apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p0: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p392) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<zzak> drbrain: i wrote those tests, but i cant figure out your SystemExit magic
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<jaimef> how can you enforce a specific ruby version from a rakefile? or does it require Gemfile?
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<zzak> jaimef: see RUBY_VERSION
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<zzak> drbrain: ping
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<zzak> i cant figure out how to use ./bin/rdoc from rdoc HEAD
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<drbrain> zzak: ruby -Ilib bin/rdoc
<zzak> derp
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<zzak> perfect
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<zzak> i cant figure out the SystemExit magic, so thats the best i could do
<drbrain> looks good
<zzak> should i commit?
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<drbrain> sure!
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<drbrain> cool
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<zzak> want me to update the change log?
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<drbrain> sure, sounds like a bug fix
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<zzak> drbrain: done, thanks for the pointers eric
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<yorickpeterse> zenspider: tbh I'm not even sure if Bacon uses #inspect to compare objects, I believe it actually uses equal? for it
<yorickpeterse> also good morning
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: .equal? wtf
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<yorickpeterse> put it this way, to be able to compare some custom object I had to add a #equal method to the class for it to work in Bacon, I however can't find said code
<yorickpeterse> might've removed it since
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<zenspider> I was JUST gonna do that :)
<yorickpeterse> oh, it's #==
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<zenspider> apeiros_: thanks.
<apeiros_> zenspider: beat you! hah! :)
<apeiros_> yw
<zenspider> he's one of ours and legit... so please unban in a couple hours or something
<apeiros_> I really wished all clients had some kind of smart join/part notification instead of the stupid "show all" or "show none"
<zenspider> or he can nag me later I guess
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<yorickpeterse> apeiros_: weechat does
<apeiros_> zenspider: k, if I forget it, feel free to unban
<yorickpeterse> you can configure it to, for example, only show parts/joins of those who spoke in the past 5 minutes
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<zenspider> apeiros_: mine has a "zomg net split" mode that lists all the people on a single stasus message
<yorickpeterse> heh
<zenspider> I wish clients had an exponentially growing autojoin to avoid the above shit
<apeiros_> yorickpeterse: yeah but if only one client does, and no others, it's still annoying when somebody persistently joins/parts
<yorickpeterse> true
<zenspider> anyhow... time to turn the brain off
<apeiros_> zenspider: that + slow join multiple channels. afaik there's some ircds which kick you when you join too quickly too many channels
<apeiros_> time to start working here :D
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<yorickpeterse> working from home, life's good
<yorickpeterse> No shitty internet, no resting facility next to our building that makes ours shake
<yorickpeterse> * testing
<yorickpeterse> heh, resting facility
<yorickpeterse> (I believe there's a wind tunnel in said facility)
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: working from home on your own projects and getting paid for that, can't beat this :p
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<yorickpeterse> Oh I'm not, I'm working on $WORK stuff
<yorickpeterse> but I get to yell at Blunderer, which is also fun
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<whitequark> ... Blunderer?
<yorickpeterse> Bundler
<yorickpeterse> Basically I have this issue:
<yorickpeterse> Project A has a Gemfile and sits in directory /a, project B also has a Gemfile and is downloaded to /b by project A
<yorickpeterse> Then project A cd's into /b and runs `bundle install --deployment`
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<yorickpeterse> This is where the issue comes up: Bundler uses the Gemfile of project A regardless of whether I use the --gemfile flag or unset/change BUNDLER_GEMFILE
<yorickpeterse> In fact, when I use --gemfile=./Gemfile (Which would point to /b/Gemfile) it says specifications have already been loaded
<yorickpeterse> Yesterday was the first day since a long time where I was about to start throwing shit around because of this
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<injekt> moin
<yorickpeterse> so TIL my issue can be resolved using Bundler.with_clean_env
<yorickpeterse> nice for that method to actually have some docs
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<andrewvos> So chruby doesn't recognise a ruby after I have installed it using ruby-build. Have to open a new shell.
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<judofyr> andrewvos: I have: function chruby_reload() { RUBIES=(~/.rubies/* ~/.rbenv/versions/*) }
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<andrewvos> judofyr: Thanks
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<imperator> wassup slyphon?
