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<psquid> So I'm trying to play with bitstring, but I've been unable to load the syntax extension in the toplevel (or utop, which I prefer), and some cursory searching suggests that's a known problem, but the last posts are all from ~2012, and mostly talking about OCaml 3.x. So what I was wondering is, does anyone know if that's now possible, or is it still a case of only being able to use the syntax extensions when
<psquid> compiling?
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<f[x]> psquid, META is broken, but you can workaround it
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<f[x]> #camlp4o;;
<f[x]> #require "bitstring.syntax";;
<f[x]> let f x = bitmatch x with { rest : -1 : bitstring } -> rest;;
<psquid> f[x]: Ah, I see now. The "cannot find file" message (referring to bitstring/unix.cma) on #require'ing didn't actually prevent me using it (should've checked, d'oh!), but does somehow prevent it from being suggested by utop's completions thingy. Odd, but workable.
<psquid> Thanks! :)
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<whitequark> jpdeplaix: I've just checked and bytecode executables work fine for me
<whitequark> what error do you get?
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<jpdeplaix> whitequark: Error: Error on dynamically loaded library: ~/.opam/4.01.0/lib/llvm/./dllllvm.so: libLLVM-3.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<whitequark> jpdeplaix: I think this needs to be fixed with -rpath...
<whitequark> I'll look into what I can do
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<whitequark> jpdeplaix: ok, I think I fixed this in trunk
<whitequark> it now should work without any changes to the opam recipe
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<whitequark> and without any nonstandard env vars
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<jpdeplaix> whitequark: ok. I'll try later
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<rixed> If I add a compiler in my opam private (& local) repository, and run opam update then opam switch list, shouldn't I see the new compiler?
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<whitequark> how can I send https requests with ocaml?
<whitequark> emphasis on ssl, async can't do that apparently :/
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<whitequark> rks`: thanks
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<rixed> never mind, appaenrlty opam list don't show compilers which name is too long... :-/
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<Drup> rixed: -a
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<Drup> ( rixed : and the answer to the previous question is yes)
<Drup> whitequark: more simple than bloated ocamlnet, you can use cohttp
<adrien_oww> "bloat"?
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<Drup> that's my opinion, you have the right to disagree :p
<ousado> which SSL implementation does cohttp use?
<adrien_oww> bloat is compared to the problem to be solved :)
<whitequark> turns out cohttp can do ssl with lwt
<whitequark> and I kinda wanted to use lwt anyway
<adrien_oww> but I'm happy that in the ocaml world, "bloat" is defined by ocamlnet
<rixed> Drup: nice, thanks! Any idea of what's the selection criteria for a compiler to enter the short list?
<Drup> rixed: I think it's only "regular" version of the compiler
<Drup> plus the one you have instaled
<rixed> Drup: yeah, probably the ones that already were installed in the past (since some of my custom made comps are listed).
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<ousado> hm.. openssl it is
<Drup> adrien : I'm not sure to get what you want to say =')
<adrien> that's an old webkit:
<adrien> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24M Sep 9 2012 /usr/lib64/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0.13.4*
<adrien> if ocamlnet is roughly the definition of bloat in the ocaml world, then I think we don't have much to complain about
<Drup> I was talking more about structural complexity than size, but yeah, that's quite right
<adrien> it's a framework more than a lib, that's all
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<Drup> adrien : I agree, that's why using it as a lib is a bit weird, imo. It should be decomposed in smaller parts.
<Drup> there is a ton of cool stuff in it, but it's too tightly fused together.
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<adrien> Drup: I too wish it were made of smaller and independent components but I can't tell how doable that actually is
<Drup> adrien : I prefer not to think of why a PCRE engine would be so coupled to a webserver and a mutlicore library than you have to use all of them at once.
<adrien> equeue?
<Drup> not convincing, you can still separate and have dependencies. you don't have to pack everything in one
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<adrien> but it's not very useful if for each new version of lib X, you need a new version of lib Y
<Drup> it is, you can still only take one of the small piece
<adrien> agreed but the cost of maintaining > 10 libs is noticeable
<adrien> I wonder if you can still link against individual cmxa and not pull equeue for instance
<Drup> I know, I have done some stuff for ocsigen :)
<sgnb> ocamlnet? bloat?
<sgnb> then what's all the camlp4* binaries?
<sgnb> (or coq theories for that matter)
<Drup> sgnb: "I was talking more about structural complexity than size"
<Drup> (but camlp4 still does have a crazy structural complexity)
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<adrien> :)
<jpdeplaix> whitequark: can you also commit your fix on the branch release_34 ?
<whitequark> jpdeplaix: that will be done
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<kkielak> hello everybody
<ollehar> hi
<kkielak> i'm still looking for a way to force merlin to look for the symbols in set of files not just the one that i'm viewing in vim, anybody?
<kkielak> :)
<rks`> kkielak: hi!
