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<zhumatthew> is this the same as irc.freenode?
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<Kakadu> zhumatthew: no, it's one many channels on irc.freenode.net
<Kakadu> one of*
<zhumatthew> I meant is chat.freenode.net the same as irc.freenode.net
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<Drup> zhumatthew: yes
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<flux> hmm, in BatInnerWeaktbl, are the keys, values or both, weak?
<flux> the documentation really doesn't say much other than it's a weak hash table implementation
<companion_cube> since it's Inner I guess it's not documented :/
<flux> what does the Inner really mean? maybe at least that should be documented in the .mli ;-)
<flux> the module suggests that it should be called Weaktbl
<companion_cube> that it's an internal module :p
<flux> but no such module exists
<flux> so it gives an impression that it has leaked through the cracks, avoiding some renaming..
<flux> where does batteries make use of it? Enum maybe?-o
<companion_cube> IO, I think
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<companion_cube> (there is a weakset somewhere in IO.input and IO.output)
* adrien wonders where companion_cube's patch is
<companion_cube> ?
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<adrien> for the aforementionned issue :P
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<companion_cube> I think IO needs quite a lot of cleanup, indeed :p
<jpdeplaix> :)
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<sagotch> ola
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<sagotch> I am running a strange compilation issue (I am not anymore, but I do not understand how I solved it.)
<sagotch> I pasted code here : http://pastebin.com/VcC5cm6R
<sagotch> moving a function from a "let rec ... and..." to a "let ...;; let rec .... solved a type issue
<sagotch> first part of my code says:
<sagotch> File "src/pprint.ml", line 15, characters 33-47: Error: This expression has type bool -> string but an expression was expected of type string * TypeTo.tomlEntrie -> string Type bool is not compatible with type string * TypeTo.tomlEntrie
<sagotch> does someone see any reason why including the string_of_list function in mutually recursive declarations broke my function?
<rom1504_> what's @@ ?
<rom1504_> never needed that
<sagotch> it has been included in ocaml 4
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<sagotch> allow you "not to put all parenthese"
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<sagotch> f @@ a @@ b c is f (a (b c))
<rom1504_> ok
<rom1504_> what's line 15 ?
<rom1504_> (in your paste bin it's an empty line)
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<rom1504_> string_of_bool is also new in ocaml 4 ?
<rom1504_> never saw that either
<flux> hmm, this simple Future module seems quite useful for passing simple pieces of information around threads. https://github.com/eras/tgup/blob/master/future.mli
<rom1504_> (had to do if b then "true" else "false" before)
<flux> basically a value that is either unset or set, and it can be set once to a value. it can have callbacks. it can be waited upon synchronously. it can be mapped. a bunch of them can be waited at the same time (not included in that version)
<rom1504_> sagotch: it seems like it can't guess right the type of string_of_list
<sagotch> ligne 15 is actually l17 in pastebin
<rom1504_> hard to say more precisely without being able to actually test to compile (and change things to see what happen)
<rom1504_> yeah i figured that
<sagotch> and no idea for string_of_bool, I just tried it
<rom1504_> it somehow things l is a list of string * TypeTo.tomlEntrie
<sagotch> If you want to compile it, it is part of https://github.com/sagotch/To.ml
<rom1504_> *think
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<sagotch> but I can not figure out why moving it outside of the mutually recursive declaration solve the type problem
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<rom1504> yeah I don't know either, it shouldn't do that
<rom1504> (I can't compile, I have ocaml 3.12 :\)
<bernardofpc> adrien: I got something in the toplevel, I was wondering if it was possible to display de UI (and click, interact, ...) while on the toplevel and then perhaps include another element and (somehow) have it updated without re-creating everything
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<bernardofpc> </Weekend lag>
<adrien> I was away anyway :P
<adrien> you need to keep track of the elements one way or the other
<adrien> maybe you can do it with gtk: children of widgets and their children and...
<adrien> but that's quite tedious; having ocaml values is nicer
<adrien> another way is to use something glade-based
<bernardofpc> glade is going to give me the static UI only
<bernardofpc> (the functions have to be coded elsewhere)
<bernardofpc> I was wondering (hoping?) that somehow I could add some callback to a button (for example) on the toplevel, and if I'm unhappy with it, remove and bind another
<adrien> yeah, sure, as long as you can still access the button
<bernardofpc> while having the UI "run" inside the toplevel, so that I can see the behaviour of the button when I click it
<adrien> is your issue that you can't interact with the toplevel while the UI is running?
<bernardofpc> yeah
<adrien> you need to enable threading support
<adrien> hold on
<bernardofpc> ok
<adrien> # #use "topfind";;
<adrien> # #thread;;
<adrien> # #require "lablgtk2.auto-init";;
<adrien> that should do it
<adrien> findlib <3
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<bernardofpc> okey, I'll try
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<bernardofpc> adrien: should I lounch it with GMain.Main.main () ?
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<bernardofpc> or should I use Thread.$magic_command GMain.Main.main () ?
