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buZz >
i used a external battery charger to charge the battery of my N810
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buZz >
now the N810 doesnt connect to the battery anymore , tabs worn out -_-
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siceloa >
tabs are on battery?
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siceloa >
he reopened it :P
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buZz >
siceloa: yeah :(
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buZz >
guess i should just replace the battery, its as old as the N810
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siceloa >
Those annoying Nokia batteries that last forever. My N-Gage BL-5C still works fine
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enyc >
oh w00t looks like the enter-key nobbling whatnot going through in leste
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enyc >
something committed lately
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siceloa >
can't parse ..
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enyc >
trying to find...
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siceloa >
the issue should have been fixed, if i understood corectly
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enyc >
siceloa: do you have link?
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Entitlement >
enyc - [ Unredirect enter key by IMbackK · Pull Request #2 · maemo-leste/hildon-input-met... ]
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Entitlement >
enyc - [ RX-51: Fix broken UI spec. by spinal84 · Pull Request #1 · maemo-leste-upstream-... ]
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enyc >
I think, the obeve secontd PR now needs dealing with, now the underpinning broken-ui-spec enter-handling been finally removed in H-I-M
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uvos__ >
enyc: that is correct. we schould now be able to unswap kpent. and return
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uvos__ >
Wizzup parazyd ^^^
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enyc >
uvos__: Once thats' done, I should PR the updated n900-hw-keymap having reviewed it (check other languages, comparison to droid4 extended keymap etc.)... I understand daniels/upstream may well accept suitable upstream push once working in leste.
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parazyd >
Will build this for -devel now
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enyc >
parazyd: thankyou! How can I best test? -- new leste image and add -devel ? update older install (many months old) via apt-get update and dist-upgrade should be ok?
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parazyd >
Whatever of those two you prefer
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enyc >
okies, another day in any case! =)
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parazyd >
Perhaps a fresh image is good, so you can tell us if it's broken :)
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enyc >
parazyd: in which case, when/where is next image created ?
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parazyd >
Yesterday
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Entitlement >
parazyd - [ Directory Index - Maemo Leste ]
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parazyd >
(They're built every sunday)
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enyc >
parazyd: n900 image seems to work... added leste 'beowulf-devel' repo which then adds many pkgs etc.
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parazyd >
Yeah, I will do some package promotion these days
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Entitlement >
uvos - [ Vim is not usable inside screen / tmux sessions · Issue #500 · maemo-leste/bugtr... ]
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enyc >
updates, I should say, including xkb-data
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uvos >
yeah you should get a new xkb-data
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enyc >
uvos: could try locally... ssh maybe too
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enyc >
remind me of root / user default passwords
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uvos >
just use passwd user and set it
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Entitlement >
uvos - [ Enter doesn't work in terminal if the terminal is started quickly after boot · I... ]
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uvos >
both should be fixed with my recent input patches
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enyc >
I observe (previously very useful!!!) ctrl + <- not working, used to get app-chooser!
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enyc >
used that extensively
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Entitlement >
uvos - [ leste-config/shortcuts.ini.leste at master · maemo-leste/leste-config · GitHub ]
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uvos >
i pushed the wrong config file
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parazyd >
user:user ; root:toor
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uvos >
enyc: please addd LeftButton=<ctrl><backspace> to that file
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uvos >
ill fix it soon
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enyc >
uvos: hrrm that shortcuts.ini fix LeftButton does not seem to work... will leav that to you =)
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enyc >
even rebooted fully
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enyc >
GOOD news is that enter behaviour in xterm AND osso-xterm seems to be FIXED, finally got rid of that silly-broken-swap whatnot =)
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enyc >
trying to test screen+vim
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uvos >
enyc: its LeftButton=<ctrl>BackSpace
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uvos >
and you only need to killall hildon-desktop
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uvos >
reboot works to ofc
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enyc >
uvos: tat works...
