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<wolfspraul>
pcercuei: what are your thoughts on wayland?
<wolfspraul>
(thanks for the heads up here btw, I think wayland is an exciting project...)
<wolfspraul>
I just don't know that well yet where it will go and what it will mean
<wolfspraul>
how about vnc/remote?
<wolfspraul>
how about sdl/framebuffer stuff or devices with small/very small screens...
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<pcercuei>
wolfspraul: I don't have thoughts
<pcercuei>
I'm nowhere near an Xorg expert
<pcercuei>
but what I know for sure is that having more projects is always better than just one
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<wolfspraul>
he :-)
<wolfspraul>
that's a start, yes
<wolfspraul>
do you plan to try it out?
<wolfspraul>
I mean wayland
<pcercuei>
maybe
<pcercuei>
if it doesn't fuck up my system
<pcercuei>
I'm running Debian wheezy, which is going to be marked as "stable" soon
<pabs3>
FSVO "soon"
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<qi-bot>
[commit] Paul Cercueil: Save changes made on the link of an OPK on the user directory. (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a04b9e3
<qi-bot>
[commit] Paul Cercueil: Memorize the selector's directory as the default one for later use (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/c94968f
<qi-bot>
[commit] Paul Cercueil: Assign an icon for a given link only if it hasn't been done before (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/dec1a89
<qi-bot>
[commit] Paul Cercueil: Hide parameters not suitable for OPKs on the context menu (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/4c4f452
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<kyak>
xiangfu: hi! the build looks good. Wonder why qball failed to build (builds fine here).. Do you have a build log or could do make package/qball/{clean,compile} V=s (but you have to remove qball_src.zip from dl/)
<kyak>
some people re-release a tarball without notifying, others don't even care about md5sum and don't even bother to change a tarball name upon release :)
<kyak>
hm.. looks like openwrt doesn't test checksums if it doesn't have to download the source (already in dl/)
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<kyak>
which makes it really difficult to update packages whose source name doesn't change
<kyak>
i just made some changes locally in dl/qball_src.zip - and openwrt didn't even notice
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<kyak>
jow_laptop: do you have an idea?
<jow_laptop>
yeah, see if debian has an own tarball of it (the blah.orig.tar.gz ones) and use that
<kyak>
nope, it's not packaged for debian
<jow_laptop>
then you have to do it yourself
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<kyak>
do what?
<jow_laptop>
or try to find a repo somewhere which you can reference
<jow_laptop>
making sane, versioned tarballs
<kyak>
ok.. is it possible to download to a versioned tarball?
<jow_laptop>
???
<kyak>
like, grab qball_src.zip, but save it as qball_src_VER.zip
<kyak>
in dl
<jow_laptop>
probably not
<kyak>
then when version changes, download will not find it try to redownload
<kyak>
ok. Another option - can we check md5sum even if package is in dl/ ?
<jow_laptop>
that would extremely slow down the build process
<jow_laptop>
right now the md5sum calculation happens directly during download
<kyak>
you know what.. forget about it. Unversioned tarballs really piss me off - so it's the author's fault
<jow_laptop>
yes
<jow_laptop>
does he have a repo?
<kyak>
no, he has a web page and updates the source from time to time
<kyak>
well, i even approached the author once asking him to version his source
<kyak>
he said: "Unfortunately I've got some places that link to my website (e.g., http://qt-apps.org/ you can advertise Qt applications, with links directly to the archives), so it would be difficult to keep these all updated. And I don't have web space to store two copies I'm afraid. I'm not sure how OpenWrt packaging works - can you simply rename the files, or could it be hosted elsewhere?"
<kyak>
that was almost two years ago.. probably i should approach him again and tell about wonders of github
<larsc>
we can put a versioned mirror up on downloads.openwrt.org I think we do that for some other packages as well
<kyak>
sounds like a good idea
<kyak>
hosting versioned tarball for the author :)
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<xiangfu>
kyak, after re-download the dl/qball_src.zip, the qball compile just fine. I start build the new image again (with qball=y)
<jow_laptop>
kyak: "There is also a Git repository on the Sourceforge page."+
<jow_laptop>
so just reference that in the openwrt makefile and it will create beautifully versioned tarballs
<jow_laptop>
which you can then mirror
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<kyak>
xiangfu: great, thanks :) hope this one is going to be final!
<wpwrak>
pcercuei: a foolish general thinks relentless heroic sacrifices will turn the tide even if the battle seems lost. a wise general falls back upon seeing the battle is lost and saves his troops for the counterattack.