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crankharder >
what's a good way to verify if a given executably is available in the current path?
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crankharder >
*executable
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crankharder >
in bash i could do something like... which git
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crankharder >
not sure if that's such a great idea from ruby or not
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rhizmoe >
system('if test -x git')
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rhizmoe >
actually: if text -x $(which git)
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rhizmoe >
if `test -x $(which git)`
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rhizmoe >
yadda yadda
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crankharder >
`test -x $(which git)` => is "" for me. git is available
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zenspider >
rhizmoe: gem which
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I don't see any point in ruby-which, considering rubygems has had that for forever
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lolzie >
Hi guys, just learned about alias :method1 :method2
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lolzie >
Where in the docs is this docced?
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lolzie >
I hate how at my current knowledge of ruby/its documentation that there are still features in the language which I can't find where they come from :/
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postmodern >
lolzie, alias is an actual keyword in ruby
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postmodern >
lolzie, alias_method does the same thing, but is an actual method
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postmodern >
lolzie, essentially alias makes a copy of the method, and assigns a new name to it
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postmodern >
lolzie, so if you override the original method, the alias wont be changed
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lolzie >
That's kind of an unintuitive behaviour to me, considering it's meant to be an alias for the same thing
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lolzie >
The overriding part not affecting the alias, that is
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banisterfiend >
lolzie it's actually quite handy, as it allows you to easily decorate a method
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banisterfiend >
lolzie steps are 1. alias it, 2. override original but adding new code but calling the alias
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lolzie >
Cheers guys :)
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banisterfiend >
class A; def hello; puts "hi"; end; alias old_hello hello; def hello; puts "before"; old_hello; end; end; A.new.hello #=> "before, "hi"
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mistergibson >
With respect to String#encode, encoding options Hash : :replace and :fallback are exclusive - yes?
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heftig >
is it possible to have "gem cleanup" automatically reject uninstalls that would break deps?
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rue >
Doesn’t it do that?
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bnagy >
hey, ffi q (sleepy over there)
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bnagy >
how do I make a Struct treat uints as little endian?
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yorickpeterse >
Morning
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erikh >
yeah, I guess 12:45am counts as morning
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yorickpeterse >
09:45 for me
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Mon_Ouie >
bnagy: I think you'd need to to do the conversion manually, FFI most likely only uses native endianness
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bnagy >
I found some google hints that suggested there was an 'order' method which switched the whole struct
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rue|w >
bnagy: It is what it is on the platform
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bnagy >
rue|w: no, it's not
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bnagy >
not when you use jruby on windows, anyway :)
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rue|w >
JVM is the platform
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bnagy >
ok well that's one way of looking at it
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bnagy >
not a very useful one, but definitely valid :P
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bnagy >
in any case, there are a lot of valid reasons to want to be able to set endian for structs
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rue|w >
Reasons, I’m sure, but kind of the whole point is that it‘s the native structure
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bnagy >
except that it's not
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bnagy >
I am running on windows. I do not have a windows structure
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bnagy >
and even if everything were magically little endian, then I would want to parse a network packet or something
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rue|w >
That’s because the JVM is a platform
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rue|w >
But you’ve always got htonl(3) and friends
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bnagy >
which might actually be a useful point of view for everything but FFI, which, by definition, wraps binary libs
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Mon_Ouie >
FFI doesn't seem like an ideal solution for parsing binary packet received from files/network
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bnagy >
anyway, I'm not really interested in your opinion of the utility of being able to set endianness
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bnagy >
it is supposed to be supported, I can't get it to work
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Mon_Ouie >
You can't set endianness in a C struct definition either
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bnagy >
no but a C struct would actually use native fucking endian
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bnagy >
this is a really tedious conversation
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rue|w >
The native endian on JVM is JVM’s endianness.
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rue|w >
It is what it is
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zenspider >
bnagy: ^^
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goes te bod
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yorickpeterse >
awww yiss, motherfucking code analysis
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yorickpeterse >
took me nearly a month but I'm finally starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel
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masterkorp >
Fog API doc is so hard to browse
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Mon_Ouie >
Did you try ri or the YARD-generated dversion?
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masterkorp >
there is one ?
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masterkorp >
can you give me a link ?
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Mon_Ouie >
There always is one on rdoc.info
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Mon_Ouie >
(Or you can just generate it yourself)
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masterkorp >
i was using this
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masterkorp >
yorickpeterse: thank you sir
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<
masterkorp >
much better
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<
masterkorp >
rdoc sucks
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masterkorp >
i have no idea why they link the rdoc version
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yorickpeterse >
Because there's a few people out there who like Rdoc and happen to also work on Rubygems
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yorickpeterse >
unless the fog gem set the link themselves
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yorickpeterse >
err wait, nevermind that. Of course they did, it's hosted on fog.io
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mumbles something about doing a dozen things at the same time not being a good idea
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masterkorp >
Guys, do you recommend any campifire library ?
