00:03 <matterbridge-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> @jbqubit hi

00:37 <cr1901_modern> sb10q: Is the IRC room being "deprecated"?

00:38 <futarisIRCcloud> Where are people moving to?

00:38 <cr1901_modern> futarisIRCcloud: Idk if people are moving

00:39 <cr1901_modern> I just noticed a mattermost bridge appeared today

00:39 <cr1901_modern> and sb0 left the room

00:40 <matterbridge-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> it's not deprecated, I'm just adding options

00:41 <cr1901_modern> well at least it isn't slack (tm).

00:41 <matterbridge-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> haha no

00:41 <matterbridge-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> slack is bloated and proprietary

00:41 <cr1901_modern> and also likes to save itself to swap. Frequently.

00:41 <cr1901_modern> sb10q: Will you be back on IRC at all? How do I privmsg you if necessary (yes I can join the webclient if necessary)

00:42 <matterbridge-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> yeah sure

00:42 <cr1901_modern> okay good, makes things easier for me

00:42 <cr1901_modern> See I'm not a luddite wrt chat protocols

00:43 <cr1901_modern> my issue is that multiple clients _destroys_ my bandwidth, so I have to pick and choose which ones I use

00:43 <cr1901_modern> and ultimately, IRC _still_ is the most important protocol for me to talk to ppl

00:43 <cr1901_modern> _destroys_ my mental* bandwidth, not internet b/w :P

03:01 <matterbridge-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> sb10q updated the channel display name from: Town Square to: Main

03:16 <bb-m-labs> build #2502 of artiq-board is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at https://buildbot.m-labs.hk/builders/artiq-board/builds/2502

03:20 <bb-m-labs> build #2984 of artiq is complete: Failure [failed python_unittest_2] Build details are at https://buildbot.m-labs.hk/builders/artiq/builds/2984 blamelist: Sebastien Bourdeauducq <sb@m-labs.hk>

03:22 <matterbridge-ml> [mattermost] <liqixue12> liqixue12 joined the team.

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04:49 <lkcl> if bridging is going to be deployed can i make a recommendation that the notifications "XYZ joined the team" please be disabled?

04:50 <lkcl> otherwise people will be forced to write a filter program to get rid of what amounts to channel spam

04:55 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> lkcl: I added NoSendJoinPart to the matterbridge options, hopefully that does it

04:55 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> lkcl: yes but many other people don't like IRC, hence, the bridging solution.

05:01 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> we should actually bridge to wechat as well, for that matter

08:17 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <pkulik> pkulik joined the team.

08:36 <attie> doesn't seem to have worked

08:36 <attie> but those messages are only on sign-up so it should quiet down soon

08:37 <attie> certainly less frequent than IRC join/quits

08:49 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <pkulik> @sb10q can I create a dedicated channel to Sayma & Metlino?

08:53 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> @pkulik just use this one for now. if the volume becomes a problem, we'll move to a dedicated channel

08:54 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <pkulik> sure, however this way mattermost doesn't have any advantage over IRC (except maybe nicer formatting)

08:54 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <pkulik> but we'll see if it's going to be used by people

08:55 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> it has backlog, phone apps, pictures, and many other features...

08:55 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> irc also supports multiple channels...

11:25 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <pkulik> is there a way to use microscope with artiq on kasli?

11:30 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> @pkulik microscope needs a UART channel... you could disconnect the main UART (since the logs are available from the network anyway, that will work unless you are debugging some firmware crash) or connect the UART elsewhere

11:32 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <pkulik> ok, I was hoping for a way without disconnecting uart :)

11:32 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> you can also put a USB-UART cable on EEM pins

11:32 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> for microscope

11:32 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> or implement microscope-over-JTAG, but it's more work

12:06 <cr1901_modern> How many ppl are in the bridge right now? 70 ppl is pretty good for an IRC channel :)

12:07 <cr1901_modern> err in the Mattermost chat*, not the bridge.

12:24 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <pkulik> there are 10 members in this chat, however 4 are online

14:00 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <sb10q> testing picture uploadtesting picture upload:

14:04 <travis-ci> oli-obk/smoltcp#1 (patch-1 - b8578e1 : Oliver Scherer): The build passed.

14:04 <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/oli-obk/smoltcp/compare/8333045cbce8...b8578e17de8e

14:04 <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.com/oli-obk/smoltcp/builds/106739732

14:33 <lkcl> thanks sb0

14:34 <lkcl> attie: i use an intelligent plugin to hexchat that monitors login/exits, and instead of a flood of messages it summarises them.

15:54 <mtrbot-ml> [mattermost] <astro> astro joined the team.

17:00 <ZirconiumX> So, after nmigen was mentioned, I took a look at it, and it seems to be a rewrite/redesign of migen. Should I learn migen or nmigen? It'd suck to familiarise myself with the old way and it not work with the new way.

17:01 <whitequark> I'd say nmigen, but I'm biased :)

17:02 <whitequark> nmigen eliminates a lot of pain points in migen, but it's not yet quite complete enough for real-world designs

17:02 <whitequark> however, if you are still learning migen and/or digital logic it'll probably be complete faster than you can learn

17:20 <key2> whitequark: any example of how to generate a inout with nmigen curently ?

17:20 <ZirconiumX> Thanks for the advice, whitequark

17:22 <whitequark> key2: inouts are only supported for instances

17:22 <whitequark> so if you have an instance using io_PACKAGE_PIN=x, then x will become an inout

17:22 <key2> there is an example somewher ?

17:23 <whitequark> you can also do frag.add_ports(foo, dir="io")

17:25 <key2> whitequark: but you have no example anywhere ?

17:27 <whitequark> no

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