02:17 <roh> wpwrak: heh

02:17 <roh> its nice when weird things suddenly make sense?

02:18 <roh> eh. s/?/.

02:42 <wpwrak> oh yes. i was getting worried about the health of my scope. of course, all the things still looked reasonable when working on something that's somehow grounded. only battery-powered devices made no sense.

02:44 <wpwrak> and of course, with the ground wires of _both_ probes broken, all the "swap probe/channel", "connect more ground", etc. tests didn't yield anything either. pretty nasty.

04:45 <panda|z> xiangfu: good afternoon

06:23 <xiangfu> it have problem on the ftg256 pad.

06:24 <xiangfu> bbl

07:08 <whitequark> wpwrak: I guess it was looking like a capacitive coupling? you'd only see AC, probably in a quite distorted form?

07:12 <qi-bot> The build was successful: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121029-0000

11:18 <wpwrak> xiangfu: not to bad. a few more tries and you'll be able to make non-BGA boards with that process. the main problem seem to be temperature variations. are you using an iron for the toner transfer process ? or a laminator ?

11:24 <wpwrak> whitequark: mainly lots and lots of noise. plus, yes, DC just vanished. that is, if the circuit wasn't grounded via some other means, e.g., by USB->PC->mains ground->scope. that "only" messed up the signal a bit.

21:15 <whitequark> lekernel__: ping