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postmodern >
how do you specify a ASCII literal String in ruby 2.0?
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drbrain >
a) # coding: US-ASCII at the top of the file
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drbrain >
b) force_encoding
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postmodern >
ah ha, thank you
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drbrain >
note that b) only works for US-ASCII, but not for ISO-8859-1
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postmodern >
drbrain, is it encoding or coding, or do both work?
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drbrain >
for the magic comment, both work
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warreng >
is there an Iterator method similar to "find" but which returns the result of the block rather than member? [1,2,3,4,5].find { |j| some_method(j) } <-- if some_method were to return true, that .find() returns 1-5 rather than the result of some_method(j).... i don't want to run some_method twice... and i don't want to do [1,2,3,4,5].map { |j| some_method[j] }.first because this would process all entries rather than stopping once it found someth
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drbrain >
warreng: you can use map + break
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<
drbrain >
rather, each + break
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warreng >
[1,2,3,4,5].each { |j| some_method[j] && break } ?
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drbrain >
.each { |item| item = transform item; break item if condition }
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warreng >
"break item" haha
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drbrain >
p [1, 2, 3].each { |item| item *= 2; break item if item > 3 }
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drbrain >
ordinarily #each would return the original enumerable
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warreng >
didn't know break worked that way.. thanks :-D
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drbrain >
next does too
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drbrain >
sometimes I write .map { |item| next unless condition; … }.compact
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drbrain >
which is like map + select
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warreng >
oh i like that better actually
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warreng >
no temp variable
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drbrain >
provided, of course, that nil isn't a useful value for whatever you're doing
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warreng >
transformation method takes input and returns nil or a value i want
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warreng >
if it's a value, i don't need to look any further in the enumerable
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warreng >
.map { |item| next unless condition; … }.last
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warreng >
that'd work too?
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warreng >
since compact would still leave an array
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drbrain >
I think you would want .compact.last
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drbrain >
.map { |item| next unless condition; … } examines all the elements
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drbrain >
each + break stops at the matching elements
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warreng >
arr = [3,4]; [1,2,3,4,5].each { |i| break i if arr.include?(i) }
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warreng >
that's equivalent to .find
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warreng >
arr = [3,4]; [1,2,3,4,5].each { |i| obj = arr.include?(i); break obj if obj }
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warreng >
is what i want i believe
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drbrain >
are you comparing arrays like that?
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drbrain >
if so: p [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] & [3, 4, 6]
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warreng >
substitute that for a "very expensive function"
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drbrain >
if you were, ↑ is the shortcut
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drbrain >
yeah, that sounds like what you want
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warreng >
"given a list of urls, execute a method that does an http get, looks at content, and returns nil or a hash of parsed content"
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warreng >
is more or less the "expensive function"
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drbrain >
you can also put that in a method, so blah.each { obj = arr.include? obj; return obj if obj }; return nil
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warreng >
where i don't want to do a single unnecessary http-get
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warreng >
cool, that each-break works
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warreng >
would be nice if it could be done with no temp varaible, but taht's good enough
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drbrain >
if you're on ruby 2 you can also use .lazy
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drbrain >
so urls.lazy.map {…}.find
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warreng >
drbrain: hrmm... that .map break doesn't quite work... if nothing is found, that returns the original enumerator
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drbrain >
warreng: yeah, which is why you should wrap it in a method
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drbrain >
urls.each { …; return obj if obj }; return nil
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drbrain >
you can put a nice meaningful name on it too :D
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warreng >
thoughts ?
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drbrain >
use yield obj instead of &block/block.call(obj)
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drbrain >
but, I don't like monkey patching
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drbrain >
oh, and you should probably put it in module Enumerable
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drbrain >
as an enumerator is enumerable
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drbrain >
so, while I don't like monkey patching, I do want you to have the best possible monkey patch
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warreng >
i'm not a huge fan of monkey patching either... but that one seems pretty harmless + convenient
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andrewvos >
warreng: couldn't #include? give you what you need?
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andrewvos >
I don't understand
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andrewvos >
You and Nate Dog make some good music warreng
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andrewvos >
by the way
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warreng >
andrewvos: sorry, i was using arr.include? as an example of what i was trying to accomplish (run a method and get the value)...
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warreng >
that's not actually what i was trying to do...
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andrewvos >
what are you trying to do?
