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<hakunin> womble: just time commitment, guess gonna have to try
<hakunin> darix: yeah
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<womble> darix: It's the newly standardised "Content" header. Saves you having to have a response body and all the confusion that results.
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<hakunin> womble: hm i didn't even know :) we're trying something trickier
<darix> womble: yes that \r\n\r\n was really confusing
<darix> womble: RFC url?
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<hakunin> ah
<darix> hakunin: what are you trying?
<womble> My sarcasm is obviously far too subtle
<hakunin> goddamnit
<hakunin> basically trying to receive a file together with a piece of text
<darix> womble: it is 2am here and I was just forced to fix bugs in passenger while i wanted to hack on discourse.
<hakunin> in a single roundtrip
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<darix> hakunin: there is a nice feature for that multipart mime
<darix> hakunin: and it still sounds broken
<hakunin> the thing is ruby is doing the requesting, and something else is responding, i'm not sure how to build a multipart response
<hakunin> darix: ^
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<hakunin> but sending data in header upon initiating the chunked response seems like it'd work
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<hakunin> (from that other place)
<darix> hakunin: your responder would need to create the multipart mime
<darix> hakunin: anyway
<darix> what's so bad about 2 requests?
<hakunin> darix: more chances of things breaking in new ways
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<hakunin> this part of a background job in a web service
<hakunin> *this is
<hakunin> having a single request-response for this operation seems cleaner to reason about
<darix> not really
<darix> but what ever floats your boat
<darix> e.g.
<darix> if your background service downloads a file
<darix> save it to a tempfile
<darix> pass the filename + message as hash back to the app
<darix> and you can fetch the filename from the hash
<darix> and use X-sendfile to send out the file
<darix> instead of reading the file into ruby to send it out again
<darix> which is silly
<hakunin> darix: that's what makes this difficult, we need to preserve the streaming
<darix> nginx,lighttpd,apache all support this more useful
<hakunin> darix: the responder generates a file from scratch
<hakunin> darix: file never existed, it's a png file, and it streams it to ruby as it's being built
<darix> so?
<hakunin> darix: we don't want to buffer it into any tempfile, on either side
<darix> how big is your average png?
<hakunin> darix: dimensions are on-demand, and can reach tens of thousands on width/height
<darix> hm
<darix> and your message contains what?
<hakunin> darix: vector data of the image that may have been modified by the responder together with producing the png
<darix> i would still split it up in 2 requests
<darix> sorry
<darix> that feels like huge abuse
<darix> that's the clean way
<darix> but that would require some encoding
<hakunin> yeah it's a bit hairy
<hakunin> i'm not too opposed to 2 requests
<hakunin> just a gut aversion to being less transactional
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<darix> with http/2 it would be a bit easier
<darix> there you could push extra responses ;)
<hakunin> yeah i heard
<darix> there is also that content disposition stuff
<darix> but i am too tired atm
<hakunin> i evaluated a few ways, and honestly, if header can just hold the data, it seems fine for the time being
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<darix> hmm
<darix> you would need to use a X-header
<darix> not sure if your js stuff is allowed to read arbitrary x-headers
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<hakunin> darix: not gonna be any js stuff involved, all comm is between ruby and node.js
<hakunin> (err, no browser-side js)
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<hakunin> fyi womble, darix - just tested with about 1.5mb of data - works
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<Leigh> Should I converge onto ruby from python?
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<centrx> My sources say Yes
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<fp-> hey all
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<fp-> ever since Rails 4.2 and Ruby 2.0, my views are taking an extra ~500ms to render
<fp-> is there a way I can somehow figure out what's taking so long?
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<fp-> Completed 200 OK in 659ms (Views: 643.8ms | ActiveRecord: 3.3ms)
<fp-> that used to be like ~70ms
<fp-> my partials all render under 10ms
<fp-> so i'm not sure where to look
<centrx> fp-, put require 'profile' at the top of the code
<centrx> not sure how that works with a web request
<fp-> and I just realized im in ruby-lang instead of rubyonrails
<fp-> lol sorry guys
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<itstooloud> can I ask a GIT question in here?
<centrx> you can try
<itstooloud> i have a number of repositories that were committed one at a time as i was working on them, and now i realize i should have put them all inside a couple large folders (separate parts of a larger project). What happens if i make a new git repository with, say 20 or so nested sub-project directories, each of which is already its own repository?
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<centrx> itstooloud, search Google for [git merge repository]
<centrx> itstooloud, first result on SO is about using subtree, second one seems to be a variation on it that doesn't use subtree
<centrx> itstooloud, Also you could just copy the files yes
<centrx> itstooloud, and abandon the history
<itstooloud> what do you mean just copy the files? move them into a different directory? For the most part, they're already inside the folder that I want to be the main repository
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<centrx> if you create a new repository and simply copy files from other repos into it, those copied files no longer have their commit history from the other repos
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<centrx> Unless they are merged in a way with git
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<centrx> but just copying all the files into a new repo will work
<centrx> don't copy the .git folders, just copy visible files
<centrx> rather ignore the .git folders, I don't know if that's necessary though
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<itstooloud> thanks. i really wish github had some way to organize with folders.
