jackdaniel changed the topic of #lisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language<http://cliki.net/> logs:<https://irclog.whitequark.org/lisp,http://ccl.clozure.com/irc-logs/lisp/> | SBCL 1.4.5, CMUCL 21b, ECL 16.1.3, CCL 1.11.5, ABCL 1.5.0
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<jasom> I suspect cl-ppcre is what would lead to that recommendation though. You can get some errors that appear to be in your code that uses cl-ppcre when they actually are happening deep within cl-ppcre.
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<flip214> good morning! today even before beach ;)
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<LdBeth> Good afterwards
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<phoe> minion: memo for pierpa: I remember that there was kind-of-an-equivalent in CCL; you could ask rme for that because he pointed me towards something similar once.
<minion> Remembered. I'll tell pierpa when he/she/it next speaks.
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<beach> Good morning everyone!
<beach> Hello flip214. Back from vacation?
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<phoe> Morning!
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<Shinmera> Morning.
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<schweers> Is it just me, or is the interface to WITH-FOREIGN-OBJECT and WITH-FOREIGN-POINTER in CFFI a little weird? According to their docstrings they both stack allocate (if possible) an object and give out a pointer to it. in one case I give a type, in the other a size, but can also give a size-var?
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<pjb> objects have types, pointer to random memory have size of memory allocated. In both case, you can know the size that has been allocated.
<pjb> err, I mean, in the object case, you can know the size with cffi:foreign-type-size
<pjb> But the point is that objects and pointers to memory blocks are two different things, so you cannot count on a similar API, even if it has the same prefix.
<schweers> seems like both can be used, as one can get the size from a type. What confuses me a little: I’d like to give a type and have a variable bound to the size. I’d also like to give a type and a count and get a total-size. But it seems that I don’t get that.
<pjb> schweers: this is why you are a programmer, and lisp is a meta-programming programming language: write your own macros!
<schweers> sure, I can do that. I’m just a little confused about the option the API gives me. They seem a little weird, that’s all.
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<devon> Lest I reinvent the wheel, is there a util to list all symbols referenced in a lisp file?
<Xach> devon: I don't think so.
<Shinmera> devon: what would you do with that information?
<Xach> I think you might be able to fish that info out of something like sb-introspect perhaps.
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<Shinmera> If I had to do this I'd probably use Eclector and add a method on its intern function to record the symbol, then read the file with it.
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<devon> QL lacks sb-introspect and Eclector.
<Shinmera> sb-introspect is an SBCL contrib, and it does have eclector.
<Bike> (require :sb-introspect)
<Bike> in sbcl, of course
<devon> I'd have to install SBCL then.
<Bike> i don't think it has a facility like that,though
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<Shinmera> If you can't load eclector, update your ql dist.
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<dlowe> PSA: the #clnoobs channel has been renamed to #clschool.
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<Josh_2> ^^ bots everywhere Q_Q
<dlowe> and no op on #clnoobs. I registered #clschool so we shouldn't have that problem again, at least.
<Josh_2> Gotta change it on cliki, I can't remember my darn pics
<Josh_2> pics.. password
<Josh_2> wait I got it
<Josh_2> ahh u got it :)
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<dlowe> yeah, I got it
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<trittweiler> devon: I had done something like that with swank/source-path-parser.lisp from Slime, 8 years ago. I did that to color symbols in an emacs buffer by home package. Never polished that one up though
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<dlowe> could someone get specbot out of #clnoobs and into #clschool? thx
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<jasom> specbot: please leave #clnoobs
<jasom> it was worth a try :)
<dlowe> jasom: I'd be impressed.
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<jasom> perhaps it uses a dialect of intercal and I was overly polite
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<dlowe> I would assume that it has an owner with such privileges
<dlowe> invites don't seem to work
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<Shinmera> dlowe: I can send Colleen there, so you can use ::clhs at least (and get logging if you want that kinda thing).
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<dlowe> Shinmera: thanks, I think I've got it covered.
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<Shinmera> Alright
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