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<Stevo123>
havenwood: thats interesting. But not exactly what i am looking for. Looking for a GH Repo that tracks user time in Issues, Commit Messages, Milestones, etc
<Stevo123>
Not sure if anyone is doing it in the actual Issue Tracker. So just trying to see if anyone has seen one before
<Stevo123>
something like that. But more of like someone assigning a Hour of Effort to a issue
<Stevo123>
or to a code commit
<havenwood>
aha, no I don't know of anything
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<havenwood>
Stevo123: like you want to guess how long a Github Issue will take and tag it? i see people creating custom tags sometimes for relative difficulty of the Issue
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<Stevo123>
I would consider that like a estimate and a Budget option
<havenwood>
yuck
<Stevo123>
Know of any good examples
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<Stevo123>
Lots of workplaces have to track the time that a dev spends on stuff because its charged back to the "client"
<Stevo123>
time trap was a good example of another way to track the time plus other syntax formats
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<kookari>
Odd question; what's the difference between use and run in rackup? What gets called on the run? For use, I know that it's call and you're required to call the next app in the chain
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<havenwood>
kookari: you pass #run an argument that responds to #call, and the argument gets called
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<kookari>
havenwood: how's that different from use?
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<havenwood>
kookari: #use is for middleware
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<havenwood>
kookari: and initializes a new instance of the argument then calls #call afaik, dunno
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<havenwood>
kookari: so i don't think you can just pass a lambda to #use, but i really don't know
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<kookari>
havenwood: the difference seems arbitrary; but whenever i look at ru files, I've seen run be the last one the list
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<kookari>
hey there, question about rack. I'm trying to understand how it fits into the whole chain of events.
<kookari>
so rack stands on top of the server
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<kookari>
runs through specified classes (specified with the seemingly interchangeable (???) use and run)
<kookari>
and then returns the possibly modifed 'message'
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<apeiros_unid>
Koshian: no, use/run are used to set the chain up
<apeiros_unid>
invocation happens through call
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<apeiros_unid>
and yes, rack sits between the server and your ruby webapp
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<apeiros_unid>
what it does is provide a standardized interface. e.g. proc { |env| [200, {content_type: "text/plain"}, ["hello"]] } is a valid rack-app. (proc responds to call - and this proc takes the input and returns status-code, headers, body)
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<apeiros_unid>
YOURBESTFRIEND: use irb or pry for your personal tests, not the bot. thanks.
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
>> irb
<eval-in>
YOURBESTFRIEND => undefined local variable or method `irb' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/81847)
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<pontiki>
cricky
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<Stevo123>
anyone know how to get \r\n in a string with regex?
<Stevo123>
[\r\n] are not working
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<popl>
why do you think that would work?
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<popl>
what does [] do?
<Stevo123>
just from reading around some examples were using([\r\n]) and variations of it
<pontiki>
/\r\n/ should work
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<Stevo123>
here is the example i am working with.
<Stevo123>
Dog\r\n\r\n- [ ] Task Name 1\r\n- [ ] Task Name 2\r\n\r\n- [ ] Task Name 3
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<pontiki>
and what do you want to *do*?
<popl>
Stevo123: ok. that doesn't answer my question though. do you know what [] does in regexp?
<Stevo123>
Need it to grab "- [ ] Task Name 1" etc
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<Stevo123>
not enough to explain
<pontiki>
there's a few ways you can do that
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<seemant>
hi all, I'm trying to do a group_by where I get the keys, but I want the values to just be the number of things that are in each group, rather than the things in each group (ie, a count)
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<seemant>
I can't seem to get the syntax for that correct
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<Stevo123>
one is coming out as the new line and the other is a plain string with the escapes
<popl>
This is interpolation.
<popl>
One makes it literal, one interprets the escapes
<Stevo123>
The knowledge i am missing in this case is when running regex, which regex cares about in our code samples
<Stevo123>
going to assume its the double quotes that are proper ;)
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<Stevo123>
that a good assumption?/
<pontiki>
proper is what is necessary to do what you want/need
<popl>
Yes, because assuming is better than knowing.
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<emocakes>
pontiki, did you get the mail i sent you?
<emocakes>
i know its a bit early before xmas
<emocakes>
but I wanted to make sure it got there in time
<pontiki>
when did you send it?
<emocakes>
yesterday
<pontiki>
which address did you use?
<pontiki>
i'm not seeing anything...
<emocakes>
your house address
<Stevo123>
Thank you for the pointers pontiki! I figured it out
<emocakes>
have you checked the mail box?
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<pontiki>
oh, no
<pontiki>
unless you are the california state controller
<popl>
pontiki: Are you a government employee?
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<pontiki>
nope
<popl>
I don't remember who sent me my government paychecks when I worked for California.
<pontiki>
why do you ask?
<pontiki>
oh
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<popl>
I think it might have been the controller.
<popl>
Or rather, the office of the controller.
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<pontiki>
well, it's the office. but his name is on the letterhead
<popl>
Who is it now?
<pontiki>
john chang
<popl>
Yes, that's him.
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<pontiki>
it was just some weird property thing
<pontiki>
i haven't been in california for a few years
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<popl>
I haven't been for a few months. I can't attend school where I am because I'm not a resident yet.
<popl>
Well, I could, but tuition would be exorbitant.
<pontiki>
how long to establish?
<popl>
A year.
<pontiki>
ouch
<popl>
Yes.
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<popl>
And now I work at Wal-Mart. Wee!