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masterkorp >
Looks nice, any toughs would be welcome
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masterkorp >
s/would/are/
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Mon_Ouie >
The link to the documentation of gems on rubygems.org links to rdoc.info
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crankharder >
i'm seeing a case where #clone isn't returning an instance of the same class
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crankharder >
so why is b and Array and not a ThinkingSphinx::Search obj?
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judofyr >
crankharder: there's several issues with subclassing Array/Hash
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judofyr >
e.g. should Array#select return an Array or the subclass?
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crankharder >
i would think it would return self
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crankharder >
but i'm biased right now
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zzak >
its not really rdoc's fault, that's darkfish
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zzak >
ged: got any examples of fivefish up yet?
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ged >
zzak: And I hardly see how the README not being parsed is Darkfish's fault.
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zzak >
ged: i was referring more about the long list of modules, classes, methods, etc
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ged >
zzak: Ah, yes, that is inconvenient.
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zzak >
i'd like to see this merged into rdoc
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ged >
But that's only the top-level page because the README.md wasn't included.
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ged >
If there's no '--main', Darkfish just dumps the index because it's better than nothing.
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ged >
I'm pretty happy with how it turned out
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darkfish is kinda ugly and disorganized
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ged: maybe bring it up to drbrain about replacing darkfish 2, he's in japan this week for sapporo
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ged >
zzak: Well, I only made Darkfish to be nicer than the previous template, and to allow people to use their own CSS to make it pretty.
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ged >
zzak: I guess the latter has since become less of an option since the --stylesheet option was removed. Oh well.
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zzak >
ged: thats too bad about --stylesheet, but it's not hard to replace the generated css with your own
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ged: i like fivefish a lot though, it should be the default generator for ruby 2.0
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ged >
Heh, Fog is a good library for profiling Fivefish. 2567 sources!
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ged >
Only 14% documented, though.
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masterkorp >
Can date.parse parse the %m%d%Y format ?
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masterkorp >
will use striptime
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yorickpeterse >
blegh, GH is down
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wmoxam_ >
yorickpeterse: proving once again that Rails can't scale
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yorickpeterse >
...except it has nothing to do with Rails
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yorickpeterse >
"08:35 AM PST We've taken a bad DB down and are working to return the DB cluster to a normal state now."
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darix >
yorickpeterse: you cant just destroy his argument with facts. that is unfair!
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Assurbanipal >
hi guys anyone around?could someone recommend a tutorial not on learning ruby, but learning to program,using ruby?
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rue >
There’s only one
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rue >
corundum: tutorial?
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mistym >
Oh yeah, I've heard good things about Learn to Program too.
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Assurbanipal >
rue: i m already working with pine's book and it's good
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Assurbanipal >
i was wondering if there is amaybe a video tut teaching general programing through using ruby as a tool
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Assurbanipal >
i have also sterted the SICP series that use Lisp's Scheme, and is amazing,but is maybe too much for me now..i lack the mathematical background to completly follow it
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Assurbanipal >
is there something like it but using ruby/?
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is there any way supply a default string to gets? (so the user can edit it before hitting enter)
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dgs, iirc the highline gem provdes methods like that
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canton7: cool. I'll have a look at that. thanks =)
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fromhet >
Howdy-ho! Just now I found out that you can do File.vim('/path/to/file') in irb. Is that common? I can do it with mvim too, but gvim seems unsupported? I can't do it in Rakefile's, is there a reason for that?
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fromhet: are you sure you don't have something fancy going on in your .irbrc file?
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steveklabnik >
OH NO erikh HATES US
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snorkdude >
Hey guys, can anyone explain to me what a
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snorkdude >
*a ||= b means
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1.9.3-p194 :003 > *a ||= b
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SyntaxError: compile error
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(irb):3: syntax error, unexpected tOP_ASGN, expecting '='
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*a ||= b
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fromhet >
levicole: of course! Verdammt, that would have been very useful. It requires 'interactive_editor', something I saw on vimcasts. Silly me!
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steveklabnik >
is what it means to me ;)
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Mon_Ouie >
If a is nil or false (or even undefined) it sets it to b
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erikh >
steveklabnik: wat
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Mon_Ouie >
steveklabnik: the "*" is a convention for correcting oneself ;)
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steveklabnik: i think he was correcting himself
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snorkdude >
Yes, I was.
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erikh: you tried to close the window
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thanks everyone
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never seen that
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erikh >
first day at new job, i'm feeling bad enough for doing irc in general :)
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a ||= b is (a || a = b), iirc
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it has the semantics of a = a || b but is funky in what it actually does
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steveklabnik >
i always fucking type it wrong
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erikh: no, it is expressly NOT that.
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Mon_Ouie >
a || a = b is the closest expansion but actually even that one is slightly different for variables
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Because it also works when a isn't defined yet
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right.
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ah, yeah, I guess I see your point
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But it's still different from erikh's for methods — because the setter is not called when a is non-falsy
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well, || is magical in ruby anyhow.
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compared to, say, java.
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steveklabnik: fwiw, it doesn't matter for local variables
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a = a # => nil
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but it indeed does for @ivars
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Other things that break the common expansions: in foo.bar.baz ||= 3, foo.bar is only evaluated once
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huh, nice
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