apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p0: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p392) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<wardrop> Does anyone know how to get an open-source project noticed? I'm just trying to get the ball rolling on a project of mine, Scorched - http://scorchedrb.com.
<wardrop> I don't really want to go around spamming forums and such. Not really my style.
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<breakingthings> wardrop: twitterify that shit. or something.
<drbrain> wardrop: write a cool app, put it on heroku
<drbrain> then twittery it
<breakingthings> whut drbrain said because hes a smart man
<breakingthings> he's 90% brain after all
<wardrop> breakingthings: Who do I @ my twitter post to?
<drbrain> 5/7 is only about 71%
<wardrop> I'm not a big twitter user, so forgive me
<breakingthings> wardrop: people who might be interested
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<breakingthings> yell at rails people
<breakingthings> except dhh
<breakingthings> he'll murder you
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<breakingthings> drbrain: but you only use your doctorate knowledge 10% of the time
<drbrain> it's not a real doctorate, I just went to a diploma mill
<breakingthings> oh ok
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<drbrain> otherwise I'd be more like Dr_Brain
<wardrop> I think Sinatra users would be the most interested, but would it be appropriate to get on to Sinatra communication channels like Mailing Lists and IRC and start sprucing my wares?
<breakingthings> wardrop: if you're a glutton for punishment you could post it on hackernews
<drbrain> reddit.com/r/ruby is a reasonable place too
<zzak> wardrop: sure, post an [ANN] to sinatrarb@googlegroups.com
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<kentos> LOL at "otherwise I'd be more like Dr_Brain", also, wardrop, have you sent a mail to Peter Cooper? He has a mailing list some rubyists (me at least) subscribe to. http://peterc.org/
<kentos> he used to do an even cooler podcast with this other guy, but I think that's been discontinued due to time constraints.
<kentos> oops, by mailing list I mean news letter. It's good stuff usually.
<wardrop> Thanks for the suggestion guys.
<wardrop> Feel free t check it out yourselves too :P
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<firefux> wardrop: is thread-safe?
<firefux> +it
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<wardrop> Yes, should be
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<wardrop> firefux: Sorry, that was in response to you firefux.
<wardrop> firefux: It currently crashes (segfault) under Phusion Passenger using Ruby 2.0.0. This is a bug with Ruby 2.0.0 though, rather than Scorched.
<wardrop> The segfault is fixed by running Passenger in direct spawn mode, rather than smart.
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<cads> hey guys I was wondering if anyone has played with bitcoin-ruby?
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<ddfreyne> drbrain: Poke.
<drbrain> ddfreyne: hello
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<ddfreyne> drbrain: Having some RDoc trouble here. rdoc --version says 4.0.0, but require 'rdoc' loads rdoc 3.9.x (built-in rdoc, I presume)
<drbrain> ddfreyne: ruby 1.9? did you gem 'rdoc', '~> 4.0' ?
<ddfreyne> Hm, no. I’ll try that
<drbrain> ruby 2 will automatically prefer the gem version
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<ddfreyne> drbrain: RDoc::VERSION should contain a string with the version, right?
<drbrain> yep
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<ddfreyne> drbrain: Prints 3.9.5 even after gem 'rdoc', '~> 4.0'
<ddfreyne> drbrain: This is on 1.9.3
<ddfreyne> latest patchlevel
<drbrain> what about:
<drbrain> ruby -e 'gem "rdoc"; require "rdoc"; p RDoc::VERSION'
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<ddfreyne> drbrain: 4.0.0
<drbrain> so it's likely that somebody loaded rdoc before gem 'rdoc'
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<ddfreyne> That’s it :)
<ddfreyne> Thanks!
<drbrain> sweet
<ddfreyne> (The loading was quite subtle though, abstracted away)
<ddfreyne> Now all that remains is to fix the ERB segfaults… bleh. ;)
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<ddfreyne> Banistergalaxy: ping
<ddfreyne> (I have two questions!!!)
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<ddfreyne> ohai yorickpeterse
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<yorickpeterse> hai
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<injekt> hai
<imperator> why the hell am i awake this early?
<bougyman> same question
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<ddfreyne> define early
<Kero> being awake early is one thing, complaining about it on IRC is another ;)
<wnd> compaining on irc is still a valid method of trying to fix the situation
<Kero> oh, I should discuss solutions, like pretending you are in another timezone?
