apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.1; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p643: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on https://gist.github.com
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<casshern2> Is this how ruby is supposed to behave? (nooby question) https://gist.github.com/Luomint/24da23ec5980bb318c98/1134008659fcba64270264339f31b6caeabd5ed1
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<|jemc|> casshern2: ruby doesn't have multiple dispatch
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<|jemc|> casshern2: so when you define a method again in the same module, you're overwriting the original definition
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<|jemc|> if you're trying to define a getter and setter, try `def price=(amount); ... end` and `bil.price = 59`
<casshern2> yea that worked and it didn't overwrite
<casshern2> but I was wondering why the syntactic version didn't overwrite
<|jemc|> because they are two different method names
<|jemc|> `price=` is not the same method name as `price`
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<casshern2> ah yea lol, that's what was confusing me, thanks
<|jemc|> `price=` happens to be a special name in that it has syntax sugar for calling it that looks like assignment
<casshern2> so it becomes a part of it's name
<|jemc|> yeah, it's just a special case for method names
<|jemc|> there are some other similar ones, like for element access with `def [](key); ... end` being used like: `obj['foo']`
<darix> sometimes i think it would be good to add pry to the topic. so people play more in a repl with ruby
<darix> so much to discover that way
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<casshern2> |jemc| cool, ty
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<doppler> hey, i'm new to Ruby and was hoping you guys could shed some light. ive created this script (a simple calculator). it splits the user input into an array and bla bla bla. its probably a dumb question, but could someone please explain as to why i dont need to define the array before "gets.chomp.split". heres the source: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/029ce03a604887665849
<doppler> oh dear god. actually, that was a stupid question. the array was already defined as "str". shoot.... :P
<doppler> if you guys (and gals?) could ignore my almost idiotic question, that'd be greaaaaat. =)
<doppler> any improvements to the code is much appreciated though
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<alxndr> doppler: check out exercism.io, it has a bunch of exercises in the form of ruby (and other languages) test specs which you can practice on, and a community of folks to help refactor and discuss each other's code
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> For somebody who's supposed to do Ruby I write an awful lot of Javascript lately
<yorickpeterse> now if only this language wasn't so retarded
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: heh :) I know that feeling
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<yorickpeterse> stupid JS libraries are all asynchronous, and I actually need them to be synchronous for PhantomJS
<yorickpeterse> and sadly just overwriting setTimeout seems to cause hell to erupt
<yorickpeterse> Although I do appreciate Chromium's debugging/perf tools
<yorickpeterse> beats any existing Ruby tools by a mile
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<workmad3> yeah chrome/chromium developer tools is a pretty awesome setup
<universaL> yorickpeterse: why do you need them to be synchronous for phantomjs?
<workmad3> and it's nice that you can extend it too (recently got around to install Rails Panel, so I can now pull a bunch of rails info into dev tools :) )
<workmad3> *installing
<yorickpeterse> universaL: this particular app uses Phantom to render HTML, which uses some JS to build SVG based graphs
<yorickpeterse> I need Phantom to wait with exiting until the graphs are all there
<yorickpeterse> But since it's done in an asynchronous manner Phantom can't know (out of the box) when that is
<universaL> yorickpeterse: i see :-) maybe look at how capybara/poltergeist does it
<yorickpeterse> So what happens is that _sometimes_ your output doesn't show any graphs
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<yorickpeterse> universaL: most just use setTimeout(..., 5000)
<yorickpeterse> which is disgusting
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: oh, bleh... but you can ask Phantom if certain elements exist, yes?
<yorickpeterse> workmad3: the list of elements can be infinite
<yorickpeterse> Right now I'm hacking in sort of a counter and have phantom wait until it reaches 0, not sure yet if this is going to work for larger outputs
<universaL> hmm, why not have a status attribute on the body tag, and check if it's set? if not wait for another second and check again? ;)
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: well, I was thinking more that you're likely to have a finite set of container elements knowable in-advance... or the ability to insert a hidden div with a specific ID at the end of a chain
<yorickpeterse> universaL: that's effectively the same
<yorickpeterse> workmad3: No, the phantom code itself doesn't really know anything about what it's rendering
<universaL> somewhat yeah, but soudns simpler ;)
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: or maybe even the ability to insert a phantomjs based callback into the end of the pipe so it only gets called when stuff is ready
<yorickpeterse> it just knows it's rendering something
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: you can inspect the HTML using CSS and xpath selectors (otherwise capybara couldn't use a phantomjs driver)
<yorickpeterse> As in, this is literally all Phantom itself does:
<yorickpeterse> workmad3: I know that, but having Phantom watch dozens of elements isn't very convenient either
<yorickpeterse> and the presence of a certain element doesn't mean it's completely finished
<yorickpeterse> e.g. I could check the outer most <svg> element of a graph, but that one is inserted first so there still would not be a guarantee everything was finished by the time Phantom exits
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: ah, I'm suggesting that the page itself should be modified to emit a particular element when it's finished
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: not that you can do the detection entirely from the outside without modifying (slightly) the page behaviour
<yorickpeterse> That's basically what I have now but using a counter
<yorickpeterse> which means I don't have to abuse the DOM
<yorickpeterse> testing this is a bit of a PITA because this particular chunk of HTML takes a few minutes to render
<yorickpeterse> (yay 180 page reports)
<yorickpeterse> huzzah, this seems to work
<workmad3> heh :)
<yorickpeterse> also, Vega is pretty cool
<yorickpeterse> (https://github.com/trifacta/vega this Vega)
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<doppler> if anyone got an idea, let me know. im practicing ruby by playing around with a calculator. i understand how to handle input and split the array and how to do case-when statements. ive been able to get the script to calculate stuff like 3 * 4. but now i want my calculator to also be able to calculate something like: 3 * 4 / 3. but i cant get my head around this one. https://gist.github.com/d0ppler/f7ab7df326aae21e4f21
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<jhass> doppler: do you know reverse polish notation?
