny> eMMC also does not support the SPI-bus protocol
<KotCzarny> heh
<hanetzer> hmm. just investigating stuff :P
<KotCzarny> why the heck it's so expensive?
<hanetzer> KotCzarny: a lot of these sort of things are very expensive. standard soic-8/16 is pretty cheap, though
<KotCzarny> i assume they did some custom ic/fw probably
<hanetzer> quite possible.
<hanetzer> those look neat tho
<KotCzarny> looking at aliexpress there is no cheaper emmc reader than ~90usd
<KotCzarny> clamshell socket alone costs ~60usd
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<arnd> hanetzer: KotCzarny: I think historically, SD and MMC were very close, as the original SD spec was derived from MMC cards with its 20MHz 4 bit mode (in addition to 1bit SPI mode), but over the past 16 years they each got extended many times in incompatible ways
<hanetzer> divergent evolution, no?
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<Strontium> well i managed to get tv out from my orange pi zero using armbian and the 4.14.21 kernel: https://imgur.com/mFlD02q
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<Strontium> the quality looks better than the 3.4 kernel. its obviously interlaced, and the color is a little rainbowy but not bad, certainly usable.
<Strontium> Overscans like hell, so thats another problem, and i am getting issues inside the drm code, but i think i know what that might be.
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<diego71> hanetzer: no. More like retrocompatibility
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<hanetzer> anyone aware of any open hardware designs making use of allwinner chips?
<KotCzarny> olimex?
<hanetzer> KotCzarny: does that include design files?
<KotCzarny> lol
<BenG83> tl uploaded the design files for most of the files by now, but you need OrCAD to use them...
<BenG83> http://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PINE_A64-LTS/SOPine_Main_Page#Pine_A64-LTS.2C_SOPine_Module_and_Baseboard_Information.2C_Schematics.2C_and_Certifications
<BenG83> *boards
<hanetzer> just looking for some references
<BenG83> Olimex is nice because KiCAD
<KotCzarny> funny how i can't seem to find the source files tho
<BenG83> I think they are all on github
<KotCzarny> yeah, just found the link
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<hanetzer> interesting, thanks for the resources.
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<jernej> wens: maybe you can try first with disconnected monitor during boot and when it is fully booted, you connect it
<jernej> that way you would workaround the issue I stumbled upon
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<jernej> if it still doesn't work, then clocks are likely the cause
<jernej> mripard: If you mean to try HPD polling approach, then yes, that worked ok in the past
<jernej> but I would prefer to fix that
<mripard> jernej: maybe the interrupt fires only when the monitor is plugged in?
<mripard> so if it's already plugged, you wouldn't get one
<jernej> well yes, since it is hpd interrupt, it only fires when there is a change
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<mripard> then you should probably read the status bit at probe
<mripard> and report whether it's connected / disconnected at that time
<mripard> and then rely on the interrupts
<jernej> but nevertheless, from dmesg I posted here yesterday, it is visible that monitor is properly detected
<jernej> vblank issue happens after modes are read
<jernej> mripard: I have a feeling that something in sun4i_crtc_atomic_flush isn't right
<focus> swiftgeek: blue leds ok to use if have 4.7k to 10k serial resistor - then they look like any normal LED without poking eyes out :)
<mripard> I'm not sure what could be the issue then
<jernej> more interestingly, why it happens only with some monitors
<swiftgeek> focus: never
<swiftgeek> focus: blue is always retina piercing and preventing you from sleeping properly
<mripard> jernej: maybe it's a clock issue then :)
<swiftgeek> if you want alarm clock that kills you just use strong blue LEDs :P
<jernej> mripard: or something connected with resolution
<jernej> *to
<mripard> yeah, maybe
<jernej> anyway, I guess I can sent H3 patches before that is solved
<mripard> I was more thinking about the pixelclock
<jernej> I still have few ideas which I can test over the weekend
<mripard> I guess you could dump clock_summary when you have that monitor plugged in
<mripard> and when you plug it after boot
<mripard> and see if there's any difference
<mripard> that should already give you a pretty good answer
<jernej> I will do all that
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<jernej> but problem is, that monitor doesn't get configured with same timings/resolutions in those cases
<jernej> since if monitor is disconnected during boot, fbcon gets configured with 800x600 resolution
<jernej> and if it is connected, with screen native 1280x800
<jernej> but if I go from 800x600 to 1280x600 with modetest, it works
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<jernej> actually, I tested all supported resolutions with modetest and they work
<jernej> mripard: Is it possible that we stumble upon race conditions described here: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.16-rc2/source/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_vblank.c#L844
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<focus> swiftgeek: "retina piercing" = bleaching the blue absorbers in the eye rapidly leading to temporary blindness
<swiftgeek> focus: many people consider it as kinda pain
<swiftgeek> there is a reason why police lights are blue
<swiftgeek> it's the most annoying thing possible
<swiftgeek> so there is no way you will ignore it
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<megi> jernej: with newer kernels I get "driver forgot to call drm_crtc_vblank_off()" WARN_ON warning but that may be unrelated
<megi> newer meaning >= 4.15
<jernej> megi: Patch to fix that is already sent, just not yet merged
<jernej> but yes, it's unrelated
<megi> ok
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<jernej> mripard: I think this is also worth of exploring: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.16-rc2/source/include/drm/drm_device.h#L122
<jernej> anyway, it will have to wait until I get home
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<shadeslayer> mripard: btw on BSP + glamoregl/X11 : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xK5N3X3RPP/
<shadeslayer> similar story on mainline too, it just hangs at starting X11
<megi> jernej: thank you
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<hanetzer> so, wasn't there a kickstarter to fund fossing the VPU fully on these chips?
<BenG83> still going
<BenG83> next stretch goal is 30.8k€
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<hanetzer> I kinda like this open-source funding model :P
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<jernej> mripard: This is dmesg when monitor is connected after the boot: https://pastebin.com/raw/XEBcVp7X
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