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<xyyangkun>
Can I remove the unused power domains in our schematic design, for example if I do not use MIPI-DSI moudle, Can I remove the MIPI-DSI power domain VCC18-DSI?
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<montjoie>
anyone with a sun7i-a20-olinuxino-micro ? 5.2.18 fail to boot on it
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<plaes>
montjoie: I have one at home
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<montjoie>
plaes: for the moment from 4.8 up to next it wont boot
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<montjoie>
but I need to know if my hw is ok
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<rellla>
jernej: are you around?
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<Net147>
montjoie: I have sun7i-a20-olinuxino-micro, running 4.19.78
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<rellla>
jernej: i used the libreelec repositories to set up mali binaries and the kernel driver. all good so far.
<jernej>
oh, I think libgbm is actually just soft linked to libmali
<rellla>
now i want to build kmscube and that fails, because the gbm version is too old. so i found the src directory which includes the right header and a gbm.c file.
<rellla>
the commit message says sth about a gbm wrapper which sounds like it is exactly what i am missing. so i wonder how i can do that manually.
<jernej>
I don't think that's used
<jernej>
at least at the moment
<rellla>
Kwiboo might know, because he pushed that?
<libv>
not that he is making measurable money with it
<libv>
but... wtf?
<ullbeking>
i just realized why OPi +2E is my favorite, and why it was love at first site.... it doesn't have SATA, and doesn't even attempt to emulate it via USB.
<ullbeking>
And it's H3 so well supported
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<ElBarto>
anyone with a pine h64 board ?
<ElBarto>
I don't have anything after SPL with u-boot v2019.10
<ElBarto>
first time I power the board too
<ElBarto>
using atf v2.1, wonder if that matters
<ElBarto>
meh, I'm using atf for a64
<ElBarto>
yup that was the problem, sorry for the noise :)
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<[TheBug]>
ullbeking: and you can run H3Droid on it :D
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<ullbeking>
[TheBug]: YES!!! I STILL have to try it!
<ullbeking>
maybe it will initialize better than Armbian?
<[TheBug]>
or... or... get this, you can Dual load Armbian or even tripple load Libreelec H3 once you installed H3Droid from H3resc ;p
<ullbeking>
is H3resc the important word in that sentence?
<ullbeking>
;-)
<[TheBug]>
H3resc is pretty sweet for that, as long as you have a decent sized SDcard it is our Bios that allows you to setup the system pretty much and you can dual/tripple load Armbian/Libreelec from right in H3resc
<ullbeking>
wow
<ullbeking>
ok, i'm setting up a fresh +2e right now
<[TheBug]>
provides utilities to resize partitions, copy system to Emmc
<[TheBug]>
ullbeking: my and KotCzarny's purchases of the OPi Plus 2E is what spawned the project -- thats why when I saw you talking about the Plus 2E I had to say something :) It is for sure the best H3 device I own and I own at least 11 different H3 boards..
<ullbeking>
im so glad that you did say something then!!
<ullbeking>
it's still the best one, and stil the one i recommend to others
<[TheBug]>
yep, if someone asks its the one I tend to recommend
<[TheBug]>
PC Plus is also good in a pinch if you don't mind the lower amount of emmc spaceand half the memory
<ullbeking>
it was particularly welcome advice at the time because i was looking around and checking my research for recommendation for a small very quiet home server that is also a vert host, and having people bash my head for my choices was another great introduction to irc at that time.
<ullbeking>
so when you and KotCzarny were nice to me i was so happy
<[TheBug]>
hehe :)
<ullbeking>
i think i have pc plus 2
<ullbeking>
what is it about pc plus that you like?
<[TheBug]>
well, it isn't that others arn't nice, its just in this niche those with a lot of experience have limited bandwidth available as they are often busy with more important tasks, so I can see how it could be seen as unwelcoming. The reality is you just have to come and ask and be as direct as you can and as people have time they will try to help. I used to feel it was a bit rough sometimes
<[TheBug]>
as well in similar channels, but came to understand it isn't the people don't want to, it is just a time restriction. ;)
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<[TheBug]>
PC Plus is just the dumbed down version of the Plus 2E in my opionion, its basically just half the memory and half the emmc. You do however lose the 4 independantly routed usb channels as I think on the PC Plus it uses a hub, however, in most of my use cases this hasn't been very impactful. For some it could be though, I imagine.
<[TheBug]>
but as a general little server box or media box, its just about as productive. You obviously have some gains from higher memory on Plus 2E, like you have to worry less about issue in Android where GPU wants a bunch of memory, cutting down the system usable amount.