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warreng >
read the convo above?
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andrewvos >
warreng: on an iphone so i am about as useful as a chocolate teapot right now sorry
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andrewvos >
zzak: that is a good song
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warreng >
Array#find is close but it returns the iterator, not the value returned in the block
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warreng >
i want the value itself
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warreng >
.map { ... }.compact.first is close but that keeps going after it finds a result... i want the first and then to stop
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andrewvos >
protip: i an drunk too
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lianj >
.map{ }.find{|i| i }
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andrewvos >
warreng: it seems from your snippet that you are already passing the value in though
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andrewvos >
if it is already known to you, what's the problem
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andrewvos >
wait if drbrain answered you already then you probably have the right answer
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warreng >
andrewvos: imagina an array of URLs.... return to me the HTML of the first URL that contains the word "octopus" using the least amount of HTTP gets
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warreng >
.map would do an http get for every url, but we want to stop when we find the first successful one
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warreng >
.find would stop but returns the url, not the HTML
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warreng >
i was hoping there was a magic method that did what i wanted.. answer was no... so i monkey patched enumerable with a .find_value which works like #find but returns the value instead of the key
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lsegal >
inject could do it assuming break works inside of it
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lsegal >
it wouldn't look as pretty though
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lsegal >
warreng [1,2,3].inject(nil) {|_,x| break 10*x if x == 2 }
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andrewvos >
warreng: stop trying for the shortest amount of lines do an each and use the return keyword. Get shit done.
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bougyman >
¢∞˙∆˚¬å∂¨ƒ\´∑®˙
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andrewvos >
bougyman: Exactly.
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andrewvos >
don't monkey patch all the things :(
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andrewvos >
Kernel is cry
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<
yorickpeterse >
morning
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<
charliesome >
yorickpeterse: mornink
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<
yorickpeterse >
Such a lovely day today...if it wasn't for the strong wind and low temperature
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charliesome >
sounds like a good day
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<
yorickpeterse >
apparently it's around 5C outside
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andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: Snowing here :)
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yorickpeterse >
heh, fucking wunderground
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<
yorickpeterse >
Search for "Busan, South Korea", click on the calendar for April, it redirects me to a city for Japan
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<
yorickpeterse >
riiiiiiight, they still write it with a P
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tbuehlmann >
-4,1°C here, sun is shining
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yorickpeterse >
god damn it, it's already 14C in SK :<
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yorickpeterse >
it better stays that way when I get there
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andrewvos >
I miss warmth
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<
yorickpeterse >
yeah
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<
yorickpeterse >
fuck this weather
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andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: Going to Slovakia?
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* rue
smacks andrewvos a few lines higher
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andrewvos >
oh shit
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andrewvos >
Korea? Cool!
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yorickpeterse >
lol, somewhat of a difference
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yorickpeterse >
only about 9000 KM
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yorickpeterse >
But yeah, SK
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yorickpeterse >
if anybody needs some SNSD videos/CDs I'm not getting them
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andrewvos >
can you buy me some dvdss?
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rue >
yorickpeterse: Using ROK would probably be less confusing…
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How about South Korea?
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rue: FINE, GLORIOUS COUNTRY OF COREA
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yorickpeterse >
also why is it smashed
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whitequark >
not burning it
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whitequark >
I am burning a candle on top of it
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whitequark >
and it is smashed because it could not sustain a collision with a wall
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yorickpeterse >
is this some crazy ritual needed to understand parse.y?
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whitequark >
burning candles, yes, is a part of it
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yorickpeterse >
also for some reason I always expected whitequark to be bald
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yorickpeterse >
though I have no idea why
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: your posture is terrible btw, fix that
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yorickpeterse >
and if you do, please don't sleep next to dead bodies
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whitequark >
I'm not SCP-447
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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yorickpeterse >
No, in the original story Quasimodo slept next to Esmeraldas dead body for quite a long time
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yorickpeterse >
until he died himself I believe
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yorickpeterse >
fuckit, vidya games
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andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: what ya playing?
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rue >
andrewvos: Sims3
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charliesome >
i have stumbled into a dark corner of mri
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charliesome >
send help
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injekt >
all 5 corners are dark
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whitequark >
charliesome: are there non-dark corners
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whitequark >
also my company will soon purchase the iso standard for me
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charliesome >
nice!
