#ocaml on 2017-01-17 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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01:26 <Algebr``> is there an ocamlfind package that corresponds to whatever ocamldebug uses?

01:26 <Algebr``> How could I programmatically access it

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05:36 <flux> I don't think ocamldebug 'uses' anything but itself and perhaps the compiler libraries?

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06:47 <orbitz> companion_cube: https://github.com/c-cube/ocaml-containers/pull/93

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08:53 <companion_cube> yeah, I saw

08:53 <companion_cube> thanks ^^

08:56 <orbitz> companion_cube: any other grunt-work you need done for 1.0? Just functions that you've already spec'd out and just don't have the time to type?

08:57 <companion_cube> not really, I have some changes to make to CCFormat so that Drup does not complain, but otherwise it's mostly fine

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09:04 <orbitz> companion_cube: I'm at work btw so I'll make the change you requested once I get home

09:04 <companion_cube> sure

09:04 <companion_cube> it's not urgent, is it? :)

09:05 <orbitz> I'd like it in 1.0, is all :)

09:05 <companion_cube> heh

09:06 <companion_cube> I think I will make a release candidate for 1.0, for once

09:07 <reynir> Drup-approved CCFormat :P

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10:58 <ocaml480> let vbox = GPack.vbox ~packing:window#add () in window#connect#destroy ~callback:Main.quit;

10:59 <ocaml480> This is lblgtk tutorial. Seems to be a different OCaml syntax. I've not code like that till now.

10:59 <ocaml480> And the new keyword. https://ocaml.org/learn/tutorials/introduction_to_gtk.html

11:00 <companion_cube> heh, there are two things: `f ~x:a` is a labelled argument

11:00 <companion_cube> (instead of just `f a` you give the label `x` to the argument `a`)

11:00 <companion_cube> and a#b#c is method call on objects, similar to a.b.c in other OO languages

11:00 <ocaml480> OO OCaml ?

11:01 <companion_cube> yeah, the "O" stands for object

11:02 <ocaml480> ~packing is a label

11:02 <ocaml480> ~callback:Main.quit;

11:02 <ocaml480> I thought there is no Main.

11:02 <companion_cube> this is just a module called Main

11:02 <companion_cube> nothing special

11:03 <companion_cube> you can write such a module if you want, it just has nothing special

11:03 <ocaml480> label:Module.function ?

11:03 <companion_cube> ~label:any_value_here

11:03 <companion_cube> (including Module.function if you want)

11:04 <companion_cube> I mean, ~label:42 also works

11:04 <companion_cube> it's like passing a normal argument

11:05 <ocaml480> ~packing:vbox#pack label:Object#function

11:05 <companion_cube> sure

11:06 <ocaml480> Label has some semantics ?

11:06 <companion_cube> well, labels are part of signatures

11:06 <companion_cube> it's similar to named arguments in python

11:06 <companion_cube> you can re-order them

11:06 <companion_cube> they act like documentation

11:09 <ocaml480> let () = main ()

11:09 <ocaml480> Returns 'unit'.

11:10 <ocaml480> It knows that main() is the main method ?

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11:21 <ocaml480> lablgtk doesn't have many examples.

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12:13 <flux> ocaml480, let () = main () calls main function because it's evaluating the statement, as it does for everything else from top to bottom

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12:13 <flux> basically if you write let a = 4 + 4 it evaluates the 4 + 4 right there

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12:14 <flux> in the same way let () = print_endline "hello" evalutes the expression at that point

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12:28 <ocaml480> Ok

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12:57 <ocaml480> let () = main () If I have this in a .ml file it is called automatically. How do I run it in utop ?

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12:58 <ocaml480> I mean if I compile it it runs.

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12:59 <ocaml480> lablgtk code has to be compiled always ?

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13:07 <reynir> No, I don't think so

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13:10 <thizanne> ocaml480: you can #use "your_file.ml"

13:11 <thizanne> but you need to load necessary modules before

13:11 <thizanne> (like lablgtk)

13:11 <adrien> #require "lablgtk.auto-init"

13:11 <adrien> or use the lablgtk toplevel

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13:42 <ocaml480> I have lablgtk code along with other OCaml code in one file.

13:44 <ocaml480> #require "lablgtk2";; I use

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13:48 <ocaml480> let a = Printexc.print main () How do I call main ?

13:49 <flux> that calls main

13:49 <flux> what was the question?-)

13:50 <ocaml480> I have lablgtk code along with other OCaml code in one file. Don't have to compile. I am told.

13:50 <ocaml480> How do I bootstrap main ?

13:51 <ocaml480> #require "lablgtk2";; Modules are loaded in toplevel.

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13:55 <ocaml480> Have to go. Will ask again.

