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womble: just time commitment, guess gonna have to try
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darix: yeah
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darix: It's the newly standardised "Content" header. Saves you having to have a response body and all the confusion that results.
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womble: hm i didn't even know :) we're trying something trickier
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darix >
womble: yes that \r\n\r\n was really confusing
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womble: RFC url?
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* womble
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darix >
hakunin: what are you trying?
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womble >
My sarcasm is obviously far too subtle
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hakunin >
goddamnit
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hakunin >
basically trying to receive a file together with a piece of text
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womble: it is 2am here and I was just forced to fix bugs in passenger while i wanted to hack on discourse.
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in a single roundtrip
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hakunin: there is a nice feature for that multipart mime
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hakunin: and it still sounds broken
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the thing is ruby is doing the requesting, and something else is responding, i'm not sure how to build a multipart response
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but sending data in header upon initiating the chunked response seems like it'd work
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(from that other place)
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hakunin: your responder would need to create the multipart mime
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hakunin: anyway
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what's so bad about 2 requests?
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darix: more chances of things breaking in new ways
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this part of a background job in a web service
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having a single request-response for this operation seems cleaner to reason about
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but what ever floats your boat
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if your background service downloads a file
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save it to a tempfile
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darix >
pass the filename + message as hash back to the app
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and you can fetch the filename from the hash
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and use X-sendfile to send out the file
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instead of reading the file into ruby to send it out again
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which is silly
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darix: that's what makes this difficult, we need to preserve the streaming
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nginx,lighttpd,apache all support this more useful
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darix: the responder generates a file from scratch
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darix: file never existed, it's a png file, and it streams it to ruby as it's being built
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darix: we don't want to buffer it into any tempfile, on either side
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darix >
how big is your average png?
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darix: dimensions are on-demand, and can reach tens of thousands on width/height
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and your message contains what?
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darix: vector data of the image that may have been modified by the responder together with producing the png
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i would still split it up in 2 requests
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that feels like huge abuse
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that's the clean way
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but that would require some encoding
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yeah it's a bit hairy
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i'm not too opposed to 2 requests
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just a gut aversion to being less transactional
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with http/2 it would be a bit easier
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there you could push extra responses ;)
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yeah i heard
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there is also that content disposition stuff
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but i am too tired atm
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i evaluated a few ways, and honestly, if header can just hold the data, it seems fine for the time being
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you would need to use a X-header
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not sure if your js stuff is allowed to read arbitrary x-headers
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darix: not gonna be any js stuff involved, all comm is between ruby and node.js
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(err, no browser-side js)
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fyi womble, darix - just tested with about 1.5mb of data - works
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Leigh >
Should I converge onto ruby from python?
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centrx >
My sources say Yes
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fp- >
ever since Rails 4.2 and Ruby 2.0, my views are taking an extra ~500ms to render
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fp- >
is there a way I can somehow figure out what's taking so long?
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fp- >
Completed 200 OK in 659ms (Views: 643.8ms | ActiveRecord: 3.3ms)
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fp- >
that used to be like ~70ms
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fp- >
my partials all render under 10ms
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fp- >
so i'm not sure where to look
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centrx >
fp-, put require 'profile' at the top of the code
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centrx >
not sure how that works with a web request
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fp- >
and I just realized im in ruby-lang instead of rubyonrails
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fp- >
lol sorry guys
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itstooloud >
can I ask a GIT question in here?
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centrx >
you can try
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itstooloud >
i have a number of repositories that were committed one at a time as i was working on them, and now i realize i should have put them all inside a couple large folders (separate parts of a larger project). What happens if i make a new git repository with, say 20 or so nested sub-project directories, each of which is already its own repository?
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centrx >
itstooloud, search Google for [git merge repository]
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centrx >
itstooloud, first result on SO is about using subtree, second one seems to be a variation on it that doesn't use subtree
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centrx >
itstooloud, Also you could just copy the files yes
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centrx >
itstooloud, and abandon the history
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itstooloud >
what do you mean just copy the files? move them into a different directory? For the most part, they're already inside the folder that I want to be the main repository
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centrx >
if you create a new repository and simply copy files from other repos into it, those copied files no longer have their commit history from the other repos
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centrx >
Unless they are merged in a way with git
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centrx >
but just copying all the files into a new repo will work
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centrx >
don't copy the .git folders, just copy visible files
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centrx >
rather ignore the .git folders, I don't know if that's necessary though
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thanks. i really wish github had some way to organize with folders.
