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<caseyjames> This gives me an illegial option --m, any ideas? find -mindepth 2 -maxdepth 2 -type d | while read dir; do mv -T "$dir" "`dirname "$dir"`/`basename "$dir" | sed "s/[rR].*$/MIC_A/i"`"; done
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<philtor> I do an 'opam upgrade' and it wants to downgrade 34 packages.
<philtor> Why is that?
<philtor> 1 to install | 59 to reinstall | 3 to upgrade | 34 to downgrade | 0 to remove
<philtor> Do you want to continue ? [Y/n]
<philtor> I said 'n' as I didn't want to downgrade so many packages.
<philtor> Any ideas?
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<sagotch> If I may ask for and advice: I wrote a functor `writer`, asking for antother module (defining simple writing function, the resulting functor is suppose to have only one function combining these functions), and I want to //parametrize// it with a `config` value which is basicaly a hsahtabl (I know this value at the time I use the functor), but I can find how to do it
<sagotch> Should I go for a object instead of a module ?
<sagotch> Am I missing something I tried decalring config as a parameter of functor, I tried using `with val config = c` when creating module, but it does not compile at all
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<sagotch> I other words : how to initialize a value when creating a module (there is a default dummy value to avoid signature mismatch)
<sagotch> Is it something were are not supposed to do with modules?
<ggole> You can do that with first class modules
<ggole> But it may be cleaner to just use a record or object.
<sagotch> any example I see to parametrize a module is only parametrizing it with type, but never with value
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<ggole> Those are probably functors. First-class modules let you construct modules dynamically, which seems like it is what you want.
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<sagotch> Can't find a solution, I'll try to go for an object, thank you anyway
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<companion_cube> o/
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<Kakadu> \o
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<sagotch> can't you define a method in object ... end using usual let foo = ... ? In order to use it as a private method and without using self#
<sagotch> a function*
<companion_cube> if you don't need self, you can probably define the function before the object
<companion_cube> with a let..in
<sagotch> the trick is that I am using an attribute of the object, so I can not
<companion_cube> method foo a b c = let f = .... in f a b c ? :D
<sagotch> but I will need to write self#foo?
<companion_cube> hmmm
<companion_cube> I suppose the function needs be a method in order to use the object's attributes
<sagotch> there must be a good reason for not allowing let declarations in objects, but I miss it now
<companion_cube> maybe because if you update the object (via {< foo with ... >}, I think) the methods must refer to the new object's attributes/methods
<companion_cube> that late binding
<gasche> can't you just make the function an attribute?
<companion_cube> o/ gasche
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<sagotch> I'll make it a private attribute indeed
<sagotch> but code would be lighter without the self# thing everywhere
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<gasche> sagotch: I don't understand, you don't have to use self# to refer to an attribute, it's the method call syntax
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<sagotch> oh, I thought "method"
<sagotch> defining it as val -> Error: The instance variable buffer cannot be accessed from the definition of another instance variable
<sagotch> I am jsut defining a alias `val add_string = Buffer.add_string buffer`
<sagotch> I should be able to fix it using an accessor
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<sagotch> I actually cannot `Error: The instance variable self cannot be accessed from the definition of another instance variable` (btw, sorry if my questions are dummy, I never used object in OCaml before today)
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<kaustuv> Which is "more" "canonical"? http://opam.ocaml.org or http://opam.ocamlpro.com? (Or are they just mirrors of each other?) The latter URL still has a higher Google PageRank, and http://opam.ocaml.org/about.html still gives the impression that it is an OCamlPro product ("is created and maintained by >..")
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<kaustuv> Hmm, the contents of the two URLs do seem to be different.
<Drup> the first is the one for users
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<Drup> the second is more ocp advertising
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<kerneis> https://opam.ocaml.org is the new official repo
<Drup> and it's still true that ocp created and maintain opam =)
<kerneis> since opam 1.1.1
<flux> the latter links to the first one
<kaustuv> kerneis: thanks
<kaustuv> I'm not denying that OCamlPro created and maintain it, but there is a lot of community input in the packages repository at least, so it makes me feel better if it were free of corporate branding
<kaustuv> But I can live with a tiny ocamlpro logo at the bottom of opam.ocaml.org
<kerneis> most people feel that way, I guess that's why ocamlpro moved it to ocaml.org
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<kerneis> but they had to wait for wide adoption before making it part of the "official" ocaml.org community
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<seliopou> just got a 4000 line long ocaml type error
<Drup> seliopou: polymorphic variant encoding an AST ? :)
<seliopou> Drup: a big-ass module and at the end "contains type variables that cannot be generalized"
<seliopou> oy, it's probably something stupid
<seliopou> but maybe one for the record books
<seliopou> though i suspect from your reaction, this is peanuts compared to others
<Drup> ah, the big ass module, yeah, that's the other possibility
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<Drup> seliopou: let's say that, if you know how, it's quite easy to have enormous error messages, especially when using polymorphic variants. but 4000 line is indeed impressive :D
<seliopou> I did this by accident, so just imagine what i'd be capable of if I knew what I was doing
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<seliopou> ah, monomorphism restriction
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<flux> does ocamlbuild support having a subdirectory with its own _tags?
<flux> I'm trying to make an 'easy to build' package that has its dependency module as a subdirector (actually a git submodule)
<flux> "OCamlGcode": include seems to work ok, but it doesn't rebuild stuff when I modify something in OCamlGcode
<flux> actually I was wrong, it seem to work fine :)
<pippijn> yes
<pippijn> ocamlbuild is composable
<pippijn> oasis is not
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<smondet> Hi does anyone know how portable are the cmxs files? I mean if i compile a cmxs on an Ubuntu and load it with a program compiled on a debian stable, am I going to get libc mismatches or something like that?
<companion_cube> I don't think so
<companion_cube> but they don't work from one ocaml version to another
<adrien> smondet: you can try it
<smondet> adrien: yes I'm going to, but I don't want to have it working now because of luck, and have it break in 6 months because of some OS update
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<adrien> as companion_cube said, you get no compat between ocaml versions
<adrien> basically, you are still bound to checksums on interfaces (iirc)
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<smondet> yes indeed
<companion_cube> also it will require the same architecture
<smondet> yes
<smondet> (cmxs works on ADM64 anyway, right? )
<adrien> yes!
<companion_cube> if you compiled on it, yes
<smondet> sorrr, i meant "only on AMD64"
<adrien> it's not so much "x86_64" as "does the OS support it"?
<adrien> no
<adrien> x86 and probably ARM, at least
<smondet> ah yes
<smondet> I misread
<smondet> but yes it's native code, the Dynlink module is not going to cross-compile
<smondet> but I'm a bit scared of things external to ocaml
<smondet> C libraries
<smondet> but I will try anyway :)
<smondet> thanks
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<sheijk> smondet: afaik the actual code is stored in the .o file. you can use nm etc. to check what it contains and which symbols it depends on
<adrien> for a .cmxa it will be in the .a file
<adrien> (which is merely a collection of the .o files :) )
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