apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.2; 2.1.6; 2.0.0-p645: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on https://gist.github.com
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<happyp> Anyone know of some good tutorials for Ruby?
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<nvg> happyp: what experience level do you have with programming in general?
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<help_me_> hey can someone help me? I'll link the code
<help_me_> getting a namerror saying undefined method/variable
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<help_me_> does anyone have time to help me? I been stuck on this forever
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<harly> heya. if i have an array of hashesh, and I want to assign a new key/value to the last, how can I? hash_array.last[:key] = value for ex?
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<ledestin> harly that should work. why do you ask? just try in pry.
<ledestin> help_me_ just ask
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<help_me_> ok
<harly> ledestin: i'd tried in irb but it didn't work. but i did a - value instead of = value. so the error i'm getting up-stream is something else. (i'd commented out that line and it passed the error. so assumed it was the way i was assigning.)
<help_me_> on line 11 it said undefined local variable or method "post_params" and on line 45 is where I defined post_params https://github.com/Eibonic/Website./blob/master/app/controllers/posts_controller.rb
<help_me_> this is the commit that broke it https://github.com/Eibonic/Website./commit/3ca7c267fd072df0977ad640ceef28a26eb57963 when I started adding a votes table
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<help_me_> I never altered the post_params
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<ledestin> harly too hard to understand w/o code
<harly> nah i't sfine, I'd convinced myself it was that line. but that lnie is fine. so it's just another bug. i'l find it. thanks. :)
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<help_me_> I took harly's advice and I removed the def function and set the line @post = current_user.posts.new(params.require(:post).permit(:title, :content))
<help_me_> instead of user.posts.new(post_params)
<help_me_> I would like to know why my code didn't work
<harly> i'm curious why post_params doesn't call the def post_params though. i don't nkow rails much.
<pipework> #rubyonrails
<harly> mmm.
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<help_me_> ok wow, a lot of things broke
<help_me_> that commit I linked broke a LOT of things
<help_me_> the code isn't reading my actions, it's like they don't exist
<pipework> help_me_: /join #RubyOnRails
<help_me_> I clicked my new upvote function and it says "Unknown action" "The action 'upvote' could not be found for PostsController"
<harly> best bet is to create a paste of the full error output. but post it in #rubyonrails, since you're working in rails.
<help_me_> ok
<ledestin> help_me_ don't put too much into one commit
<help_me_> oh, I saw on github that other people hardly use as many commits as me
<help_me_> so I started copying them.
<ledestin> pipework that channel is a piece of shit
<pipework> ledestin: Disagree.
<harly> i've found it very helpful...
<harly> help_me_ but they probably test locally more often. make a small change. run it locall to see if it works.
<harly> when you have enough changes for a checkpoint, commit.
<ledestin> help_me_ do you know about single responsibility principle?
<help_me_> ok
<help_me_> no
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<pipework> ledestin: that's a bit much to be tossing his way.
<ledestin> help_me_ well, read about it. and I treat my commits that way, and I suggest you do too.
<ledestin> pipework he has to learn one day, and why not today
<pipework> Except people don't call describe their commits as SRP. They call them atomic.
<pipework> Small atomic commits.
<pipework> s/call //
<ledestin> well, I do
<pipework> That's nice.
<harly> i used to do very atomic commits. got told off by too many co wokers. :)
<ledestin> atomic's good too
<harly> i still do, but i flatten before merge.
<pipework> harly: I usually just show them that I have much more experience with all parts of git than they do and rarely am I ever shown up.
<pipework> But when I am, I dig it.
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<pipework> help_me_: Anyways, collect your question and code and drop them into #RubyOnRails.
<harly> yeah, but these are people who know a lot more than me. so i submit to their will :)
<help_me_> well I'm being stubborn right now, instead of going back to a previous commit, I'm just trying to figure out what's up
<help_me_> every fix I'm adding is breaking more things now
<ledestin> help_me_ scrap it and go in small steps
<pipework> Might not quantify as a 'fix' then, eh? :D
<help_me_> also, any way I can stop rake db:migrate from reverting my changes in the schema.rb?
<help_me_> I've been using rake db:schema:load and Idk the difference really
<help_me_> I just know it's stopping schema from being changed, and idk if this is bad practice
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<help_me_> also I deleted my models table from schema, is that bad?