<bernardofpc> (and it's not Thread.create, this makes even Ctrl-C resposeless :/)
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<Drup> bernardofpc: afaik, it's handle by the "auto-init" subpackage already
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<bernardofpc> with utop-1.10 (Ocaml 4.01.0) GMain.Main.main () ;; will not give me back the prompt
<bernardofpc> (I used adrien's order of commands)
<adrien> bernardofpc: neither!
<adrien> well
<adrien> GtkThread.main
<adrien> (details are in the README or on the website)
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<seliopou> avsm i took your advice and picked up an opam directory with the jane street libs in it
<seliopou> worked like a charm
<avsm> seliopou: yep just forwarded to opam-devel (cced nate as i dont have your email)
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<avsm> seliopou: we should be able to generate PPAs from any set of OPAM packages pretty easily. I think that's worth integrating onto Launchpad, so I'll take a look when I get a chance
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<seliopou> cool! yeah that'd be awesome
<avsm> the SUSE open build service is kind of amazing (builds debs and rpms for the most obscure architectures), but the UI is opaque :-/
<seliopou> avsm: that's pretty much the defining characteristic of a build system
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<avsm> sigh
<seliopou> D:
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<arj> anyone has an idea why Curses.getstr : string -> err instead of unit -> string * err or something? Anyone has an idea how to actually get the string that was read? The original c function has signature getstr(*char readstring); (cf. http://www.nongnu.org/ocaml-tmk/doc/Curses.html#VALgetstr and http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NCURSES-Programming-HOWTO/scanw.html#GETSTRCLASS)
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<Drup> arj: I'm not going to answer the question (because, honestly, I don't know) but do you *have* to use ncurse, or would you use another terminal "graphical" library ?
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<arj> sure, any lib would be fine. I only know curses, to be honest. What lib would you suggest?
<arj> Drup
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<Drup> lambdaTerm is really nice
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<Drup> I tried to use ncurses too, because that's the first one I encountered, and it's just too crappy. LambdaTerm is nicer in every aspect
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<arj> Drup: well then, thanks for the hint!
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<Drup> no problem, I can relate, I struggled with ncurse for a while too =')
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<Drup> (here is the link : https://github.com/diml/lambda-term)
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<Drup> I didn't find the documentation online, but you can generate it easily with "make doc"
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<clan> hi, i have a "type state = State of (int list)". how can I append to the list?
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<Drup> clan: just pattern match again the element of type state
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<Drup> let f (State l) = do_something_with_l
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<Drup> against*
<clan> thanks
<arj> Drup: so I finally have to learn lwt :-p
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<Drup> arj: and even React, if you want to :)
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<arj> and the O part of OCaml as well ^^ didn't use that so far...
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<Drup> there is several way to do stuff in lambda-term, you don't need to use the widget thingies
<Drup> (even if it's quite convenientto use, when the problem allows it)
<arj> well maybe this is a good opportunity to learn the O.
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<companion_cube> Drup: does lambda-term make it easy to have several text "zones"?
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<companion_cube> such as the input line, and the logs of an irc client
<Drup> yes
<Drup> companion_cube: utop is written with lambda term
<Drup> (more than that, lambda-term was written for utop)
<Drup> (afaik, at least)
<companion_cube> I mean, in such a way that the "log" part can be updated without erasing the user's input ^^
<Drup> yes
<Drup> I'm (slowly) working on a lambda-term version of ocp-browse that will solve a good amount of issues and I'm doing the exact same thing. :)
<companion_cube> I'll have to take a look some day
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<Drup> companion_cube: and you can do FRP with it, and it's cool. :D
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<clan> hi, i have a problem about pattern matching. my code is let rec lookup sigma l =
<clan> match sigma with
<clan> emptyState -> raise UndefinedLocation
<clan> | State (loc, val)::sigma' -> if loc == l then val else lookup sigma' l
<clan> let rec lookup sigma l =
<clan> match sigma with
<clan> emptyState -> raise UndefinedLocation
<clan> | State (loc, val)::sigma' -> if loc == l then val else lookup sigma' l
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<clan> i got Error: Syntax error: pattern expected. on the last line
<clan> type state is defined as type state = State of ((loc*int) list)
<Drup> could you pastbin it somwhere ? IRC is not very convient for code like that
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<clan> oh sure
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<Drup> so, the issue here is that you can't pattern match against a value
<Drup> emptyState is a value, not a constructor
<Drup> you could pattern match against "State []"
<Drup> because those are constructors
<clan> oh i see
<Drup> but you can't define shortcuts for patterns
<Drup> maybe, one day, we will be able to do that, but not for now :)
<clan> thanks a lot
<Drup> no problem
<nicoo> Drup: let-patterns ftw !
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<orbitz> Hello, does anyone understand waht Harper is talking about dynamic classification when comparing SML to Ocaml exceptions here http://existentialtype.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/exceptions-are-shared-secrets/ ?
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<companion_cube> I guess it's because if a module hides an internal exception, no function from other modules can catch it
<companion_cube> I mean, catch this exception and not just any exception
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<smondet> companion_cube: and what does SML instead?
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<bernardofpc> adrien_oww: with lablgtk2 -thread I have windows that appear immediately, but not with utop + things
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