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<ljarvis> moin
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<cpach> how can i convert an array of fixnums into a string containing their hex representation?
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<cpach> e.g. convert [102, 111, 111] to '666f6f'?
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<yorickpeterse> You use to_s(16) for that
<yorickpeterse> e.g.
<yorickpeterse> >> [102, 111, 111].map { |num| num.to_s(16) }.inject(:+)
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "666f6f" (https://eval.in/313806)
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<jhass> .inject(+) oO
<yorickpeterse> to_s(16) converts it to a hex string
<jhass> .join
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<yorickpeterse> jhass: whatevah
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<yorickpeterse> actually that's not correct
<yorickpeterse> .join('')
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<yorickpeterse> If somebody changes the default join var (whatever that one was), it would break
<jhass> >> %w(actually it is).join
<eval-in> jhass => "actuallyitis" (https://eval.in/313807)
<yorickpeterse> Yes, it defaults to a space
<yorickpeterse> errr
<yorickpeterse> empty string
<yorickpeterse> But it's based on a global variable that you can change
<jhass> if somebody did that, they'd break a shit ton of code already
<jhass> bahaha, pry fails on $,
<jhass> have to use parens
<cpach> yorickpeterse, jhass: thank you!
<yorickpeterse> Ah yes, $, was the var
<yorickpeterse> >> $, = 'lololol'; [10, 20].join
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "10lololol20" (https://eval.in/313808)
<yorickpeterse> Although .join('') is 2 bytes shorter
<yorickpeterse> so there's that
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<jhass> 29 cases of .join at the end of a line in Rails alone
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<yorickpeterse> Granted, if somebody changes $, they probably deserve what's coming
<jhass> yeah
<jhass> I guess it's actually a nice one for the "I hate you and I leave"-toolbox
<jhass> change it to "\b" or something
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<yorickpeterse> "\0" is more evil
<yorickpeterse> if that gets passed to some C ext that uses StringValueCStr() it will barf
<yorickpeterse> or maybe something like this:
<yorickpeterse> >> [10, 20, 30].join([160].pack('U*'))
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "10 20 30" (https://eval.in/313816)
<jhass> "\u200B" should be nice too
<yorickpeterse> I think there was some invisible unicode char too
<yorickpeterse> Yeah that's the one
<jhass> ^ ;) zero width space
<jhass> there's a ton of them
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<jhass> "\u0200F" is probably my favorite
<jhass> suddenly your stuff is RTL
<jhass> er, strip that leading 0 of course
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<fteem> Hi everyone. I am playing around with File .birthtime/#birthtime and I noticed that although it's working on OSX, it raises a NotImplementedError on Linux. Can anyone tell me what's going on, why this is happening? I found some discussions going on bugs.ruby-lang.org but it's all in japanese and the translation is hard to understand. Thanks in advance!
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<heftig> fteem: linux has no API for it
<heftig> fteem: some filesystems do record file birthtime, but it has never been exposed
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<fteem> heftig: I understand. Is there an alternative approach to this or right now it's impossible to access the birthtime on Linux ?
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<fteem> heftig: nevermind. I googled around for it. Thanks for answering!
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<ruby-lang724> hi guis
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<imperator> hello
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<zenspider_> imperator: been a while
<imperator> yeah, a bit
<imperator> what did i miss?
<zenspider_> heh. not much. how've you been?
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<imperator> doing alright, getting my 2nd game published :)
<imperator> you?
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<zenspider_> imperator: nice!
<zenspider_> I'm good. should be working on my talk, but not doing the best job of it right now :)
<weaksauce> zenspider_ what's it on?
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<zenspider> weaksauce: "ruby on rails on minitest" for railsconf next week
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<weaksauce> ah nice. I started using minitest because it's less magic
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<yorickpeterse> zenspider: you missed an opportunity to call it "minitest on rails"
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<imperator> "ruby on rails on minitest on rails on ruby" for full symmetry
<yorickpeterse> ActiveMiniTest
<blowmage> noooooooo
<imperator> well, good luck with the talk zenspider
* imperator tries to remember last railsconf he went to....think it was 2007
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<imperator> oh, atlanta this year
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<zenspider> I still want to write hyperactiverecord
<zenspider> imperator: what's the new game?
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<yorickpeterse> imperator: I assume you're using Node.js and Go for this?
<imperator> haha
<zenspider> I thought you already had that published?
<imperator> nope, kickstarter was finished last month, will actually get shipped in november
<imperator> i have one other game i published back in 2009
<imperator> been working on this one for...a while
<zenspider> it's been listed there for a long while, right?
<imperator> yeah
<zenspider> I think I looked at that page years and years ago
<imperator> well, 3 years at most ;)
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<headius> drbrain: rdoc-data doesn't support 2.2 yet?
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