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13:56 <Onemorenickname_> hello people

13:56 <Onemorenickname_> i'm getting an obscure error, and i think printing the inferred types so far could help me

13:56 <Onemorenickname_> how can i do so without using the interpreter ?

13:57 <companion_cube> you could try to use merlin, probably the best

13:58 <Onemorenickname_> compatible with ocamlbuild ?

13:58 <theblatte> you could also annotate functions or values with some types, either the ones you expect or just "unit", to get ocaml to complain in specific places

13:59 <Onemorenickname_> theblatte, that's what i've done, but i got an error i still don't understand at an unexpectad place

13:59 <Onemorenickname_> i think an inference has been made to constrain the general type of the previous function

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14:00 <Onemorenickname_> but given i don't have access to its type, i can't see what was that inference

14:00 <Onemorenickname_> hence the need to get the types of everything inferred so far

14:00 <Onemorenickname_> (i've seen someone do that, maybe with "-i" option or something likethat)

14:00 <Onemorenickname_> (but not with ocamlbuild)

14:02 <companion_cube> merlin can work with ocamlbuild, it's an editor plugin that embeds the typechecker

14:02 <companion_cube> and you have a shortcut to ask for the type of any expression

14:03 <Onemorenickname_> i will check the doc, thank you companion_cube :)

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14:03 <companion_cube> !merlin

14:03 <ocabot_> https://github.com/the-lambda-church/merlin

14:06 <Onemorenickname_> so far, the .merlin file has been easy to make, and save highlights me the errors

14:06 <Onemorenickname_> perfect

14:09 <Onemorenickname_> companion_cube, and i can get the types, thank you !

14:09 <companion_cube> ah, nice!

14:09 <companion_cube> it's a very useful tool

14:10 <companion_cube> (with a minimum amount of setup you also get jump-to-def)

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14:10 <Onemorenickname_> i'll check that

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14:10 <Onemorenickname_> easy&quick setup, useful features, what to ask ? :D

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14:15 <companion_cube> yeah, it's amazing

14:15 <Onemorenickname_> and i solved the error

14:16 <Onemorenickname_> actually, there was a bigger error /just after/ the small one, and given the compilation stops after the first error detected, i could not see it

14:16 <Onemorenickname_> haha

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14:19 <reynir> Onemorenickname_: Did someone take Onemorenickname? :D

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14:20 <companion_cube> Twomorenickname

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14:42 <Onemorenickname_> reynir, ha ha

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20:27 <napping> trying to install omake with opam is failing - would a non-opam install under /usr/local possibly break it?

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20:40 <napping> The fatal error is like *** omake error: File doc/OMakefile: line 227, characters 5-18 directory does not exist: $HOME/.opam/4.03.0/build/omake.0.10.1/doc/txt

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20:50 <napping> Ah, I seem to have hit https://github.com/ocaml-omake/omake/issues/63

20:51 <napping> opam install fails if hevea is installed?!

20:54 <companion_cube> ah, it must try to generate some doc and fail

20:55 <napping> Yeah, something like that. It just seems pretty weird

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21:03 <rgrinberg> It's fixed in master actually, waiting on Gerd to make a release :|

21:04 <napping> Ok, that's nice

21:04 <rgrinberg> So you can either do a pin if you'd like to keep hevea, or just get rid of hevea and reinstall

21:05 <napping> Not just touching doc/txt/.empty?

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21:19 <mami> go picolino

21:19 <mami> oops

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21:34 <madroach> Hi, is there a way to read directly from a file into a bigarray?

21:37 <companion_cube> Bigarray.Array1.map_file

21:38 <companion_cube> (or use bigstring)

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21:38 <madroach> no portable way?

21:38 <madroach> map_file isn't portable, is it?

21:39 <companion_cube> well, depends on `unix`

21:39 <companion_cube> I don't think memory-mapping is very portable in general

21:44 <madroach> ok. thanks!

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22:18 <Drup> reynir: https://i.imgur.com/Cedq0ID.png I made this just for you.

22:18 <Drup> (I started by looking for an "octopus of approval", but couldn't find one, so here you are.

22:19 <reynir> :D

22:20 * reynir saves it for later use (hopefully)

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22:20 <Drup> :D

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22:24 <Drup> (if anyone with artistic talents could make an octopus version of https://i.imgur.com/vR8qCsg.jpg, that would be much better)

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22:46 <orbifx> Is there a way to tell oasis of make targets to "inject" in the make file it generates?

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22:52 <Drup> orbifx: just add your targets at the end/beginning of the makefile, out of the "OASIS" section

22:53 <orbifx> ow ok. So it will update the makefile section in oasis and leave mine untouched?

22:59 <Algebr> yes

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23:04 <orbifx> Cool :)

23:05 <orbifx> Also, how to I tell oasis that I want EUPL as my licence?

23:05 <orbifx> ow url

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