<help_me_> I'll try ruby_on_rails irc
<harly> ledestin: heh. my hash_array.last[:key] = value was the last line in an inject. i forgot to put hash_array which was the inject param. so it was ending up as just value, causing an upstream clash.
<pipework> harly: #each_with_object is pretty awesome.
<harly> i'll check it out.
<ledestin> help_me_ you don't edit schema.rb, do you?
<harly> in this case i'm cloning a hash, because the modifications cant' go into the original which is a lookup table.
<harly> so i'm not sure each_with_object works for me.
<pipework> I'd have to see more of your code.
<help_me_> I do edit it
<help_me_> I use it to add tables
<ledestin> help_me_ read the migration docs, you're not supposed to
<help_me_> oh
<help_me_> my bad, I never read those comments
<harly> ledestin: it's ok, it's working now. 6 runs, 33 assertions, 0 failures, 0 errors, 0 skips
<harly> . i'm regretting storing all the lockup data in a hash though instead of creating an object for it. so many maps, injects, each_pair, etc etc. very messy lookinig.
<harly> s/lockup/lookups/
<ledestin> harly yep, such interfaces suck
<harly> :w
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<harly> oops.
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<pipework> Yeah, primitive obsession is a common thing.
<harly> yep. i've come from perl world. so feels natural. but yeah, being basic in ruby means only knowing primitives, so every problem looks like an array/hash. :)
<help_me_> omg, I'm so dumb. I just realized this whole time I been making this app from scratch and haven't been using any of the generators
<help_me_> that's why I'm getting all these problems
<help_me_> because I wouldn't know what I"m missing
<ledestin> jeez, long ago I had Perl billing written by the prev guy who used that. It was hard, but I didn't know it wasn't my fault.
<pipework> harly: Every problem is an array problem until it's a bit problem. :D
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<harly> heh. it's probably a similar thing. at some point you go and create objects to hide away all the junk. but a bit of massaging turns into a bit more, and beore you know it there's a screen full of maps sorts joins etc. :)
<ledestin> harly and then you refactor
<harly> yep.
<harly> this little loop i'm working on is actually taking all the modified cloned data and creating the objects for use elsewhere.
<harly> but i really should have stored the lookup stuff as those object first. and put this nonsense inside class methods.
<ledestin> Law of Demeter also
<harly> good point.
<help_me_> I refuse to go back D:
<ledestin> help_me_ not helping you with that
<help_me_> is there anyway to delete a model ?
<help_me_> Like I mean, a shortcut, delete all files related
<ledestin> help_me_ git rm?
<help_me_> oh nvm found it, man maybe I shouldn't be coding right now. I'm full retard
<help_me_> at this rate, my pc will explode
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<help_me_> ok guys
<help_me_> how do I go back to an old commit, I forgot
<help_me_> I learned the error of my ways
<harly> there are many ways :)
<help_me_> ok thanks harly
<harly> you can do git checkout HEAD~! to check out the previous commit.
<harly> but that leaves the new commit.
<harly> head~1 sorry. not !
<help_me_> ok
<harly> you can do git reset --soft HEAD~1 to undo the last commit, but leave the changes staged for recommitting.
<pipework> help_me_: #git for all your git needs.
<help_me_> I realized that this is a complete mess trying to work on this new commit
<help_me_> I completely broke this thing beyond repair
<pipework> HEAD^ also works.
<ledestin> help_me_ google for "git remove commit"
<help_me_> didn't work damnit
<pipework> didn't work doesn't help anyone help you
<help_me_> it's ok I found a guide
<help_me_> How does one know if they're a good programmer? I mean I'm obviously making some retarded mistakes. But is the only thing that matters the result?
<help_me_> or does making all these mistakes make me bad
<harly> when someone looks at your code as says wow, that's like art. that's a good sign.
<harly> if you get to "the result", call that a beginner. :)
<jhass> you might want to think about a better nick btw, it's a bit demanding
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<ledestin> help_me_ pair program with people and you will get to know how your level is related to others
<pipework> help_me_: The less you use the word 'retarded' as a pejorative, the better.
<pipework> ledestin: Selection bias much?
<ledestin> pipework yep :(
<ledestin> help_me_ read some Rails code and compare to yours. Rails is good code.
<pipework> sometimes
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<benhuda> hello all
<benhuda> which is the better API out of these 2 suggestions? http://pastie.org/10114368
<jhass> the second seems more reasonable as you could assign each classifier to a constant and reuse them, instead of duplicating the logic somewhere
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<benhuda> jhass: thanks. isn't it weird initializing a block in a constructor like this?