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<judofyr> hey folks
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<imperator> howdy judofyr
<injekt> helo
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<andrewvos> rue: I am in a meeting and someone is explaining a large java project structure. I though of your java "indistinguishable from parody" tweet and completely lost it. Couldn't stop laughing.
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<imperator> something something maven
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<injekt> andrewvos: did you see that enterprise fizzbuzz that gained popularity recently?
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<manveru> apeiros_: thx
<apeiros_> yw :)
<manveru> thought my client does that by itself... but haven't been disconnected for months
<apeiros_> :-/
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<andrewvos> injekt: nope where is it?
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<apeiros_> hehe, that's a nice one
<andrewvos> injekt: Elegant
<injekt> quite
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<injekt> lol
<apeiros_> in the inverse (as in: counter part to the universe), this would win all code-golfs
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<apeiros_> grmpf, mailcatcher crashes with encoding error
<apeiros_> what a bitch!
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<zzak> judofyr: ive got a problem for you
<judofyr> zzak: \o/
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<hramrach> hello
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<hramrach> I call ole method and I get return value on 9650
<hramrach> wtf does that mean?
<zzak> judofyr: i need tilt to give me utf-8
<judofyr> zzak: what should be in utf-8=
<judofyr> ?
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<zzak> a view for sinatra
<judofyr> so, you want the template engine to parse it as UTF-8? do you want the final rendered string to be UTF-8?
<apeiros_> hramrach: if that's your complete problem description, I doubt anybody can help you, due to lack of informations.
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<zzak> judofyr: it's literally just a view with some markdown in it
<zzak> judofyr: but im using my own markdown engine which includes rouge and only wants utf8
<judofyr> zzak: right, so is the problem that the data isn't read as utf8 by the parser?
<hramrach> apeiros_: what description is needed?
<judofyr> zzak: could yo try this branch? https://github.com/rtomayko/tilt/tree/minimal-encodings
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<hramrach> apeiros_: I did not find any example of error handling in any of the ole docs
<apeiros_> hramrach: a useful one? "I call ole method" is about as useless as it gets. try to think what information you'd need if you had to help.
<hramrach> this is an error, the call should return 0
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<hramrach> but I have no idea where to lookup error meaning
<judofyr> zzak: then in your template you can say: `def default_encoding; 'UTF-8'; end` and the input string will always UTF-8
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<hramrach> the method description in msdn includes 1 return value which is different
<judofyr> zzak: if you want to have it work with current Tilt, I guess you could just @data.force_encoding('UTF-8')
<jperry2> anyone have any suggestions on how to test the usage of PStore?
<jperry2> I'm using fakefs but doesn't seem to work together
<jperry2> I'd hate to have the tests actually write to the filesystem
<hramrach> specifically
<hramrach> WBEM_E_ENCRYPTED_CONNECTION_REQUIRED
<hramrach> 0x80041087
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<zzak> judofyr: ok, so pass :encoding to markdown() ?
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<hramrach> apeiros_: is interpreting error method specific? or is there any meaning to the number returned bu the extension at all?
<judofyr> zzak: if your template can only handle UTF-8, it's better to just force_encoding('UTF-8') in #prepare
<apeiros_> hramrach: you give zero context. you know, from what you've said so far I gather you're using the windows OLE interface. but nothing else. but with OLE I can't help.
<apeiros_> hramrach: context matters. people can't read your mind what you're doing or trying to do.
<apeiros_> they don't magically figure what precise method you called with what params etc.
<hramrach> I want to know what 9650 means
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<hramrach> does that depend on the method?
<apeiros_> it depends on your *context*.
<apeiros_> and yes, the method is quite probably part of it
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<apeiros_> after all, for 1000+8650, the 9650 means you've successfully added two integers…
<hramrach> of course, you need to call a method to get an error
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<zzak> judofyr: on @output?
<apeiros_> meh
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<manveru> there's a function to return a message for the error code i think
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<apeiros_> not in the mood to teach somebody to ask for help in a meaningful way.