<kkielak> hi rks`
<kkielak> rks`: i wrote to merlin maintainers, but no luck with the answer... yet
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<rks`> kkielak: 1/ did you look at https://github.com/def-lkb/merlin/wiki/vim-from-scratch#source-browsing ? 2/ If you did and still have a problem. Could you be he a bit more precise?
<rks`> kkielak: well, you didn't mail all of them, I never received any mail :p
<kkielak> of course I was looking at the wiki
<rks`> ok, good :)
<kkielak> rks` i've mailed the man listed in source code ...
<kkielak> rks`: anyway, after installing merling through opam and adding lines to .vimrc
<rks`> yes?
<kkielak> rks`: i can issue :Locate from vim and it works, but only for currently open file
<kkielak> rks`: i dont have any .merlin file at the moment, but adding one in the project root dir haven't change anything
<rks`> ok so
<rks`> what are you using to compile your project?
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<kkielak> hmmm i was not compiling any project, I just wanted to browse the source of mldonkey
<rks`> ok
<kkielak> i installed opam and ocaml 4.01.0
<kkielak> with opam switch ...
<rks`> well, if you want to have informations project wide, you need to compile the project
<rks`> and if you want to be able to use :Locate you need to compile with the -bin-annot compilation flag
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<rks`> (you might need to tweak mldonkeys makefile to add this flag at the relevant places)
<kkielak> ok ... do you think that normal make from mldonkey should be enough
<kkielak> with flags of course
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<kkielak> ok i'll check and if i'll have any problems i'll try to catch you :)
<kkielak> thanks
<rks`> ok :)
<rks`> you're welcome
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<dead`> hello, I'm trying to build core using opam, but I get "Fatal error: exception Out_of_memory" while building core_kernel
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<dead`> I have more than 2 GB of free memory during the build process, any pointers on solving this?
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<ousado> dead`: is that a 32 bit system?
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<dead`> ousado: 64 bit
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<ousado> dead`: http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/manual-ocaml-4.00/manual024.html suggests OCAMLRUNPARAM="v=63"
<ousado> I don't know whether that's usable with the compiler
<ousado> but I'd guess so
<adrien> how long has your system been running for?
<dead`> I've tried rebooting it and then running 'opam install core'
<dead`> ousado: thanks, I'll give this a try
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<ericbmerritt> I have a small project seperated out into several modules. They all depend on a small number of types. To avoid mutual recursion I have moved those types into thier own module that get opened in the modules that use them. In the module that serves as the main entrypoint, it just renames them.
<ericbmerritt> well, not renames, aliases is perhaps the better term
<ericbmerritt> is there a better way to handle this?
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<jpdeplaix> whitequark: can you help me one an llvm assert ?
<jpdeplaix> while compiling a test, LLVM asserts here: https://github.com/jpdeplaix/cervoise/blob/master/src/backend.ml#L152
<jpdeplaix> with this error message: « … include/llvm/Support/Casting.h:250: typename llvm::cast_retty<X, Y*>::ret_type llvm::cast_or_null(Y*) [with X = llvm::Constant; Y = llvm::Value; typename llvm::cast_retty<X, Y*>::ret_type = llvm::Constant*]: Assertion `isa<X>(Val) && "cast_or_null<Ty>() argument of incompatible type!"' failed.
<jpdeplaix> »
<jpdeplaix> with*
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<Pluggi`> Hi, I got a problem with menhir
<Pluggi`> I declared a token ID like this : %token <string> ID
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<Pluggi`> but when I do separated_nonempty_list(COMMA, ID), menhir returns a 'a list
<Pluggi`> How could I do to get a string list
<Pluggi`> (because 'a list returns a type error)
<jpdeplaix> whitequark: alright I got it. Thanks anyways
<orbitz> companion_cube: sometimes these prop tests are hard to right
<orbitz> write
<companion_cube> yes, indeed
<orbitz> Not sure if that means i'm testing something whos impl is too hard
<orbitz> just annoying
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<companion_cube> is it the property that is hard, or the generator?
<orbitz> the property, generator is easy. unless i'm doing something really wrong
<fds> Does anyone feel like criticisng this code to parse propositional logic: http://pastebin.com/Kg7hpgGf ?
<fds> I should say that I don't know much OCaml and the code was (loosely) based on SML code by Lawrence Paulson.
<companion_cube> orbitz: then it should just be a test :/
<orbitz> companion_cube: I need tons of random input though
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<orbitz> but i've rewritten this prop test from scratch now, I just need to figure out what meaningful thing to put into the "do fake work here" section
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<bjorkintosh> has anyone installed opam on ubuntu 13.10?
<bjorkintosh> i'm getting an unmet dependencies error for ocaml-base-3.0.10
<bjorkintosh> oops.
<bjorkintosh> 4.01.0
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<bjorkintosh> hmm. works fine on the other machine. must be a silly error.
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<whitequark> jpdeplaix: heh I was sleeping
<whitequark> but you're welcome. it's nice to know you can help people even then! :p
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