<jhass> I wouldn't say so, you can find several examples in Ruby core that does it
<benhuda> i actually started with API 2 - but then changed it to API 1 because I wasn't confident. so I looked at the standard library for inspiration and found Set#classify
<jhass> that'd be hitres.classify though
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<jhass> Hash.new, Enumerator.new, Thread.new, Array.new, all these take a block
<benhuda> jhass because you're saying if i'm already getting a "results" variable, why wrap it -- make it implement #classifiy ?
<jhass> no, I'm saying if you were to orient yourself on Set#classify, the API would call it on the data and not a service object processing it
<jhass> I don't mean that I recommend the former over the later, on contrary
<benhuda> i understand
<benhuda> there is also a third option - making FormClassifier an 'abstract' class, and inheriting from it -- implementing "#classify_values" which is exactly the functionality of the block that was given in the ctor in API 2
<jhass> well, that's what you'd do in a language without block, aka template method pattern I guess
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<jhass> in Ruby we do have block, so HasSpentSomething = FormClassifier.new { ... } can be viewed as an idiomatic implementation of it
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<help_me_> ok I went back and did things all over again
<help_me_> now it just says undefined method "votes" and idk how to fix this
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<jhass> you define votes, change the way how you call votes to a context where it's defined or change the call to something that exists
<help_me_> yea, wait trying to push it to github. idk how, it's when I moved back to a previous commit and now it says "HEAD detached from ___"
<help_me_> what happened was I used git checkout HEAD~1 to go back a commit, and now Idk how to push these changes
<benhuda> jhass: thanks
<jhass> checkout just affects the worktree, not the branch pointer
<jhass> did you commit?
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<help_me_> it won't work still
<help_me_> I'm getting so angry with this
<jhass> help_me_: do you want help?
<help_me_> holy fuck the errors I run into
<help_me_> well I think I fucked up now
<jhass> okay, I take that as a no
<help_me_> I've been trying to follow online guides
<help_me_> and I always break something when doing it
<help_me_> now when I push it says "everything up to date"
<benhuda> jhass do you have a book or a resource i can read that can help me make such better decisions regarding shaping APIs ? i think avdi has good books in this area - no?
<jhass> benhuda: maybe, I don't read many books
<jhass> benhuda: at the end of the day it's a about experience, while you're not confident allot time to have the possibility to still change it if it doesn't work out
<jhass> but you need to try stuff out, especially your own ideas, to build up experience
<benhuda> jhass: yes, i think in this case both API suggestions are very close, and there is no immediate benefit yet since the use case is simple. i have to imagine the stuff i would need from the Classifier in order to make a better decision.
<jhass> trying to retrofit premade solutions as you can find them in books or online won't magically make your code better, probably even worse
<benhuda> for example - if I have to #classify_by_form and #classify_by_count then the API 1 version would be best.
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<benhuda> meaning - if i would need to look at the result from various angles and classify them in various ways all in the same place
<jhass> also if you use the same classification logic in many places
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<benhuda> that's true. if i need to pass the classifier with its data to many places.
<help_me_> How can I force git to push ALL my files, even the ones it thinks I haven't changed? I accidentally had removed files in a push
<womble> help_me_: That's not how git push works. You can't remove files from a push.
<help_me_> I mean I removed files in a commit
<benhuda> jhass: i guess the best "future-proof" way is to do it through API 1. the YAGNI way is to do it through API 2
<help_me_> that's the guide I was looking at that broke things
<help_me_> and idk how to recover my files now
<jhass> and we don't have magical access to your computer to inspect things, so we can't know either
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<help_me_> I detached myself from head, and when I tried to push it mentioned unmerged files. and all I wanted was my files to overrite the head files. I used git rm to remove all the files it was saying was unmerged
<help_me_> then I used push, and what actually happened was I told git to delete my own files
<help_me_> I deleted a bunch of folders then pushed that change
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<help_me_> and now I just reverted to an old repository, and it won't let me push those files that were deleted
<help_me_> because "nothing was changed"
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<help_me_> did I explain my issue well enough
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<jhass> no, I can easily come up with 10+ variants as to what you did
<jhass> do you still have the complete terminal scrollback? that'd could help a bit
<harly> people can't help if you aren't pasting the output of your commands, and the subsequent errors.