<jhass> start with something that can take that
<canton7> RPN + shunting yard algorithm = win
<jhass> after that you can think about transforming other input ;)
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<yorickpeterse> doppler: if you want something a bit more crazy, have a peek at https://github.com/YorickPeterse/ruby-calculator
<yorickpeterse> doppler: it's probably way over your head though
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<doppler> yorickpeterse: i figured it out. :P and thanks for the link ill check it out. could be nice to get some inspiration
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<darix> yorickpeterse: saw the new cloudflare blog post?
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah, skimmed through it
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<sgharms> Hey people. Does ruby support #try on Object yet?
<sgharms> srry wrong window
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<jhass> I truly wonder what the right window would've been
<apeiros> that one to the left of #ruby-lang
<jhass> heh
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<lz1irq> Hi. I have a very stupid question with regular expressions that I can't figure out. I have a script that matches strings like "a:b" (gives me a and b), but when I try to make it parse "a->b" it doesn't work. The regexp is "/(?<name>\w+):(?<type>\w+)/". Why doesn't it work when I replace the : with -> ?
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<jhass> >> "a->b".match /(?<name>\w+)->(?<type>\w+)/
<eval-in> jhass => #<MatchData "a->b" name:"a" type:"b"> (https://eval.in/311034)
<jhass> seems to work
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<jhass> that said, you might just want to .split
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<lz1irq> Hm, this is weird. irb says it works, rubular says it works, but it doesn't work in the script.
<jhass> verify your assumptions inside your script then
<jhass> your problem description of "doesn't work" suggests you have a ton of them unverified
<jhass> verify things are what you think the are using p(thing) and the like
<lz1irq> The thing is, it works in the script when I use a ":" as a separator.
<lz1irq> But not with "->"
<jhass> answer stays
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<Bertg> @lz1irq Do you have an example of a failing string from your script?
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<jhass> they left
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<Bertg> oh, right... Man I'm new (again) to this IRC thing :)
<Bertg> havn't used in almost a decade
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<jhass> no worries, just informing so you don't waste your time ;)
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<godzillaenlacasa> is it possible to make a Class without an initialize method?
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<godzillaenlacasa> eh, nm...
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<centrx> yes?
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<godzillaenlacasa> my dumbass didn't need a class... I'm only doing function. durrr.
<godzillaenlacasa> ... or 'methods' in Ruby. (learning here)
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<ianseyer> hi all. can i get some information how to use 'pass' in ruby? i've tried to google in all sorts of ways, but pass happens to be a very common word in the vernacular...
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<ianseyer> as in, 'pass if condition blah'
<centrx> ianseyer, pass what? Do you mean 'next'?
<centrx> return ?
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<jhass> ianseyer: pass as in the python keyword?
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<ianseyer> jhass: http://pastie.org/10083372
<ianseyer> that is from stackoverflow
<ianseyer> [in the context of a sinatra question; but it is not a sinatra word'
<jhass> might be some authentication framework?
<jhass> it lacks a ton of context
<jhass> let's throw it into omniref anyway
<jhass> and it looks to be a sinatra method
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<jhass> "Pass control to the next matching route. If there are no more matching routes, Sinatra will return a 404 response."
<ianseyer> well i'll be damned
<ianseyer> never heard of omniref
<ianseyer> thank you sir
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<jhass> yw
<jhass> btw symbolhound.com if you ever need to search for ||=
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<ianseyer> jhass: haha, thanks
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<alessandro> Hi there, i have a small code: http://dpaste.com/3A7456M, and in shell when I call ruby name_file.rb name_file.txt, the result is: reading.rb:3:in `initialize': No such file or directory - reading_demo.txt (Errno::ENOENT)
<alessandro> from reading.rb:3:in `open'
<alessandro> from reading.rb:3:in `<main>'
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<alessandro> any ideas are..welcome, thanks guyz
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<jhass> "reading.demo.txt" does not exist in the current directory
<jhass> just read the error message like english
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<jhass> also always use the block form of open or helper methods such as File.read and File.write
<alessandro> i am stupid!
<alessandro> i haven't created reading_demo.txt before
<alessandro> thanks jhass
<jhass> yw
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