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<judofyr> zzak: not sure how Redcarpet handles that stuff. you might need it on @output, yes
<hramrach> manveru: yes, such function would be awesome but none of the examples I saw invokes one
<gnufied> check documentation of OLE lib or OLE itself perhaps
<gnufied> not sure, if anyone can help with 9650
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<jperry2> probably just have to let PStore write the pstore file to disk since FakeFS doesn't play nice and ensure I clean up afterwards
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<eam> is there a way to turn off argument completion in OptionParser?
<zzak> judofyr: here's what i got https://github.com/zzak/glorify/commit/cab05d0
<zzak> now one empty string (F), and encoding error
<eam> I don't want to break future users by adding options and changing the availability of short versions
<judofyr> zzak: heh
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<hramrach> well, looking more closely there is WIN32OLERuntimeError which is an exception
<eam> eg I provide --example (which OptionParser helpfully allows to be used as -e) and then later supply --extra, so now the implicit "-e" option is invalid
<hramrach> and perl method Win32::OLE->LastError() for which ruby does not seem to have equivalent
<judofyr> zzak: that's odd. what does `p data.encoding` give you in #prepare?
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<zzak> judofyr: Encoding:UTF-8
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<judofyr> zzak: but that error doesn't come from your Template-class
<injekt> eam: I don't think you can disable it
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<eam> hrm
<eam> is there another recommended option parser?
<injekt> eam: i hear slop is pretty good
<injekt> >.>
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<zzak> judofyr: yup, woot now two empty asserts
<injekt> eam: disclaimer: i built it
<eam> injekt: I see :) thanks for the reco
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<manveru> i think you can just pass nil instead of short and it'll not make it
<eam> injekt: oh perfect, to_hash
<injekt> ah yeah that'll probably work
<eam> #1 thing I miss from perl Getopt::Long
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<zzak> require 'getoptlong'
<manveru> hm, no
<eam> zzak: I'm trying to remember why I avoided it -- there was something wrong with the ruby version
<injekt> it sucks?
<eam> I'll give it another shot
<manveru> hard
<zzak> its way better than slop
<injekt> eam: I would avoid it honestly
<injekt> zzak: haha
<zzak> lol
<eam> hahaha
<injekt> bro
<zzak> do you even parse?
<injekt> :D
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<manveru> huh
<manveru> ruby -roptparse -e 'OptionParser.new{|o| o.on("", "--long"){|s| p s } }.parse!' -- '--*-completion-zsh'
<manveru> sweet stuff
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<hramrach> since I don't get an exception and GetLastError does not exist on Ruby side I get no error interpretation :<
<manveru> eam: short options aren't documented in the --help, so i think people relying on it are at fault :)
<injekt> heh
<injekt> terrible
<zzak> judofyr: thanks, that fixed it i just need to switch my tests up a little
<eam> I gotta control the inputs and outputs of my program >:|
<zzak> <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 judofyr
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<manveru> then use slop or make yet another option parser, it's not like we have enough already
<injekt> :D
<injekt> not many good ones
<zzak> i like optparse
<injekt> yeah optparse is fine, just very repetitive for large option sets (pretty much why i originally built slop)
<zzak> like RDoc::Options
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<zzak> judofyr: btw, this is what got it working with current tilt: https://github.com/zzak/glorify/compare/8e90bd1176...6a159dfc74
<zzak> thanks again
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<judofyr> zzak: the correct way in Tilt 1.4 would be to define #default_encoding (and thus #data will be set correctly) and then Redcarpet *really* ought to return strings with UTF-8 encodings
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<zzak> judofyr: sinatra still uses tilt 1.2~1.3
<zzak> :(
<judofyr> zzak: 1.4 isn't released yet :)
<zzak> that too
<zzak> but sinatra 1.2 and 1.3 will be maintained for a while yet
<zzak> wondering if i should switch to a pure-ruby markdown parser, instead of redcarpet
<judofyr> I'm hoping Tilt 1.4 won't bring too many incompatbilities with it
<zzak> sweet
<zzak> im glad you're maintaining tilt now
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<zzak> keep up the good work!
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<mixandgo> why is *1 a syntax error ?
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<judofyr> zzak: thanks :)
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<ReinH> Oh hai
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<judofyr> oh hai ReinH
<judofyr> long time no see!
