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<yorickpeterse>
HELLO
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<gnufied>
HELO
<rue|w>
EHLO
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<dr_bob>
QUIT
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<judofyr>
whitequark: is it done yet?
<judofyr>
:D
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<zenspider>
I honestly don't know which is worse... apache config or apple's handling of it
<rking>
zenspider: What do they do?
<sandbags>
anyone have experience of PDF generation with Prawn? I'm looking for some insight into how hard it is to use for generating a report including a few tables and graphs on a scale of days/weeks/months complexity. Any informed opinions about?
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<diegoviola>
when I fork() a process and that child process is done doing its thing, i see a zombie process, is there a way i could get rid of those zombie processes? I'm on Linux.
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<diegoviola>
cool, thanks
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<sandbags>
hrmmm well things are not helped by the manual referring to a method that doesn't appear to work
<yorickpeterse>
zenspider: that applies to a lot of things Apple does with their OS
<sandbags>
okay how stupid is this, you use in your examples a helper method you don't include in the gem itself and it's not clear how you'd get it included
* sandbags
sighs
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<diegoviola>
if I call Process.wait the parent process blocks, i don't want that, hmm
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<sandbags>
diegoviola: did you look at the docs for Process.wait?
<rking>
sandbags: require'pry';binding.pry then figure out where the source is from $ some_helper
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<sandbags>
rking: no, the helper is not included
<diegoviola>
sandbags: sorry, i just looked now, thanks
<rking>
sandbags: I mean do it from the tests, where it is reachable.
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<rking>
sandbags: OH! You mean "examples" as in docs, not as in RSpec stuff.
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<sandbags>
rking: yes examples from the manual
<sandbags>
it just seems daft to me that you'd use a method, in all the examples in your manual, that someone using your gem will not have
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<rking>
sandbags: URL?
<zenspider>
yorickpeterse: normally I'd disagree with you... but not in the case of osx server
<sandbags>
zenspider: why ask the question if you don't listen to the answer?
<zenspider>
sandbags: why sit in here and bitch when the answer is greppable?u
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<yorickpeterse>
Now now kids, no need to get all angry
<zenspider>
I found it, having NEVER looked at prawn before, in approximately 30 seconds INCLUDING checking the damn thing out
<sandbags>
zenspider: did i say i couldn't find it?
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<sandbags>
zenspider: why do you have to be so combatative?
<sandbags>
you think it's fine, okay
<zenspider>
I guess you're confused by the word "example" and think it means the same as "part of the library"
<zenspider>
I'm no more combative than the person I'm chatting with...
<zenspider>
looking at the impl of stroke_axis... I don't think it'd be good to have in the library... it's got too many hardcoded values to begin with and wouldn't work as a general purpose method
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<zenspider>
oh thank god... damn asl is a pita.
<zenspider>
now that my console isn't so chatty... and webby stuff is back. and stupid ssl certs are regenerated and installed... 3 yaks down... I can sleep
<matti>
?
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<yorickpeterse>
oddmunds: Still playing it? I could use some buddies since I'm getting a bit tired of being chased down by an angry mob every time I decide to walk into a town
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<yorickpeterse>
(sneaking gets boring sometimes)
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<oddmunds>
haven't playes since before sumre
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<solondz>
I want to write a very basic command-line script; But I'd like to use arguments, eg myscript one two three; rake seems unsuited to this, as paramaterized rake tasks don't look very intuitive. I'd like this to work with just core ruby (ie no need to install gems) - what's a nice way to handle this?
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<solondz>
optparse seems rather heavyweight
<solondz>
perhaps I just parse ARGV?
<Harzilein>
solondz: hmm. why don't you just use ARGV until you need more?
<Harzilein>
solondz: there's lots of unix scripts that do
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* solondz
nods; ok cool - i'll start there
<solondz>
thanks for the sanity check :)
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<JoelMcCracken>
Anyone know any repos/projects/resources on compiling ruby to javascript? I've found rb2js, but it is abandoned
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<Denommus>
why do people criticize Ruby's stack level, if Python's stack level is actually smaller?
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<yxhuvud>
well, maybe the big frameworks doesn't use up as much?
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<crankharder>
I'm trying to backport this 1.9 logic to a 1.8 app. I need to replace the Yay module here without using define_singleton_method - https://gist.github.com/b6ee9e21259248593183
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<crankharder>
yay
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<nofxx>
remove_const or set a class to nil is a good way to remove a class to recreate it? in production user will include 'a' or 'b', but I'm trying to test both in the same run
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<yxhuvud>
nofxx: why not subclass it and do both without doing weird shit?
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<soahccc>
Hmm Thread has a #stop? which returns true if the thread is stopped OR paused… Can I check if it is stopped and not just sleeping? #scheduled? or something
<soahccc>
Or it is better to use a mutex to pause the execution of a thread?
<apeiros_>
I think !thread.alive? means it's dead
<soahccc>
I know… I have a information gathering thread which should be paused if all clients are disconnected and continue if one connects
<apeiros_>
o0
<apeiros_>
you ask for something you already know?
<apeiros_>
>> Can I check if it is stopped and not just sleeping?
<apeiros_>
alive? does that
<soahccc>
Unfortunately if I do a sleep in the gathering process Thread#stop? evaluates to true
<soahccc>
stopped or paused not dead
<apeiros_>
stopped *is* sleeping.
<apeiros_>
you may have a misconception about how threads work…
<apeiros_>
there's 3 states - running, sleeping/stopped/waiting, dead
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<soahccc>
sleep is not exactly the same as stopped. sleep indicates that it is scheduled. stopped indicates that it wont run unless it is waked up again
<apeiros_>
if you need differentiation, then you'll have to resort to manually keeping track of that state.
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