#ruby-lang on 2015-04-28 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-04-13 16:51 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.2; 2.1.6; 2.0.0-p645: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on https://gist.github.com

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04:56 <nofxx> Software dev taxes here: If you write and sell a "custom computer program": 19.5%, for "service application": 6% . How much do you pay on yr country?

05:03 <ledestin> nofxx what is that? sales tax?

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05:30 <nofxx> ledestin, actually the 'bundle' the gov calls 'simplified taxing' that's the sum

05:31 <nofxx> but yeah, for building and selling a software and a service respectivelly

05:32 <nofxx> note: that's the floor, up to 27% for annual revenue of +3M

05:32 <nofxx> we pay 1st world taxes for 5th world services here in Brasil =/

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05:40 <MackSim> hello ruby world

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05:50 <MackSim> i just started learning ruby. any good resources other than official docs?

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05:54 <womble> MackSim: Chris Pine's "Learn to Program" used to be cited as a good starting point for people who hadn't programmed before; I don't know if it's been kept up to date with newer Rubies, but it'd be worth a look.

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05:56 <MackSim> thank you :)

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06:12 <ledestin> nofxx I just pay income tax. top rate is 33%

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07:45 <maloik> not sure what it is over here, but I think it's 21% on sales but once you pay out your own wage they basically screw you over

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07:46 <maloik> afaik... though I'm bad with administration so I could be dead wrong

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07:48 <ljarvis> moin

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09:00 <CheeseFry> So is there a "Hello World" to IRC #ruby-lang?

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09:02 <apeiros> CheeseFry: I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean?

09:04 <maloik> neither do I :-(

09:04 <CheeseFry> :) First time writing code you make a "hello world" prompt, I'm new to IRC, what's usually the first post? "I'm new!?" "Hey don't hate on me!" ???

09:05 <ljarvis> well you can't change it now

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09:05 <maloik> yea you ruined it ;)

09:05 <CheeseFry> Quite true ljarvis.

09:05 <maloik> (hi)

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09:07 <CheeseFry> What gets discussed on here usually?

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09:08 <ljarvis> um, mysql, mongodb

09:08 <ljarvis> the usual

09:09 <apeiros> CheeseFry: wait for the daily rant by yorickpeterse

09:09 <apeiros> CheeseFry: also welcome to #ruby-lang :)

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09:10 <apeiros> we discuss whatever problems occur in our daily business (or leisure) with ruby

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09:11 <maloik> yea rants are a big part of this channel

09:11 <maloik> :D

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09:13 <maloik> btw ljarvis thanks for that map.with_index line of code the other day... didn't occur to me at the time but in the past I've always been using each_with_index.map

09:14 <ljarvis> maloik: np! :)

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09:25 <maloik> up to 22 proposal submissions for arrrrcamp in like a week or a bit more

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09:26 <maloik> without any promotion other than a tweet or two

09:26 <maloik> gonna start by writing a blog

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09:29 <yorickpeterse> morning

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12:13 <chris2> any alternatives to rubydoc.info?

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12:16 <chris2> or anyone know why rubydoc.info doesnt list "files" anymore?

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12:28 <jhass> maybe you don't include them into the gem?

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12:34 <TvL2386> hi guys, I use test unit to test my gem. If I need to ship some files that are used for input in my tests, do I create them in setup/teardown or can I ship them with my gem? Where would I put them in my gem?

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12:39 <yorickpeterse> TvL2386: 1) you don't need to ship test data (or tests) in a Gem, they're not executed by default

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12:39 <yorickpeterse> There used to be something like gemtesters.com which would do that, but it was shut down a few years back

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12:40 <yorickpeterse> 2) if the data is static, just include it in the repository

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12:40 <yorickpeterse> That way you guarantee fixed test data

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12:41 <TvL2386> yorickpeterse, thanks. What you say makes sense. I mixed up repo and gem here... I wonder if my test directory is actually put in the gem file that is build by 'rake build'.