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<ReinH> judofyr: :)
<judofyr> ReinH: what's up?
<ReinH> judofyr: not much
<ReinH> you?
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<socksandsandals> hi all
<socksandsandals> having a weirdness with Time objects
<socksandsandals> it seems to be disrespecting the local time zone
<socksandsandals> anyone know what's going on here? https://gist.github.com/codeslinger/3837ffba420f7deea466
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<ReinH> judofyr: nice!
<socksandsandals> why is Time::at using EST and Time.now using EDT?
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<socksandsandals> nevermind, I figured it out; that date was in EST, whereas we are now in EDT
<socksandsandals> I have to figure out the local timezone for the date being submitted, not whatever timezone it is at the time of submission
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<TheNotary> does anyone know of a way to use gnupg on the command line, like `$ gnupg_bin message.txt public_key > encrypted_message.txt`
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<lianj> TheNotary: google does
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<TheNotary> lianj: I figured it was that way, thought I'd double check before I built something with gpgme
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<zzak> drbrain: am i missing something? https://gist.github.com/zzak/5198758
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<zzak> when i move that string to file.md and parse it with bin/rdoc it looks fine
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<rue> andrewvos: :)
<rue> It is…
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<injekt> hizzah
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<drbrain> zzak: delete line 5
<drbrain> and use doc = RDoc::Markdown.parse
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<drbrain> zzak: for ToC, use RDoc::Markup::ToTableOfContents
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<zzak> still get &lt; and &gt;'s
<zzak> and GFM code blocks show the lang
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<zzak> drbrain: you meant delete "opts.markup = 'github'" right?
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<drbrain> zzak: yes
<drbrain> that setting is used when parsing comments
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<zzak> ruby -rrdoc -e 'puts RDoc::Markdown.parse("```ruby\n puts foo;\n```").accept(RDoc::Markup::ToHtml.new(RDoc::Options.new, nil))'
<zzak> that works
<zzak> but this doesn't
<zzak> ruby -rrdoc -e 'puts RDoc::Markdown.parse("Hi mr. code block\n ```ruby\n puts foo;\n```").accept(RDoc::Markup::ToHtml.new(RDoc::Options.new, nil))'
<zzak> (i added 'Hi mr. code block\n ')
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<drbrain> add an extra newline after the paragraph
<drbrain> otherwise RDoc considers it inline ```
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<drbrain> ``` inline can be used to escape `code` inside a ```
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<zzak> ruby -rrdoc -e 'puts RDoc::Markdown.parse("Hi mr. code block\n\n ```ruby\n puts foo;\n```").accept(RDoc::Markup::ToHtml.new(RDoc::Options.new, nil))'
<zzak> i still get the escaped tags
<zzak> >> ruby -rrdoc -e 'puts RDoc::Markdown.parse("Hi mr. code block\n\n ```ruby\n puts foo;\n```").accept(RDoc::Markup::ToHtml.new(RDoc::Options.new, nil))'
<eval-in> zzak => /tmp/execpad-fde1a4f504a1/source-fde1a4f504a1:2: syntax error, unexpected unary-, expecting keyword_do or '{' or '(' ... (http://eval.in/13092)
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<drbrain> zzak: you have an extra space before `
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<injekt> wat
<drbrain> the <code> thing seems to be a bug
<injekt> >> 1
<eval-in> injekt => 1 (http://eval.in/13093)
<drbrain> injekt: eval-in evals anything following >>
<injekt> I see
<zzak> drbrain: oops, thanks!
<injekt> >> ->(){%%?????:??%}
<eval-in> injekt => #<Proc:0x41e9d5b8@/tmp/execpad-27295d7b343f/source-27295d7b343f:2 (lambda)> (http://eval.in/13094)
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<injekt> >> ->(){?????:??}
<eval-in> injekt => /tmp/execpad-1d495954241d/source-1d495954241d:2: warning: string literal in condition ... (http://eval.in/13095)
<injekt> heh
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<lianj> >> puts(rand(6) == 0 ? "Good thing these aren't real bullets..." : "-click-")
<eval-in> lianj => -click- ... (http://eval.in/13096)
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<postmodern> why doesn't OpenSSL::SSL::SSLSocket define #recv and #send methods?