<help_me_> Idk how the hell I'd paste that
<help_me_> there's no error to be had
<help_me_> git thinks I did all this on purpose
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<jhass> paste it anyway
<jhass> from the git checkout HEAD~1 onwards
<jhass> everything you did with all of its output
<harly> also you'd probably get better help in #git. but you can try your luck here.
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<pipework> #ruby-lang: Where you go when you don't feel like googling.
<help_me_> Googling led me to here
<help_me_> it led it to being broken
<harly> first time git can be pretty brain bending.
<help_me_> It's because I followed that guide
<help_me_> that it broke
<pipework> Personally, I just go to the nearest 7-11. But they don't understand my questions.
<harly> especially when you get messed up in detached heads, merges, and misplaced rms. :)
<harly> haha
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<pipework> help_me_: Sounds like you should take more responsibility for your choices.
<help_me_> it didn't warn me about that
<help_me_> HEAD detached at 3ca7c26 Changes to be committed: (use "git reset HEAD <file>..." to unstage) modified: app/views/posts/index.html.erb
<harly> you know, there's a not terrible chance that they would!
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<pipework> help_me_: And you should consider leveling up your 'question asking skills'.
<help_me_> don't insult me
<pipework> No one is.
<help_me_> you are
<help_me_> Insults aren't based off someones intentions but the persons reaction
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<pipework> Well, I can't help anyone who only takes criticism personally. Good luck!
<help_me_> There's different methods to "criticizing" someone
<help_me_> and you know this, don't pretend
<jhass> the people you want help from make the rules, if you can't play by these rules, get help elsewhere
<help_me_> No, there's people who are helpful then there's the random guy who joins in to throw insults
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<help_me_> I just don't know how to overwrite a head instead of "merging" it
<harly> https://www.biostars.org/p/75548/ <-- how to ask a technical question.
<jhass> well, you've been told what to provide to get help, there's no point in further talking until you do
<help_me_> there's no error to provide
<help_me_> and I provided the output
<harly> don't need to go all out. but some basics are what you've done, what the input/ouput is, context, etc. make it as easy as possible for someone who's probably busy doing somethign else to have a quick look and gather what you're trying to do, what you've done, what the errors are, and if you're lucky, they can easily see what you've done wrong and help.
<harly> if it's not clear, then they just give up and go back to whatever else they were doing.
<help_me_> I was doing that at first, then I was retaliating to his insults
<pipework> harly: You're something of a saint. Do you perhaps believe that your favorite saint is saint jude?
<harly> hehe
<harly> s/retaliating to his insults/not listening to feedback and adjusting the question so it is more likely to get help/ :)
<help_me_> Once again, I'm attacked
<pipework> harly: Hey, don't insult his intelligence with cogent corrections that aren't meant to be upsetting.
<help_me_> I was listening to feedback, scrollup
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<apeiros> help_me_: if you feel somebody is not helping you, there are two things you can do: a) if they said something with regards to you getting help, consider that, or b) ignore the person
<help_me_> I was sourced stuff I already looked at
<pipework> ^
<jhass> harly: me 10 minutes ago "paste everything you did including its full output from git checkout HEAD~1 onwards". Nobody will be able to help you until you do exactly that
<help_me_> you guys were telling me to look at something that caused the problem
<jhass> help_me_: ^ sorry harly tab fail
<apeiros> help_me_: but option c) which is going into an argument, often leads to your removal from the channel
<help_me_> You're telling me to ignore an argument but none of you are doing that
<help_me_> when I tried talking about the problem again
<apeiros> help_me_: /ignore helps
<harly> help_me_: what jhass wrote is the absolute bare minimum you need to do to get help on yoru git troubles.
<pipework> /ignore is probably the best thing for people who can't let things go or filter on their own.
<apeiros> pick those you think are helpful and work with them
<apeiros> pipework: IME a majority
<help_me_> well /ignore is not working
<pipework> apeiros: I don't know IME, what do you mean?
<apeiros> help_me_: then get a proper irc client
<apeiros> pipework: in my experience
<pipework> apeiros: Oh quite!
<pipework> harly: You seem a nice chum, I hope you stick around.
<apeiros> and if I wasn't op, I'd /ignore quite some people :D
<harly> only when i'm not dealing with production issues.
<help_me_> I'm using the website
<help_me_> I type /ignore "name"
<apeiros> help_me_: get an irc client then. there's plenty.
