#lisp on 2021-01-16 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:16 <Alfr_> Thanks for the input and pointing out satisfies. :)

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00:35 <ludston> Given that I know loop back to front, is it worth learning iter?

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02:00 <albusp> ludston: if you know loop, you already know iter

02:01 <edgar-rft> It's always good to learn new things, but I myself never learned iter, so I don't know if it's really good to listen to my advice here.

02:01 <edgar-rft> ...and ludston has quit long ago...

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04:01 <beach> Good morning everyone!

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04:31 <Josh_2> mornin beach

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06:52 <holycow> anyone here use stumpwm? i'm doing a big of testing in emacs and drawing with code using sketch.

06:53 <holycow> every time sketch draws something new it steals the window focus. anyone know if there is a way to stop the sketch window from setaling focus when emacs sends a live command to draw something to the sketch window?

06:53 <holycow> i assume this must happen in stacking window managers as well

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07:03 <holycow> holy moly. stumpwm has a deny-raise-request variable that solves this problem. wow.

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07:25 <opcode> hi all, newbie question: is there a reason why one might prefer (mapcar) over (map 'list ) or vice-versa?

07:25 <opcode> they seem to do identical things

07:29 <beach> opcode: Yes...

07:29 <beach> opcode: There is a very general rule in programming. You should choose the most specific construct that will do the job.

07:29 <beach> MAPCAR is more specific than MAP.

07:30 <beach> The rule exists to make it faster to understand the code by someone who didn't write it, or by the same person who wrote it, but a few weeks later.

07:30 <opcode> ok but functionality-wise am i correct that they're identical?

07:30 <beach> But that's beside the point.

07:31 <aeth> (map 'list ...) is generic and will work on any sequence as input

07:31 <aeth> mapcar only works on lists as input

07:31 <opcode> ok thanks aeth

07:31 <aeth> If you expect lists, use mapcar. If you are writing a general function on arbitrary input, map 'list might be preferable.

07:32 <aeth> (imo)

07:32 <beach> Exactly.

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08:15 <ldbeth> good afternoon

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08:21 <beach> Hello ldbeth.

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10:58 <luis> phoe (or anyone else): do all Lisps that support package-local-nicknames push :package-local-nicknames to *features* or is it best to check whether the foo:package-local-nicknames symbol exists?

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11:16 <mfiano> luis: I would just do what phoe does in tpln, or better yet, use that

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11:36 <luis> mfiano: I skimmed that and it seemed to simply assume the symbols were present.

11:37 <luis> (well, it contains a test suite that will presumably fail if the functions are undefined)

11:58 <phoe> luis: the feature is there

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17:48 <luis> phoe: in that case, does this look OK? https://github.com/slime/slime/commit/708d9750fff3ade572ec5d156b003fb49335f50e

17:49 <luis> I couldn't get CCL running on Windows, Lispworks isn't released yet, my version of ACL doesn't include package local nicknames yet and... didn't investigate whether I could get Clasp running here. *sigh*

17:49 <phoe> luis: seems OK; just be mindful that LispWorks might not have PLNs before 7.2

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17:51 <luis> phoe: SLIME will be ready then. I've also tweaked the inspector to display package-local nicknames.

17:51 <luis> seemed like a no-brainer

17:51 <Cthulhux> SLY is the better SLIME :p

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17:53 <luis> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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18:02 <phoe> luis: OK, I understand this now - thanks

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18:22 * Xach forks access to sharplispers for now

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18:26 <phoe> Xach: need any help with it?

18:27 <Xach> phoe: it needs to be fixed to build with latest sbcl, i don't know if there's a pr but that would be helpful

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18:30 <Xach> phoe: it's forked, are you up for a pr on https://github.com/sharplispers/access ?

18:30 <phoe> Xach: OK, lemme try doing that.

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18:40 <phoe> Xach: should I file issues against the original, or will you enable issues on the fork?

18:44 <phoe> two PRs filed, one against original, another against sharplispers; please verify and merge

18:47 <Xach> you can't tell me in which order to do such things!!

18:48 <ck_> "Merge First Development", excellent startup idea

18:49 <Xach> phoe: that PR works for me

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18:52 <phoe> Xach: <3

18:52 <phoe> anyway, the test suite is warning

18:52 <phoe> where should I file the issue related to that?

18:56 <Xach> i don't know. what is the warning?

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19:08 <phoe> https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/2240#2240

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20:07 <phoe> seems like a bug of some sort, nothing that is breaking the code

20:07 <phoe> ...until SBCL decides that keywords are illegal type specifiers and that warrants a compile-time warning

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20:08 <phoe> are keywords valid type specifiers though?... (deftype :foo ...) et al

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20:10 <charles`> I personally would avoid that, but what do I know

20:16 <phoe> I'm afraid it's not a question of style, it's a question of conformance

20:16 <phoe> style-wise I'd also avoid it completely

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20:28 <Nilby> :foo

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20:29 <chewb> hello, is anyone here? i need help with setting up this common lisp project https://github.com/wzrdsappr/trading-core

20:30 <chewb> i use portacle on windows

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20:34 <charles`> did you install quicklisp?

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20:38 <chewb> yes i have it

20:39 <chewb> i putted trading-core dir into local-projects and run quicklisp command, it tried to load it, but i get error because file-io system not found

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20:40 <aeth> chewb: That means that it probably has a dependency that's not in Quicklisp

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20:44 <charles`> did you download that one too?

20:45 <chewb> yes

20:45 <chewb> it did started compiling lot of things but get error on swing-breakout step

20:47 <chewb> here is stacktrace

20:47 <chewb> https://bpa.st/7C5Q

20:53 <phoe> chewb: convert the files from Windows to Unix line endings

20:54 <chewb> what do you mean? i havent edited files of this project

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21:01 <phoe> chewb: but you have git cloned them, right?

21:01 <chewb> yes

21:01 <phoe> https://docs.github.com/en/github/using-git/configuring-git-to-handle-line-endings

21:01 <phoe> you'll want to check out Unix line endings

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