<drbrain> postmodern: likely because they're pointless
<drbrain> oh, I was thinking of #recvfrom
<drbrain> and sendmsg
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<postmodern> drbrain, yeah those are UDP only
<drbrain> you can use them for TCP
<postmodern> drbrain, extending some TCP code to use SSL sockets, and need the behaviour of #recv
<drbrain> postmodern: I'd file a bug
<drbrain> I don't know why you'd use sendmsg/recvfrom with TCP though
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<postmodern> drbrain, I'm not using #recvfrom, I need to use #recv
<postmodern> drbrain, #recv != #recvfrom
<drbrain> I know, I was saying "you can use recvfrom/sendmsg with TCP sockets, but why would you"
<postmodern> ah right
<postmodern> yeah they ignore the additional arguments for TCP sockets
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<zzak> drbrain: any idea if rdoc has something like redcarpet's Redcarpet::Render::HTML#block_code ?
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<zzak> or how rdoc parses code blocks
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<drbrain> rdoc only understands ```ruby
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<drbrain> I'm only able to guess from the sparse documentation
<drbrain> excuse me, non-existent
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<zzak> :(
<drbrain> what does block_code do?
<zzak> you mean ruby is the only lexer?
<drbrain> yes, I didn't build any others in to RDoc
<apeiros_> >> [BasicObject.new].inspect
<eval-in> apeiros_ => /tmp/execpad-2ac9ea7fcff7/source-2ac9ea7fcff7:2:in `inspect': undefined method `inspect' for #<BasicObject:0x4196968c> (NoMethodError) ... (http://eval.in/13097)
<apeiros_> worthy a bug report?
<apeiros_> I suspect it'll be the same for Hash#inspect
<zzak> drbrain: parses fenced code blocks
<drbrain> apeiros_: worth a shot
<yorickpeterse> apeiros_: eh, that's not entirely a bug
<apeiros_> yet another reason to have an Introspection module :)
<drbrain> zzak: I'm unsure if I have hooks for adding extra lexers through a plugin or not
<yorickpeterse> #inspect is in Kernel, which isn't directly included into BasicObject
<apeiros_> yorickpeterse: correct. I still think Array#inspect and other collections should be able to return a String no matter what
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<apeiros_> yorickpeterse: that's besides the point
<yorickpeterse> well, BasicObject doesn't have #to_s so it can't :)
<apeiros_> it doesn't matter *why* BasicObject doesn't have inspect
<yorickpeterse> Having said that, it should have it
<zzak> drbrain: thats essentially what im trying to do
<yorickpeterse> as in, it makes no sense not to
<apeiros_> it doesn't matter why *any* element in the array doesn't have inspect
<apeiros_> no, I think it makes sense that BasicObject doesn't have it
<apeiros_> I think it'd even make sense if BasicObject had no methods at all.
<apeiros_> not even __send__ and __id__
<drbrain> zzak: this document seems to be the equivalent of "write an RDoc::Markup::Formatter" more than "write a lexer for syntax highlighting what goes in a code fence"
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<banisterfiend> apeiros_: wht about object_id? :)
<apeiros_> banisterfiend: none
<banisterfiend> ah it doesnt have it
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<drbrain> apeiros_: there is something in the guts of ruby to DTRT when an object misbehaves in its #inspect or #to_s
<drbrain> but it obviously doesn't do enough of the right thing
<apeiros_> drbrain: I'd wish for X (and X could actually be BasicObject, the class) with X.object_responds_to?(obj, method_name, priv=false), send_to_object(obj, meth, *args, &block), etc.
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<apeiros_> that'd allow to have a real BasicObject. not the half-assed try we have now.
<zzak> drbrain: have anything to do with Markup::ToHTML#accept_verbatim ?
<zzak> maybe i can just reopen the ToHTML formatter
<drbrain> zzak: yep, that's where such a hook would go
<Kero> myeah. undefined method inspect for -here it comes- #<BasicObject:0xdeadbeef> -- so it can print something (would be an interesting recursive exception, wouldn't it?)