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enyc >
also the screen + vim WORKS too in both xterm and osso-xterm
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uvos >
great thanks for testing
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enyc >
Strongly think that was being affected by the silly keymap enter swap too
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parazyd >
oh that's good news
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uvos >
parazyd: all the input related bugs are fixed now
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Entitlement >
uvos - [ Hildon-input-method further fixes needed [key-swap, vkb key control] · Issue #31... ]
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enyc >
double checking the #316 now myself
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parazyd >
ok, I'll do that tomorrow
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enyc >
uvos: not sure about this enter key soon after boot
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enyc >
suspect that no longer issue either
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uvos >
no thats fixed
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enyc >
ok what bout vkb activation ?
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uvos >
what about it?
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enyc >
are there any issues with taht not possible any more ?
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uvos >
enyc: its possible
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uvos >
enyc in fact you can bind it to any key now
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Entitlement >
uvos - [ leste-config/shortcuts.ini.leste at master · maemo-leste/leste-config · GitHub ]
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Entitlement >
uvos - [ Hildon-input-method further fixes needed [key-swap, vkb key control] · Issue #31... ]
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parazyd >
Is 361 also fixed on the VM?
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uvos >
parazyd: its fixed in all cases
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Entitlement >
enyc - [ Index of /~enyc/n900-kbd ]
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uvos >
the reason for this was that libhim applications dident process enter at all, then instead just sent enter to him wich just sent enter back via a hilodn only interface
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uvos >
so enter never worked at all if him was not running
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uvos >
like on vm in some cases and during boot before him finished starting
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enyc >
uvos: I should fix the dvorak-variant (I'm dvorak user on big keyboard) and consider basics on other languages e.g. german.
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enyc >
**NB I'm wondering if I can see graphically Droid4 keyboard and current leste keymap update for it... like to have 2 things take similar principles or so.
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enyc >
I don't have a droid4 either, maybe somebody would furnish me heh =)
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enyc >
aanndd... just when I get all that sorted-out, n900 battery conks out!
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enyc >
hey-ho good timing
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enyc >
uvos: curious what you make of keymap above -- is SOO much better being able to press <> | % ~ ^ Tab and much more besides...
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parazyd >
enyc: Is there some way we can dynamically provide the keymaps?
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parazyd >
Like, have multiple installed on the system and let the user choose?
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enyc >
parazyd: well, they can be different e.g. setxkbmap dvorak
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enyc >
however, the map above is 100% backwards compatible i.e. not breaking existing
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enyc >
just adds extra combos
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parazyd >
Also works in all languages?
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enyc >
parazyd: well, some languages may override keys and not have all the benefit i.e. I may want to review some
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enyc >
parazyd: what this does is update the english_base upon which many others are ... based
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enyc >
if some other language changes a base key it may also lose an 'extra' key in that overridden key sort of thing
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parazyd >
Would be good to test it
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enyc >
curious what is going on with debian/devuan versions, will leste change to chimaera any time soon?
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parazyd >
enyc: Devuan is now building chimarea images and installers, but it's still not "codename stable"
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parazyd >
We won't be going over at least until then, and probably a bit later
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enyc >
okies... my debian bullseye / devuan chimaera 's seem good fwiw
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enyc >
appreciate this takes time etc!
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parazyd >
Yeah desktops/servers are fine
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parazyd >
But we have a lot of code that can't be used in Devuan testing now
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enyc >
I got impression chimaera should be not long after bullseye,
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enyc >
parazyd: because? oldlibs?
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parazyd >
The entire glib and gconf-based codebase
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parazyd >
We'll have to port this
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enyc >
uerm ... forard-port the old tools?
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enyc >
or change to new conf whatnot?
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parazyd >
Everything in our software that uses gconf (and it's a lot) will have to be ported to GSettings & co.
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parazyd >
And some other stuff too I can't remember fully atm because it's late
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enyc >
what about gtk and qt versions?
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parazyd >
I believe gtk2 still stays in Devuan testing
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enyc >
uvos: especially pleased to see the annoying-key-swap FINALLY die =)
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enyc >
seemed to be confusing many people!
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parazyd >
I'm working on a libhildon gtk3 port btw, and Wizzup almost finished qt5
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enyc >
much consternation who needs to check and so on
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siceloa >
nice to know devuan testing still has gtk2 :p
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parazyd >
uvos: Did you manage to build that email client in extras btw?
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uvos >
parazyd: yeah its in there
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uvos >
should be in ha,
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parazyd >
Yeah I see it :)
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