<houkime>
u802 - wrong footprint with wrong number of pins again. needs to be qfn21 3x3 but there is no such fp. Guess DIY again. Although that is a standard one, mb can be found/generated for free (unlike murata 1.7 mm switch that i had to do by png conversion).
<houkime>
gonna do it tomorrow. Now sleep time.
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<enyc>
houkime: hrrrm, have you been seconded to the layout team or so? ;-)
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<houkime>
enyc: this "layout team" now consists mostly of me as I understand. Because nobody have done anything on it since october or so.
<enyc>
houkime: this is good news there IS a layouter =)
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<enyc>
houkime: at sempo intoitnt hopefull ythis can lead to a news-articel etc.?
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<houkime>
idk. For now I'm just rechecking and syncing stuff. Will be done with syncing today I hope. Then I'll need to solve a placing puzzle and then (only then, unlike metacollin) do routing.
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<enyc>
houkime: right, yes, good =)
<enyc>
houkime: sync'ing 'sa in, synich with upstream cheanges to definitions of footprints and whatever?
<houkime>
enyc: primarily just syncing between pcb, footprints and schematics. Some errors like wrong pin numbers, pin counts etc leading to inconsistent netlist.
<enyc>
good, good to have difeferent eyes to the same problem etc.
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<houkime>
U1301 symbol broken for editor.
<houkime>
idk if kicad will fix it or symbols need to be fixed
<houkime>
also it is not displaying his exp pin. adding to TODO.
<houkime>
(which kinda means that this part won;t be gronded in the netlist until fixed.)
<houkime>
*grounded
<houkime>
I guess I will need to recheck every single element again if such stuff happens.
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<houkime>
u1301 ok. me silly.
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<Joerg-Neo900>
[2018-04-05 Thu 19:49:10] <Joerg-Neo900> #get the URLof the pdf datasheet for a silego product, input searchstring as parameter, return URL via stdout
<Joerg-Neo900>
[2018-04-05 Thu 19:49:10] <Joerg-Neo900> #v1.01 JR
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<houkime>
created new fp for r-xbga-N6. The most beautiful fp I created, but only with the power of text editing.
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<houkime>
need to upgrade fped to support my dark widgets+white text, otherwise can't see a thing. Navigation in fped is also too poor for it to be usable..
<houkime>
for now manual text editing.
<Joerg-Neo900>
you're using fped? nice :-)
<houkime>
I tried to use it, but man this is an ergonomic nightmare.
<Joerg-Neo900>
netacollin used his own tools for making the footprints, aiui
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<Joerg-Neo900>
yeah, fped has a steep learning curve and no "the UI is self explanatory"
<Joerg-Neo900>
the readme helped a lot for me approaching fped
<Joerg-Neo900>
also you need to build from upstream. what distros deliver as fped is bitrotten to the bones
<Joerg-Neo900>
~fped
<Joerg-Neo900>
hmmm
<houkime>
arch does not deliver fped other than in the form of a git AUR pack, so building from upstream is automatical and is the only option
<houkime>
love arch.
<Joerg-Neo900>
hmm, please check you actually pull the latest version from the right git
<Joerg-Neo900>
no idea about arch here
<atk>
from git://projects.qi-hardware.com/fped.git
<Joerg-Neo900>
yup
<atk>
so that would be whatever master is on on that branch
<Joerg-Neo900>
ta atk
<atk>
s/branch/repo/
<Joerg-Neo900>
~fped is git://projects.qi-hardware.com/fped.git
<infobot>
okay, Joerg-Neo900
<houkime>
yep, AUR pack is using qi-hardware, all correct.
<houkime>
though they have graphical issues I would like to fix. And many other things I would like to fix.
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<houkime>
almost synced. finally. No more stuff to be included. Checking and removing/replacing anything extra in pcb layout file.
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<ravelo>
Great
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<houkime>
now that I'm thinking on it, I woould like to reimplement fped using Godot game engine.
<atk>
that seems like... an interesting option
<houkime>
this will automatically solve lots of problems, ease development and give it a super-modern look.
<houkime>
godot editor itself was written as a godot game.
<atk>
"super-modern look" - please no
<atk>
In my experience "super-modern look" == "super useless software"
<DocScrutinizer05>
hehehe
* atk
has nightmares about this crap called slack and jira
<houkime>
I mean it can be visually like altium or sth.
<houkime>
or blender.
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<atk>
I do like how blender looks
<atk>
but thankfully it doesn't look like these modern webapps
<atk>
it looks unique
<atk>
I am not one of those weird people who wants their entire operating system to look identical
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<houkime>
I need widgets to be dark or gray, otherwise eyes hurt much more even on low brightness, so I enforced dark gtk and qt themes across system. But that's it.
<houkime>
dark kicad looks kinda stylish.
<houkime>
biggest ergonomical problems with kicad is that you can't dock eeschema inside pcbnew and when there are some dialogs in any of 3 windows, all 3 become locked instead of 1.
<houkime>
for example i can't use eeschema with open read netlist dialog to assess state of symbols producing errors. etc.
<houkime>
omg my english.
<crox>
houkime, I don't think I have this issue (on Linux)
<houkime>
hmmm... interesting. Will check bug reports on this when i have time.
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<houkime>
wwan pads. They are not in sch and from phs tech docs it seems like phs doesn't need then to have it's hspa.
<houkime>
why could they be there... hmmm. rechecking.
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<houkime>
antenna connector is not yet placed, it is not even footprinted beyond 3 free pads. but wwan pads are.
<houkime>
ok seems like they should be the same thing
<houkime>
though not clear what are real requirements on placement. Did metacollin place them in their final externally fixed place or not. hm.
<houkime>
ok, he locked their position so it means that this is final. ok.
<houkime>
updating references on antenna connector pads so that they are addressed by sch correctly.
<Joerg-Neo900>
antenna connectors are C-springs
<Joerg-Neo900>
we have no particular type for those yet, afaik. Except the ones used in N900
<Joerg-Neo900>
thus we have no datasheet for them either
<Joerg-Neo900>
feel free to find and suggest a spring component that matches
<Joerg-Neo900>
(disclaimer: IIRC)
<Joerg-Neo900>
it's starting to get a tad tough to keep *everytjing* in mind for such an extended period of inactive time
<houkime>
you source only cases+screens of N900 without other parts?
<houkime>
+keyboards
<Joerg-Neo900>
no, the plan is to source a number of other stuff too, like camera, C-springs maybe, don't know what else
<Joerg-Neo900>
and we actually source complete N900
<Joerg-Neo900>
you can't source displays
<Juesto>
hows that
<houkime>
then it is economical to use legacy c-springs unless they are proven by layout to be too big or have other problems.
<houkime>
however then there will probably be no datasheet which is sad.
<Joerg-Neo900>
C-springs are such a silly simple component we didn't give much worries to them
<Joerg-Neo900>
footprint is pretty much arbitrary rectangular pad, no matter which type of C-spring
<Joerg-Neo900>
Juesto: I don't know how's that, I just know we found it a fact
<Juesto>
oh :/
<houkime>
ok.
<houkime>
Is there info on their required placement spots? FM pad seems hanging over the edge not sure if this is nice.
<Joerg-Neo900>
this is not intentional
<Joerg-Neo900>
there are placement infos in werner's 2.5D-scans
<houkime>
ok
<Joerg-Neo900>
also v1 been meant as mechanical proof and placement of C-sprinfs been one aspect iirc. So for all placement V1 is authoritative
<Joerg-Neo900>
>>Springs are indicated by rounded rectangles or circles, the location where they touch (e.g., pad, shield, or similar) by a regular rectangle. <<