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<Ivan__83> need help with review: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/4070
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<guidosarducci> For devs using/maintaining ppc, was a QEMU-based target ever looked into, similar to armvirt or malta? Any foreseeable problems? A virtual ppc target would be handy for coverage and testing.
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<mangix> guidosarducci: I don't think there are many PPC devices
<mangix> There are some but the vast majority is MIPS and ARM
<guidosarducci> mangix: I know that, but ppc has a history of causing.. err revealing other SW problems, hence useful for test/debug. While it *is* possible to simply build one's SW against ppc targets (and I do), being able to run it too is better.
<pkgadd> big endian ppc as a whole is rather dead
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<plntyk> stintel, thank you !
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<stintel> plntyk: you're welcome!
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* rsalvaterra looks at the interrupt distribution on his MT7621 device and wonders…
<rsalvaterra> … has anyone around here tried irqbalance on MT7621?
<rsalvaterra> The distribution I see doesn't look bad (Ethernet on one core, both Wi-Fi devices on the other core, one on each sibling), though…
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<stintel> yay got my DACs
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<rsalvaterra> stintel: DACs? As in audio ones?
<stintel> no, Direct Attached Copper
<stintel> to link the CN6640-SNIC10E to my switch ;)
<stintel> for a DAC ... I'm waiting for Khadas Tone Board 2 in board/kit to become available
<stintel> I will then try adding it to my DIY UcD400 PA
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<rsalvaterra> Overkill. Both of them. :P
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<nitroshift> rsalvaterra, o/
<rsalvaterra> nitroshift: Hi, there!
<Habbie> hello! if i suspect a packaging bug in some things in the packages tree, would i discuss that here or in #openwrt?
<rsalvaterra> stintel: Actually… that UCD400 looks sweet. Single channel, class D…
<Habbie> (of course i'm happy to file tickets or PRs but i first want to make sure i'm not missing things)
<stintel> rsalvaterra: the kit was dual channel
<stintel> rsalvaterra: wanted the Nc400 actually and got confused with the 400 # :P
<stintel> rsalvaterra: but the Nc400 is only available in single channel kit
<stintel> Habbie: if it's purely about packaging I'd say here is better - do mind that not all people who have access to the packages feed are on IRC
<stintel> is it about any of the PowerDNS daemons :)
<rsalvaterra> stintel: What preamp are you using?
<stintel> rsalvaterra: it's not really a pre, but I wanted to move my most expensive speakers away from the main amp to reduce the risk of clipping when I'm going nuts :P
<stintel> NAD T778
<stintel> and the DIY kit was also kind of an experiment
<stintel> when I build my own place, I'll go nuts on object based surround with something like Anthem AVM 70 prepro, and each channel on some NcXXX monoblock
<stintel> with the monoblocks as close to the speaker as possible and balanced xlr from the prepro to the monoblocks
<stintel> or that's the idea that's currently in my head, at least :)
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<rsalvaterra> stintel: I'm happy with my cheap-as-chips TPA3116D2, for the time being. XD
<stintel> that's all that matters!
<Habbie> stintel, thanks! and yes, i'm currently looking at 'opkg install dnsdist' which needs 19.9MB and i suspect it could be smaller
<Habbie> for example
<rsalvaterra> Besides, getting the lady to approve all the cabling… yeah, wound't be a trivial task.
<rsalvaterra> *wouldn't
<stintel> Habbie: ahh that's pretty awesome! smaller sounds good
<Habbie> libh2o-evloop appears to contain 3 identical copies of a .so
<Habbie> not symlinked, not hardlinked
<stintel> rsalvaterra: I'd probably hide the xlr in the walls and ceiling
<Habbie> and ruby is pulled in for no reason that i can find
<Habbie> (also boost but that's an empty shell)
<stintel> I'm actually running pdns-recursor on OpenWrt and I'm asking myself questions about the memory usage when loading large blocklists and using multiple threads
<Habbie> i can probably answer those - might make more sense in OFTC #powerdns but i'm not picky
<stintel> alright, good to know (haven't paid much attention to it yet as it's some kind of side project)
<stintel> I have to run now, meeting
<stintel> actually I have both dnsdist and pdns-recursor on that device
<stintel> -rw-r--r-- 1 stijn users 1,3M dec 12 07:46 bin/packages/aarch64_cortex-a53/packages/dnsdist_1.5.1-1_aarch64_cortex-a53.ipk
<stintel> I guess you're talking about dnsdist + deps
<Habbie> yep
<Habbie> the dnsdist ipk is around 1,3-1,5M yes
<Habbie> but with all deps it adds up to 19,9M installed
<stintel> alright, it's hard for me to check that as I'm building custom images
<Habbie> ah
<Habbie> i'm just toying with the rootfs image from the docker hub right now, and installing via opkg
<stintel> so opkg install dnsdist pulls in ruby?
<Habbie> yes, because libh2o-evloop depends on it
<Habbie> i think it is a build dep for it
<Habbie> but not a runtime dep
<Habbie> so that might be as simple as removing one word from libs/h2o/Makefile
<stintel> the package defines it as a normal dependency, not a build dep
<Habbie> PKG_BUILD_DEPENDS:=ruby/host libwslay
<Habbie> i guess -this- line means it needs ruby on the machine that is running the compiler?
<stintel> yeah, that's a host build
<Habbie> and then later it indeed lists it as a normal dep, and i can't see a reason for that
<stintel> so it needs ruby on the host to be able to build it
<stintel> seems that dep is there since initial commit of h2o (c9fa74bf43cfa535d6220a9db8cf43e20c4f104c)
<stintel> don't know if the maintainer is on IRC
<Habbie> he's been on #powerdns on occasion
<Habbie> but not recently
<stintel> maybe drop him an email first to ask why that dep is there?