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<apeiros_> Kero: no need for deadbeef currently. there's BasicObject#__id__
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<Kero> didn't want to copy eval-in's hexnumber
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<drbrain> zzak: a nice feature would be to extract that if statement in the middle there into a hash that can be filled in
<drbrain> … with extra lexers for syntax highlighting
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<zzak> hmm
<zzak> where does verbatim.ruby? come from?
<drbrain> zzak: do you use TAGS?
<zzak> oh Verbatim
<drbrain> yes
<zzak> i have ctags and tagbar
<banisterfiend> apeiros_: u could write a cute gem for that easily enough
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<banisterfiend> you'd obv. need to use C api though but it's ez
<apeiros_> banisterfiend: working on it. there's things I can't, though
<drbrain> zzak: then, :tag ruby? ☺
<drbrain> or ^] on the method name
<apeiros_> banisterfiend: e.g. I can't emulate Object#instance_variables
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<banisterfiend> apeiros_: well u can do it easily enough via C, have you been writing it in C ?
<zzak> no tags file found :(
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<apeiros_> banisterfiend: don't want to add C. no, pure ruby. moment…
<drbrain> zzak: put this in a `retag`: rm -f TAGS; /usr/local/bin/ctags -R --languages=Ruby,Lisp,YACC,C,C++ -f TAGS --exclude=".git|.svn|vendor|db|pkg" .
<drbrain> or wherever your CTAGS lives
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<zzak> whats a retag?
<drbrain> it rebuilds your TAGS file
<drbrain> like ~/bin/retag or an alias or something
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<zzak> got it
<zzak> thanks for the pointer
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<zzak> drbrain: so we add new format for different lexers?
<drbrain> or a plugin could provide it
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<drbrain> I guess github would have the canonical list
<apeiros_> banisterfiend: any clever idea how to emulate Object#instance_variables on BasicObject ?
<apeiros_> pure ruby
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<drbrain> apeiros_: seems you can't rebind Object.instance_method(:instance_variables) onto a BasicObject subclass
<apeiros_> nope
<banisterfiend> drbrain: what about in ruby 2.0?
<apeiros_> which is why I want that introspection module
<banisterfiend> you can rebind instance methods from modules to arbitrary classes
<drbrain> banisterfiend: I tried on p0
<banisterfiend> but not sure about from classes
<apeiros_> I can emulate ivar_get and ivar_set
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<drbrain> unless I did something wrong here:
<drbrain> class B < BasicObject; def initialize() @b = 1 end; end; b = B.new; p Object.instance_method(:instance_variables).bind(b).call
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<banisterfiend> drbrain: i got it working
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<apeiros_> interesting failure…
<apeiros_> >> Thread.current[BasicObject.new]
<eval-in> apeiros_ => /tmp/execpad-da2fb45107ff/source-da2fb45107ff:2:in `[]': undefined method `inspect' for #<BasicObject:0x42269674> (NoMethodError) ... (http://eval.in/13109)
<apeiros_> note the exception…
<apeiros_> drbrain: no, Object is not an ancestor of BasicObject
<apeiros_> hence can't bind
<banisterfiend> drbrain: apeiros_: https://gist.github.com/banister/5200704
<apeiros_> banisterfiend: oh, nice
<drbrain> banisterfiend: :D
<apeiros_> and without modifying BasicObject?
<apeiros_> hm… the newly defined method should be able to rebind…
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<apeiros_> banisterfiend: hm, in 1.9 that doesn't work, right?
<banisterfiend> yeah it wont work in 1.9
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<apeiros_> :(
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<apeiros_> drbrain, banisterfiend: https://gist.github.com/apeiros/acca4c51a4ebca5cfa8e (1.9 compatible - no instance_variables, though)
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<banisterfiend> apeiros_: crazy
<banisterfiend> but k00
<apeiros_> oy, self. omitted for several methods
<apeiros_> which leads to an interesting conclusion I just verified…
<apeiros_> >> BasicObject === BasicObject
<eval-in> apeiros_ => true (http://eval.in/13110)
<drbrain> apeiros_: but BasicObject is a Class, for which that will be true
<apeiros_> weird…
<apeiros_> >> BasicObject.instance_of?(BasicObject)
<eval-in> apeiros_ => false (http://eval.in/13111)
<apeiros_> ah, stupid me
<apeiros_> >> BasicObject.kind_of?(BasicObject)
<eval-in> apeiros_ => true (http://eval.in/13112)
<apeiros_> that's the one I wanted :)
<drbrain> if we had BasicClass then you should get NoMethodError
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<apeiros_> anyway, updated the gist. it still has a couple of holes. also a couple of methods are still missing.