<wnd> most of the time I ask something or complain about something on IRC the problem is solved a second after I've pressed enter
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<fowl> weebles wobble, but they dont fall down.
<wnd> I'm not sure how well that works with time related issues, though
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<yorickpeterse> I'd rather do that than throw my laptop across the room
<yorickpeterse> Isn't the sole purpose of IRC to function as a way for devs to vent?
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<fowl> yorickpeterse: i'd rather you throw your laptop across the room than use it to "vent" your horribly taxing first world problems
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<yorickpeterse> fowl: I'm sorry but complaining about first world problems is more important than actually fixing them
<andrewvos> Same with third world problems, it seems.
<fowl> fixed arity
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<charliesome> what's the opposite of "variadic"?
<charliesome> is there a single word though
<fowl> no because variadic is a programming term
<charliesome> dang it
<imperator> how about just "fixed"
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<yorickpeterse> oh nice, it seems that Euruko is going down the invited speakers road
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<yonen> Hey, I have an issue with  Process.spawn, I'm using the :out option to output stdout to a file, but it seems to only flush the stream when the application ends, is there any way to have it output to the file as stdout gets data? I want to use this a log but I can't see 'live' info
<yorickpeterse> You'll want to use the Open3 module for that
<yorickpeterse> It provides various methods (e.g. .popen2e) for that
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<apeiros_> yorickpeterse: I thought spawn was supposed to replace all those OpenN solutions, no?
<yorickpeterse> Eh, I believe it's basically the same as system/``
<yorickpeterse> though system() pipes it directly to your console
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<apeiros_> spawn? definitively not the same as system…
<yorickpeterse> As in, they're not a replacement
<judofyr> Process.spawn can do everything that system can do
<yorickpeterse> (I'm a bit grumpy so I probably won't make a lot of sense atm)
<judofyr> Process.spawn <3
<judofyr> (although you often have to use IO.pipe to get proper stdin/out/err
<apeiros_> judofyr: yes, and afaik also all that Open3, Open4 and whichever else there are by now
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<apeiros_> it could have a simpler interface indeed
<Qwak> Hello, please what is wrong in my code? http://pastebin.com/4XbqCaST VS showing me some error witch creating new Drivers : Cannot apply indexing with [] To an expression of type System.Array ...?
<yorickpeterse> Open1999
<Qwak> *with
<apeiros_> Qwak: wrong channel
<yorickpeterse> Qwak: that's C#
<yorickpeterse> Not Ruby
<judofyr> Qwak: I'll tell you what's wrong: it's C# :-)
<Qwak> aaah sorry !!!
<apeiros_> or indeed, yes, wrong language :o)
<Qwak> my fault, sorry
<judofyr> :)
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<yorickpeterse> GARRRGGGGH, issue I spent a few hours on: fucking wrong credentials because I'm blind
<yorickpeterse> key pair 1 can access resource A, key pair 2 only B. I need both
<yorickpeterse> hmpf
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<andrewvos> haha
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<scepticulous> I am trying to parse an xml document that contains & characters. To avoid errors, I am looking for the best way to escape ampersands before parsing the document.
<judofyr> scepticulous: .gsub('&', '&amp;')?
<judofyr> scepticulous: and technically, that's not a XML document ;)
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<scepticulous> judofyr: that correct, but the data is generated by a foreign software. I hope & is the only none-xml character. That's why I was thinking that gsub may miss other charachters
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<yorickpeterse> GARARRHJGHGHGHGH FUCKING BUNDLER
<yorickpeterse> STOP FUCKING TRYING TO VENDOR SHIT
* yorickpeterse rages
<wmoxam> BLUNDER!!!
<yorickpeterse> Pretty much, I'm this close to buying a shovel and paying these people a visit
<yorickpeterse> I heard their gardens are pretty messy
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<ykk> hey is it possible to solve this problem on Ruby Monk by using a reg ex on the object word?
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<imperator> Blundler....