<[TheBug]>
but in Linux, really you won't see too huge a difference I don't think
<[TheBug]>
its not quite as memory hunger by any means
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<ullbeking>
"the 4 independantly routed usb channels" this is cleraly one of +2e's killer features
<ullbeking>
what other OPi's have this?
<megi>
Opi PC does
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<ullbeking>
coooool, thx megi
<ullbeking>
i wanna get Armbian working on the +2e i'm using now. it's kind of like my smoke test, i.e., it's a good tool to use to check for gross breakages
<ullbeking>
megi: i just realise
<ullbeking>
realized, i'm literally in the middle of an ali order so i'll add an opi pc to it too :D
<megi>
:)
<megi>
pi 3, I like more though :)
<ullbeking>
ty for the great timing!
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<ullbeking>
i will need one with pci-e at some point
<megi>
2xUSB2 + 1xUSB3 (4-port hub, all exposed)
<ullbeking>
but that depems on MANY factors including libreness
<megi>
pci-e is non-working there though
<ullbeking>
there's an online video of some guy getting the RPi 4 exposing its pci-e to an external device
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<[TheBug]>
ullbeking: whats your intended use fof PCIe
<ullbeking>
[TheBug]: brb, will tell you in a few minutes
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<ullbeking>
nearly back
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<ullbeking>
hey [TheBug]
<ullbeking>
i'm working on a poc right now so it's not even confirmed that i'll even need pci-e
<ullbeking>
and i'd prefer a design that didn't need it anyway
<ullbeking>
but i am designing a small board to interface with a workstation or server type of computer, and has trusted access to the interior bus, etc, of the system itself
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<ullbeking>
it needs to exercise the level of control it needs on the host system
<ullbeking>
but first, as i mentioned,
<ullbeking>
it would be great if i didn't have to use the pci-e because it would be much simpler and and much less prone to nuclear level security holes if it isn't done perfectly
<ullbeking>
and second,
<ullbeking>
it would have to be build on a 100% libre or libre-friendly sbc. we have an rpi 3b+ protoype in development, but i don't really like rpi
<hellsenberg>
pcie on sunxi? I thought H6 had useless PCIe?
<ullbeking>
no no
<ullbeking>
hellsenberg: wait
<ullbeking>
i'm not using this opi for that project
<ullbeking>
this is for sth else
<hellsenberg>
um, then I think I got lost
<ullbeking>
yeah, i need to write it up on a web page and then publish that
<ullbeking>
and then send you the link
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<[TheBug]>
ullbeking: I mean you still didn't actually state what you were goingf to use PCIe for or maybe I misunderstood?
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<[TheBug]>
or you saying this is some prototype pcie device and you want to interface it with the SBC?
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<ullbeking>
[TheBug]: hang
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<ullbeking>
[TheBug]: primarily i use my opi +2e's, bbb, rpi 3b+, and a few other to flash bios chips to put coreboot or Libreboot on X200's, etc. i am also interested in making a +2e cluster for home. the big project, however, involving sbc's, is ...
* ullbeking
is ruminating on his story behind this project...
<ullbeking>
i wanna shout it from the rooftops but until i, at least, have a very basic bit of code that run and flashes an LED, i am worried that such an announcement would jinx it
<ullbeking>
if i had a web page descrinbing it, however, then that would be OK
<aalm>
ic
<ullbeking>
so I need to describe it on a web page
<sunshavi>
ullbeking: opi+2e 4 flashing coreboot. is it smth different from rpi?. Most guides on the net are based on rpi
<ullbeking>
sunshavi: the flashing is completely incidendant
<ullbeking>
incidental*
<ullbeking>
basically i am building a hardware device and writing firmware so that it is able to perform power control, etc, on a remote machine
<ullbeking>
so
<ullbeking>
it needs to be on a libre SBC or libre-friendly SBC at lkeast
<aalm>
power control as in on/off, or via pmic controlling voltages etc. even?
<ullbeking>
aalm: it's quite low level
<ullbeking>
i.e.,
<ullbeking>
it's not just WoL
<ullbeking>
also, you see that a device that has such initimate access to your computer needs to be fully auditable
<ullbeking>
OK, Armbian is install on the +2E
<ullbeking>
maybe it's time for H3Droid now
<aalm>
how do you audit a chinese SoC ?
<ullbeking>
it may not be a chinese soc
<aalm>
i see
<ullbeking>
this is another reason i don't like having to explain it on the spot
<ullbeking>
i foget details
<ullbeking>
and people get confused
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<ullbeking>
if it were written down, that'd be better
<aalm>
np. :]
<ullbeking>
as far as libre-friendly, so far solid run is looking pretty good
<ullbeking>
whoa, H3Resc looks awesome!!
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