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<apeiros> help_me_: which client depends on your operating system
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<apeiros> the webclient really doesn't have ignore. what a shame.
<pipework> Yeah, quite.
<pipework> You'd need like, javascript skills, or something.
<apeiros> I assume most of the logic is serverside
<jhass> apeiros: wanna bet whether we see a new kiwiirc client in a second? :P
<apeiros> :)
<pipework> apeiros: But the client can be modified to remove lines pretty nicely.
<apeiros> I actually doubt it's him
<apeiros> he's quite too collected for that IMO
<jhass> yeah, probably not
<jhass> but that attitude...
<apeiros> but maybe our friend is aggressive when on drugs…
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<apeiros> so no idea really. but I don't care much either. it doesn't help if you see ghosts everywhere (and that's no pun @ you pipework ;-) )
<pipework> apeiros: ho ho!
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<banister> yorickpeterse any idea where can i guy dutch films with english subs? i want to get aanmodderfakker, but i can't find it anywhere
<banister> get*
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<gemini_cricket> first time on irc and I have absolutely no clue how this works
<jhass> gemini_cricket: you seem to use it successfully so far
<jhass> if you got a question, just ask it
<gemini_cricket> No questions in mind as of now, following Rails tutorials and I have been told that the IRC channels are great to see what more experienced devs say and try to follow along
<jhass> for rails stuff you want to join #RubyOnRails
<jhass> and there's #ruby which has a higher activity than this place ;)
<gemini_cricket> checking all those channels as well, thanks bud
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<banister> anyone here have an mba and has two external monitors hooked up to it?
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<harly> baniser: didn't nkow that was possible. i wonder if my old (2013?) one can do it.
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<ruby-lang349> hey, can anyone help me?
<jhass> no, there's no question to answer
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<ruby-lang349> Is there is someboyd who started learning Ruby from Petter Cooper's book?
<ruby-lang349> Whatcan you advice me to read in order to learn Ruby more, on a deeper level?
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<toertore> ruby-lang349: http://ruby-doc.com/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ is a classic
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<ljarvis> ugh the pickaxe
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<nofxx> pickaxe is 1.8.6, no ?
<nofxx> anyone using cedet in emacs? wondering what semanticsdb can do for ruby
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<nofxx> code browsing would be nice, and something like find where this method/class is defined
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<centrx> nofxx, the free online pickaxe is actually 1.6, the book is up to 2.0
<nofxx> centrx, I see, thanks
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<yorickpeterse> banister: re films, no idea, the combination of Dutch with English subs is rare
<yorickpeterse> banister: I doubt you can get it at any movie rental places tbh
<banister> yorickpeterse too bad, i'm looking for the film aanmodder fakker, have u seen it?
<yorickpeterse> never heard of it
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<banister> yorickpeterse it's awesome, i recommend it (saw it with english subs on the flight over from NYC to NL)
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<banister> yorickpeterse lol "TIL in The Netherlands, people swear with diseases. Get someone angry enough and they may wish syphilis on you. (Or cancer, tuberculosis, smallpox, etc.) The more serious the disease, the more seriously you have angered them."
<banister> yorickpeterse merry kings day for tomorrow btw
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<waxjar> banister: Bol.com has the DVD, with english subs
<banister> waxjar how really?
<banister> waxjar that's awesome!
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<banister> waxjar got it, thanks. Have you seen the film?
<waxjar> nope, but i remember we talked about it a while ago
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<dagda1_> how can I get a Time class into this format "2014-09-19T15:40:24Z"
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<havenwood> >> Time.now.strftime '%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ'
<eval-in> havenwood => "2015-04-26T20:45:13Z" (https://eval.in/319052)
<apeiros> >> Time.now.utc.strftime("%FT%T%z")
<eval-in> apeiros => "2015-04-26T20:45:17+0000" (https://eval.in/319053)
<apeiros> >> Time.now.utc.strftime("%FT%T%Z")
<eval-in> apeiros => "2015-04-26T20:45:22UTC" (https://eval.in/319054)
<apeiros> meh
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<apeiros> >> Time.now.utc.strftime("%FT%TZ")
<eval-in> apeiros => "2015-04-26T20:45:36Z" (https://eval.in/319055)
<apeiros> so be it. literal Z it is.
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<yxhuvud> >> require 'time'; Time.now.utc.iso8601
<eval-in> yxhuvud => "2015-04-26T20:49:51Z" (https://eval.in/319056)
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<apeiros> winner
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