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<zzak> drbrain: i wonder if we could do something like this for rdoc: https://github.com/jayferd/rouge/blob/master/lib/rouge/plugins/redcarpet.rb
<drbrain> most likely, yes
<ryanf> whitequark: isn't that code climate security stuff basically just a wrapper over brakeman?
<drbrain> ryanf: code climate is an amalgamation of open source tools
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<zzak> just dont know what we need to do to get there :/
<whitequark> ryanf: oh.
<drbrain> zzak: I'd start by writing an rdoc plugin
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<drbrain> then make the necessary change to ToHtml to allow the plugin to function
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<ryanf> drbrain: I actually totally didn't know that
<ryanf> banisterfiend just said it uses flog/flay too
<drbrain> yeah
<ryanf> it doesn't seem like he goes out of his way to publicize it
<drbrain> it's free for open-source projects
<drbrain> he's mostly targeting businesses
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<apeiros_> banisterfiend: pry's inspect of BasicObjects is off
<banisterfiend> apeiros_: how so
<drbrain> and if you ask him I'm fairly sure he'll tell you everything he uses
<whitequark> drbrain: him?
<apeiros_> banisterfiend: http://pastie.org/6633172
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<apeiros_> a) forgot <<1, b) forgot 14 digit hex
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<ryanf> drbrain: fair enough
<ryanf> whitequark: brynary
<drbrain> whitequark: Bryan Helmkamp
<drbrain> ryanf: I think it's fair to market the way he does
<banisterfiend> apeiros_: ah, ok, thanks
<whitequark> banisterfiend: why doesn't pry inspect objects for which #inspect is clearly defined?
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<whitequark> it just outputs #<Foo:0xabadyouknowwho> as if it was calling default to_s somehow
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<banisterfiend> whitequark: where? inside the prompt or what?
<whitequark> banisterfiend: yeah inside the prompt
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<banisterfiend> whitequark: cos prompts become ridiculously large if we put the full inspect in there
<banisterfiend> so we just default to an ultra-clipped inspect for the prompt
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<banisterfiend> except for a few objects which we make exceptions for, like small strings etc
<whitequark> banisterfiend: how do I add an exception?
<banisterfiend> whitequark: let me check, im not sure we have exposed api for it yet
<banisterfiend> whitequark: we use Pry.view_clip https://gist.github.com/05c010390400e8080306
<banisterfiend> whitequark: so u'd have to patch that i guess, but we can add proper api for it if u like, just file an issue https://github.com/pry/pry/issues
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<apeiros_> so, bed-time. last update of https://gist.github.com/apeiros/acca4c51a4ebca5cfa8e
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<apeiros_> if anybody has clever ideas, tell me
<banisterfiend> whitequark: but u can always just define your own prompt
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<banisterfiend> whitequark: we learned the hard way not to do a full inspect in there :) for example, some people were doing binding.pry inside really huge objects (i.e with megs of json/xml data in them)
<banisterfiend> and pry wouldn't even load up
<banisterfiend> cos it would be taking mins/hours just to show the prompt :)
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<whitequark> banisterfiend: well I have a reason to wrap practically every small ruby object in a proxy
<whitequark> and unwrapping all of them manually sucks
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<banisterfiend> whitequark: we could add a Pry.config.safe_to_inspect option which has Fixnum, false, nil etc in there by default, and you could append your own stuff to it
<banisterfiend> just havne't had anyone ask for it yet
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<whitequark> banisterfiend: #885
<banisterfiend> whitequark: btw, if your objects take a really long time to inspect in pry (outside the prompt, just for evaluation output) you can press ^C and it'll quit the #inspect and just show a Pry.view_clip version of it
<banisterfiend> i've found that really handy when working with json
<banisterfiend> whitequark: thanks
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