<Habbie> yep, makes sense
<stintel> maybe it's just a leftover before he figured out PKG_BUILD_DEPENDS ruby/host
<stintel> from before*
<Habbie> likely - the 3 copies of the .so also probably stem from inexperience (while he certainly has more than i do, at this point)
<Habbie> i'll ping him while i get a build env set up
<Habbie> thanks
<stintel> I can actually try and remove that dep
<stintel> I have a working build env
<Habbie> 'dan graag' :)
<stintel> geef me ff ;)
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<stintel> nice, tools/zstd doesn't build
<stintel> always the same problem when you want to "quickly do X"
<Habbie> hehe
<Habbie> looks like zstd itself has not been touched on master for a while
<stintel> maybe I need a make clean
<Habbie> it looks like i am a bunch of makes away from being able to do anything, but that's to be expected as a new user i'd say :)
<Habbie> it's building a lot of things my Debian already has ;)
<stintel> yeah the problem is that the device that I'm running pdns-recursor/dnsdist on is not supported yet and my current work doesn't rebase cleanly on master
<Habbie> ouch
<Habbie> i'm keeping life simple on x86 for now
<Habbie> what device is it?
<stintel> I've got arm, arm64, mips, mips64, powerpc64, x86
<stintel> this is a TP-Link OC200
<stintel> PoE-PD powered, 4GiB NAND, 1GiB RAM, dual core arm64 iirc
<Habbie> wow, gigabytes :)
<stintel> I want to build a HA dns/dhcp/.. setup with 2 (or more of those)
<Habbie> i saw something on your blog
<Habbie> but it was a few years old
<stintel> this would be standalone for DNS/DHCP, maybe radius for 802.1x/WPA-Enterprise
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<stintel> still using those apu2 and erl for main router, for now
<Habbie> i'm behind an apu2 here
<Habbie> or at least, this irc box is
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<stintel> ah that's a VM on a OVH box
<stintel> fortunately I was not in the cloud that went up in the clouds
<Habbie> hehe
<stintel> the reason to build some things in tools is to avoid problems due to different versions of those tools in different distros afaik
<Habbie> yes, i can imagine
<Habbie> 'and make sure you unset SED' :)
<Habbie> with some luck this part of preparing the build system will be done just before i have to go away ;)
<stintel> it can take a while
<Habbie> yep
<Habbie> this is fine :)
<Habbie> i suspect it's pretty clever about not rebuilding all the things all the time
<Habbie> and i hope it'll benefit from my ccache
<stintel> it is, but sometimes you might hit annoying / undiscovered issues with that
<stintel> the buildbots start from a clean slate every time - but do use ccache iirc
<Habbie> the powerdns code base has prepared me for make surprises ;)
<Habbie> btw, how did you figure out i was here about powerdns? i don't have it in my cloak :)
<stintel> I'm using powerdns for a long time, the nick looked familiar
<Habbie> that'll do it :)
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<Habbie> oh, it even builds a gcc for x86
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<Habbie> ok, need to go, thanks so far stintel
<stintel> Habbie: ah, rebase worked, but now build fails on kea
* stintel disables kea for now
<stintel> Habbie: FYI, o2h builds fine with the ruby dep removed
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<Habbie> stintel, thanks, i am not surprised :)
<Habbie> i should come home later today to a bunch of built packages - or an error 5 seconds after i left
<stintel> haha, so true
<Habbie> stintel, i wonder, is there even a way for a missing runtime dep to break the building of a package?
<stintel> yes
<stintel> where was it again
<stintel> Habbie: https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=blob;f=include/package-ipkg.mk;h=c2017cd220622f88aa437b73f48b5d3ffc1535d6;hb=HEAD#l70
<stintel> if something is linked to a lib of which the package is not in DEPENDS you'll hit that failure
<stintel> I just had that with kea
<Habbie> right! it checks without running things
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<Habbie> debian has the opposite feature - generatijg runtime deps from an ELF read
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<Hauke> Did anyone avoided hacking their routers because of US DMCA (1201) provisions against circumventing any technological protection measures?
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<rsalvaterra> Hauke: Don't care (EU resident here, thankfully) but… how is that crap even enforceable?
<rsalvaterra> (I mean, assuming no digital signatures and/or locked bootloaders.)
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<Habbie> stintel, came home to a bunch of built packages - dnsdist+deps in 35 minutes
<stintel> Habbie: nice!
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<Hauke> rsalvaterra: I am also located in the EU, but someone was asking me if I know someone affected by this, to help lobby against this.
<rsalvaterra> Hauke: The EFF would probably be interested in helping too, no?
<Habbie> stintel, .. for the wrong architecture :D
<stintel> Habbie: oops. ath79?
<Habbie> no, x86 instead of x86_64
<Habbie> it's not like i forgot
<Habbie> but i did not look close enough at the subarch thing or whatever it's called
<Habbie> oh well, i know how things work now (kind of) so in another 40-50 minutes i should be good (and also, asleep ;) )
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<mangix> rsalvaterra: the mt7621 interrupts are already manually tuned AFAIK
<rsalvaterra> mangix: They do look like it, yes.
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<rr123> why is rcS still in inittab as '::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS S boot'? there is no /etc/init.d/rcS anymore
<Hauke> zorun: Do you have some time to help with the 21.02.0-rc1 release notes? https://openwrt.org/releases/21.02/notes-21.02.0-rc1
<Hauke> or anyone else
<zorun> Hauke: these days, not so much, sorry :( and it's probably a fair amount of work
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<Hauke> zorun: ok, I will extedn it tomorrow
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<zorun> Hauke: when is the release planned? I can proof-read it sometimes this week
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<Hauke> zorun: the build is currently running, I hope to get it out in ~24 hours or ~48 hours
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