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12:45 <yorickpeterse> Depends on whether or not the Gemspec includes it

12:45 <yorickpeterse> e.g. I usually use this: https://github.com/YorickPeterse/oga/blob/master/oga.gemspec#L13-L22

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12:47 <TvL2386> yorickpeterse, great!

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14:23 <ljarvis> git ls-files > *

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14:26 <slackR> Hey

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14:26 <slackR> channel active ?

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14:27 <slackR> .bot

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14:35 <yorickpeterse> ljarvis: because you always want to include everything you track in Git in the Gemspec right?

14:35 <yorickpeterse> also using git ls-files sucks if you download a tarball

14:35 <yorickpeterse> because now you suddenly can't build the Gem

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14:37 <ljarvis> you can if you have git

14:37 <yorickpeterse> ... you missed the point

14:37 <ljarvis> probably

14:37 <ljarvis> but anyway

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15:00 <imperator> this still basically true? http://headius.blogspot.com/2008/02/rubys-threadraise-threadkill-timeoutrb.html

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15:03 <headius> yes

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15:04 <headius> either 2.1 or 2.2 added a way you can opt out of thread interrupts within a given region of code, but of course nobody's going to know to use it

15:04 <imperator> headius, thought so, just wanted to make sure since ruby 2.x

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15:04 <imperator> oh? interesting

15:04 <imperator> i'd be curious to see how that works

15:05 <headius> Thread.handle_interrupt(some params saying what you're willing to handle) do ....

15:05 <headius> I pointed out that it doesn't fix ensures unless you put it around the entire begin/ensure body

15:06 <headius> they should have added syntax to ensure like ensure :interrupt => false or something

15:06 <headius> ensure interrupt:false

15:06 <imperator> oh, that would have been nicer, yes

15:06 <imperator> did you propose that?

15:06 <headius> I just thought of it

15:06 <imperator> i vote for that :)

15:06 <headius> or ensure!

15:07 <imperator> i think i favor the former, in case it makes sense to add any other options

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15:08 <headius> yeah

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18:29 <rubynuby> im trying to get my irb console to auto-indent. i typed in IRB.conf[:AUTO_INDENT] = true and it returned True. but it didn't do anything

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18:31 <ljarvis> rubynuby: you need to reload irb for the changes to take effect

18:31 <ljarvis> rubynuby: you can do this inside irb by simply typing irb again

18:31 <ljarvis> otherwise add it to your ~/.irbrc

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18:42 <rubynuby> ljarvis: i tried to reload but still no effect. i restarted temrinal, still no indentation

18:42 <rubynuby> ljarvis: let me try adding it to ~/.irbrc

18:43 <rubynuby> ljarvis: is it supposed to be empty?

18:44 <rubynuby> im using zsh btw.

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19:43 <imperator> headius, one of my co-workers pointed me to this, too: https://github.com/mkwiatkowski/why-timeout-is-broken

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19:44 <headius> imperator: yeah, good example

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19:53 <imperator> btw, looks like handle_interrupt was added in 2.0.0

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20:21 <headius> |jemc|: any luck on that jit bug?

20:21 <headius> imperator: ah ok, thanks

20:22 <headius> 2.0-2.2 blur together for me because we did all of them at once for 9k

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20:24 <|jemc|> headius: other than what I reported on the issue ticket, no - I spent the rest of the night playing with libclang ;)

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20:28 <|jemc|> headius: I'm not sure I understand enough the mechanics of CallSite to proceed further with it

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20:34 <headius> ahhh I see you updated comment after initial

20:34 <headius> well, too bad

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20:41 <|jemc|> headius: yeah I originally hit the post comment button by accident while still typing

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20:47 <headius> |jemc|: well, I hope it's not too hard to fix...struck me as pretty severe since it causes it to quietly start skipping a whole method body

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