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<oddmunds> hehe
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<drbrain> imperator: I found out how to get VSIZE and RSS on OS X (with FFI*), but you need superuser privileges to get them for other processes
<drbrain> (* actually fiddle)
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<imperator> drbrain, interesting
* imperator isn't familiar with fiddle
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<drbrain> it's an FFI wrapper
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<drbrain> I'm fairly certain that code is not portable past x86_64 OS X 10.8
<drbrain> the header values in the constants vary between archictectures
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<imperator> ah, that would be a pain
<imperator> i actually started looking at converting sys-proctable to ffi, but lost the will to continue once i realized how deeply nested the structs were
<drbrain> I used a C compiler to find them ☹
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<imperator> i should really try out the auto struct layout stuff
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<imperator> although, now that I'm looking at it, it seems you still have to do some manual layout...blech
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<lempface> I have an xpath question. the data looks like this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5189243, and I would like to perform a query that gives me a list of all the <FILE> elements but only from the highest priority. Any suggestions?
<fowl> try #js #webfags #jquery #xpath #somethingalongthoselines
<lempface> I've asked here because people in the past have been very helpful with xpath
<lempface> nokogiri
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<stephenp> cross asking because the rspec channel is d.e.a.d. -- i'm trying to create spec examples programmatically - but RSpec::Core::Example.new doesn't seem to respect any arguments that I pass to it. shouldn't @example_block be the Proc that that I /just passed in/? https://gist.github.com/stephenprater/5190175
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<soahccc> Uhh is this right? The source for #included is just sort of dummy threeliner and just returning nil :/ http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Module.html#method-i-included
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<drbrain> soahccc: I can't recall, but it may be because the source is in a different file than rb_define_method
<yorickpeterse> Conference question: if somebody were to talk about the process of parsing code, analysing it (as well as some other bits such as Ruby parser "wats"), what would you be most interested in
<yorickpeterse> My super nerdy brain is having a hard time selecting something slightly less "lost" people can understand
<fowl> yorickpeterse: do you mean like writing a parser
<fowl> or how ruby parses
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<yorickpeterse> both
<yorickpeterse> basically I want to talk about bits of the process that I went through for writing my linter (though not focusing on the linter itself), so it's part of that
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<fowl> yorickpeterse: talk about how to write a stateful parser and use it to parse infix exprs with precedence
<yorickpeterse> I think that will cause people to fall asleep
<yorickpeterse> I have no intention of doing that and then looking at them with a creepy face as they wake up
<fowl> if someone falls asleep on you you should make creepy faces at them as they wake up *at a minimum*
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<yorickpeterse> ha wtf
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<yorickpeterse> so I have two equal and somewhat large objects. Merely referencing these takes up no extra memory
<yorickpeterse> However! The moment I compare them in my tests the memory usage jumps up by 40MB
<yorickpeterse> ha! It appears to be a Bacon related issue
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<zenspider> yorickpeterse: minitest's diff might be a bit better on memory since I simply inspect out to tempfiles and use `diff -u`
<zenspider> ok.. here we go...
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<zenspider> minitest version 4.7.0 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/03/minitest-version-4-7-0-has-been-released.html
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<zenspider> rake-remote_task version 2.2.1 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://t.co/SDX1Jso7Mp
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<zzak> wardrop_: see, its ok to announce a release of your software :)
<zzak> its welcomed even
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<wardrop> zzak: haha
<zenspider> ruby_parser version 3.1.2 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/03/ruby_parser-version-3-1-2-has-been-released.html
<wardrop> I've heard shamelessly announcing releases is what zenspider is best known for.
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<zenspider> it's true
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<zzak> more like "shamelessly releasing"
<zenspider> all of the above :P
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<zenspider> sexp_processor version 4.2.0 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/03/sexp_processor-version-4-2-0-has-been-released.html
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<zenspider> hoe version 3.5.2 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/03/hoe-version-3-5-2-has-been-released.html
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<zenspider> ok... that's it for today
<zenspider> and I'm caught up with my backlog
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<zzak> zenspider: +1
<andrewvos> How do you pronounce sexp?
<zzak> s-exp
<zenspider> sex-pee
<andrewvos> ahaha
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<zzak> hahaha
<zenspider> ess-expression is too long
<blowmage> zenspider: woo hoo on the minitest release!
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<zenspider> blowmage: I thought you'd like that
<zenspider> blowmage: I need to talk to you
<blowmage> i'm here and on im
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<andrewvos> anyone ever gad SMART break on a mac?
<andrewvos> that's what disk utility says
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<andrewvos> had*
<andrewvos> halp
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<andrewvos> no way
<andrewvos> mind blown
<andrewvos> they will repair it for free
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