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cpach >
how can i convert an array of fixnums into a string containing their hex representation?
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cpach >
e.g. convert [102, 111, 111] to '666f6f'?
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You use to_s(16) for that
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yorickpeterse >
e.g.
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>> [102, 111, 111].map { |num| num.to_s(16) }.inject(:+)
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jhass >
.inject(+) oO
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yorickpeterse >
to_s(16) converts it to a hex string
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yorickpeterse >
jhass: whatevah
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yorickpeterse >
actually that's not correct
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yorickpeterse >
.join('')
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yorickpeterse >
If somebody changes the default join var (whatever that one was), it would break
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jhass >
>> %w(actually it is).join
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yorickpeterse >
Yes, it defaults to a space
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yorickpeterse >
errr
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yorickpeterse >
empty string
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yorickpeterse >
But it's based on a global variable that you can change
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jhass >
if somebody did that, they'd break a shit ton of code already
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jhass >
bahaha, pry fails on $,
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jhass >
have to use parens
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cpach >
yorickpeterse, jhass: thank you!
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yorickpeterse >
Ah yes, $, was the var
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yorickpeterse >
>> $, = 'lololol'; [10, 20].join
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yorickpeterse >
Although .join('') is 2 bytes shorter
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yorickpeterse >
so there's that
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jhass >
29 cases of .join at the end of a line in Rails alone
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yorickpeterse >
Granted, if somebody changes $, they probably deserve what's coming
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jhass >
I guess it's actually a nice one for the "I hate you and I leave"-toolbox
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jhass >
change it to "\b" or something
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yorickpeterse >
"\0" is more evil
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yorickpeterse >
if that gets passed to some C ext that uses StringValueCStr() it will barf
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yorickpeterse >
or maybe something like this:
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>> [10, 20, 30].join([160].pack('U*'))
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jhass >
"\u200B" should be nice too
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yorickpeterse >
I think there was some invisible unicode char too
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yorickpeterse >
Yeah that's the one
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jhass >
^ ;) zero width space
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jhass >
there's a ton of them
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"\u0200F" is probably my favorite
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jhass >
suddenly your stuff is RTL
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jhass >
er, strip that leading 0 of course
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fteem >
Hi everyone. I am playing around with File .birthtime/#birthtime and I noticed that although it's working on OSX, it raises a NotImplementedError on Linux. Can anyone tell me what's going on, why this is happening? I found some discussions going on bugs.ruby-lang.org but it's all in japanese and the translation is hard to understand. Thanks in advance!
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fteem: linux has no API for it
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heftig >
fteem: some filesystems do record file birthtime, but it has never been exposed
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fteem >
heftig: I understand. Is there an alternative approach to this or right now it's impossible to access the birthtime on Linux ?
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fteem >
heftig: nevermind. I googled around for it. Thanks for answering!
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ruby-lang724 >
hi guis
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imperator: been a while
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imperator >
yeah, a bit
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imperator >
what did i miss?
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zenspider_ >
heh. not much. how've you been?
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doing alright, getting my 2nd game published :)
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imperator: nice!
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zenspider_ >
I'm good. should be working on my talk, but not doing the best job of it right now :)
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weaksauce >
zenspider_ what's it on?
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weaksauce: "ruby on rails on minitest" for railsconf next week
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ah nice. I started using minitest because it's less magic
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yorickpeterse >
zenspider: you missed an opportunity to call it "minitest on rails"
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imperator >
"ruby on rails on minitest on rails on ruby" for full symmetry
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yorickpeterse >
ActiveMiniTest
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blowmage >
noooooooo
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imperator >
well, good luck with the talk zenspider
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* imperator
tries to remember last railsconf he went to....think it was 2007
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imperator >
oh, atlanta this year
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zenspider >
I still want to write hyperactiverecord
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imperator: what's the new game?
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yorickpeterse >
imperator: I assume you're using Node.js and Go for this?
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zenspider >
I thought you already had that published?
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imperator >
nope, kickstarter was finished last month, will actually get shipped in november
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imperator >
i have one other game i published back in 2009
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imperator >
been working on this one for...a while
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zenspider >
it's been listed there for a long while, right?
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I think I looked at that page years and years ago
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well, 3 years at most ;)
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drbrain: rdoc-data doesn't support 2.2 yet?
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