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charliesome >
so yeah debugging this segfault issue
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kristofferrr >
Is it customary to include VCR cassettes for testing with source code or is it better to just git ignore them?
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whitequark >
kristofferrr: that could make distribution cumbersome
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whitequark >
physically mailing VCR cassettes...
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whitequark >
and think of CI!
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whitequark >
even if you mail them the cassettes, they will just ignore them!
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kristofferrr >
:P They're fixtures for web calls.
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whitequark >
kristofferrr: yeah I know
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whitequark >
that's why I have told you about CI
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injekt >
what's with all the twitter hate for sinatra?
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injekt: what happened?
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andrewvos >
people hate sinatra?
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whitequark >
my boss does
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lianj >
he read a rails book?
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whitequark >
he runs a rails shop
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whitequark >
but that doesn't matter
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zzak >
whats there to hate, honestly? its such a small library
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zzak >
and it stays out of your way, just doing what it does
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whitequark >
the problem with it is that it's way too small
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zzak >
too small for what
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whitequark >
for anything serious you'll just write an incomplete and buggy clone of rails, or parts thereof
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zzak >
so heroku, github, those apps arent serious?
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zzak >
so because someone develops a buggy clone of something with it, that makes it bad?
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whitequark >
meh why are you arguing with ME
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zzak >
i imagine we've both witnessed some pretty awful rails apps out there, but does that mean rails is bad?
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whitequark >
partly, yes
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whitequark >
but I don't hate sinatra
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whitequark >
irclogger runs on it
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i just dont see why anyone would
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unless they were using it incorrectly
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zzak >
whitequark: i didnt say you did, but i just dont understand the logic
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rue >
Why is it an argument?
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rue >
Sinatra is what it is. If you need more, then you have Padrino
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what if you need less?
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zzak >
i would have also accepted (a) net-http and (b) rue
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nmeum >
zzak: if you need less you use cuba
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or just plain old rack
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I write my web apps in ASM for performance
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yorickpeterse >
I target x86 for maximum performance, both in terms of runtime and development time
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andrewvos >
Current status: New Raspberry Pi, Raspbmc, External HD and new LED TV :)
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andrewvos >
Holy shit this little thing is cool
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drbrain: I’m guessing you don’t have access to
http://rdoc.sourceforge.net/ , right? I accidentally ended up on that site a while ago and was massively confused at first
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ddfreyne: I don't, but someday I'll be able to get Dave Thomas + network + laptop together to get access to the sf rdoc project
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zzak: just stuff on twitter about it, I didn't think there was much to hate..
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injekt: oh well
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if i want to use unicode characters in a test, does the test file have to be encoded in utf-8 as well?
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seems like an obvious question
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oh, rvm and rbx can die
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injekt >
rvm has cost me so many hours
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looks like theres already a ticket open for it
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get this one all the time
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injekt >
ruby-head shouldn't that be 2.1?
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zzak >
it might actually be that travis needs to update rvm
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injekt >
yeah ruby-head should in no way be 2.0.0dev
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injekt >
that's like ruby-yesterday
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drbrain >
injekt: I think there are arcane rules for when the numbers get bumped
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injekt >
drbrain: heh yeah probably
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zzak >
and rbx-19mode always gives me a regex error on my rdoc related gems
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i would file a ticket on travis for the rvm thing, but im not sure where to go
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too many repos on their org
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I'd just ping khaase
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khaase: help me rkh, you're my only hope
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khaase: kitten lives are in danger!
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evening all
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Anyone know how I can include empty pairs from merged hashes?
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hnanon: What does that mean?
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rue: I have three hashtables and each has a single pair.
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hnanon >
I merged the first two, then merged that result with the third.
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All three have the same key.
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The problem is that if there is an empty pair in one of the hashes, nothing is returned; I need to return 0.00, for example.
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Maybe use a block
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Also, code is much simpler for explanations
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{a: 1}.merge({a: 2}).merge({a: nil}) I assume?
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drbrain: hah
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whitequark: what is this madness
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hnanon >
Anyone available to help?
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can't tell without knowing the details
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hnanon: what you need dude?
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Hmmm any idea where to get an appealing yardoc style? The default is awful :(
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soahccc: Have you tried yard sales?
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How can I include a default pair for empty k/v's in a hash?
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not sure i follow