<pontiki>
doing any freelancing on the side?
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<popl>
I wish. I have been unable to find anything.
<davidcelis>
Anyone know if there's an easy way to toss up a `binding.pry` without the few lines of context that get displayed before the prompt?
<davidcelis>
banister: ^
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<popl>
pontiki: Someone I know in #perl recommended me to their friend who is doing a start-up in PDX, though. I need to improve my understanding of Ruby first, though, and learn Rails.
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<cow_>
I am successful to join the ruby channel ？
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<emocakes>
no cow_
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<emocakes>
it didnt work
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<shevy>
lol
<shevy>
emocakes the cake is a lie
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<Hanmac>
cow_ the newest ruby channel is on #rubyonrails
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<shevy>
let's cut the cow_
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<cow_>
I will join in the newest channel
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<shevy>
oh man
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<cow_>
Error(477): #rubyonrails Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
<cow_>
why ?
<pipecloud>
cow_: You're in the #ruby channel.
<cow_>
yes, i am in the #ruby channel
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<Hanmac>
"pipecloud uses Hypnosis, it was very effective" ;P
<pipecloud>
lul
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<popl>
cow_: The message you pasted explains the reason you could not join.
<popl>
cow_: Do you have a question about some ruby code?
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<cow_>
I want to join the ruby channel for communicating well
<popl>
cow_: You are in the ruby channel now. Welcome.
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<jle`>
the previous comment about you not being in the ruby channel was a joke
<jle`>
:)
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<pipecloud>
Not a good one, but a joke indeed.
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<shevy>
die all!
<jle`>
:'(
<shevy>
a joke!
<shevy>
:(
<shevy>
I am sorry
<shevy>
one of you may live
<shevy>
:>
<jle`>
can it be me?
<shevy>
yeah
<jle`>
(pls)
<shevy>
first come first serve
<jle`>
okay :)
<jle`>
nose goes
<shevy>
cow_ acted too professional
<shevy>
like those cows in diablo
<shevy>
seemed so innocent... suddenly they pick up a cleaver and try to slaughter you!
<Hanmac>
then you try to run a way but you notice that it was a trap and then they capture you
<shevy>
:(
<shevy>
now I am depressed
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<popl>
That's because you are bipolar.
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* emocakes
makes gentle love to shevy
<emocakes>
feel better now?
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<cow_>
Thanks, I will learn ruby well in the #ruby channel
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<shevy>
emocakes no, only beer can help me
<emocakes>
i can teach you how to pleasure a cake cow
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<popl>
cow_: It's better to learn it by yourself. There are URLs in the topic (type /topic) that will get you started.
<popl>
cow_: Then you can ask questions here if you have a problem.
<cow_>
yes, I got it
<popl>
Cool. :)
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<cow_>
I can't join #rubyonrails for <freenode> Error(477): #rubyonrails Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
<mnemon>
cow_: register you nick /msg nickserv help register
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<shevy>
is there a simple way to output a hash in a sorted manner through pp hash
<shevy>
alphabetically sorted that is
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<Hanmac>
shevy Hashs are not sorted like that, you can try to write your on class or each_ method for that
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<popl>
why do you want to sort a hash?
<popl>
do you want to sort the keys or the values?
<shevy>
popl only keys
<shevy>
I use a large hash as configuration object for a project. I wanted to quickly see the value of one key but pp displayed it in a chaotic, unordered fashion
<popl>
because a hash is an unordered collection of key-value pairs
<Hanmac>
hm i would make a SortedHash class like that: SortedHash.new(data,&:first) and then it would be sort the data by keys while iterating
<shevy>
popl that is nice to know but doesn't solve my problem ;)
<shevy>
"rails made matz" - today's epic quote from #ruby
<shevy>
popl if you did not read any pickaxe, it's ok
<shevy>
I read the one before and liked it a lot
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<shevy>
I bought that one too and didn't like it as much (and also knew more ruby than before, so the investment, both money but especially the time investment, was not as much worth it as before)
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<emocakes>
i just bought a new go book
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<emocakes>
it seems pretty good so far
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<shevy>
everyone goes go
<shevy>
and abandons ruby
<shevy>
:(
<emocakes>
ruby is nice shevy
<popl>
Go is neat.
<emocakes>
go just kicks ruby's ass when it comes to certain things
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<jacobat>
Hi. I'm seeing something very weird - two different machine returning different results for basically the same calculation: https://gist.github.com/jacobat/8081667
<jacobat>
Any ideas what might be going on?
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<pipecloud>
Are the machines identical?
<pipecloud>
Any reason you're on 1.8.7?
<jacobat>
It's an old rails app
<pipecloud>
my condolences.
<MrZYX>
64 vs 32 bit machine?
<jacobat>
I expect they're both 64 bit - at least that's what the code seems to be telling me
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<MrZYX>
i686 is 32 bit, no?
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<popl>
yes
<MrZYX>
so at least one of your rubies is running as 32bit
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<jacobat>
On a 64 bit system
<jacobat>
"uname -a" on the 32 bit ruby system: root:xnu-2422.1.72~6/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
<jacobat>
Could that result in these weird integer calculations?
<pipecloud>
yup
<jacobat>
I'll try recompiling ruby and see if that fixes the issue
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<jacobat>
So, compiling ruby fixed it. Thanks!
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<amarraja>
if I update a dependency with apt-get e.g. libxml, then do I need to reinstall gems which use it?
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<shevy>
why are you asking here about debian specific stuff
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<waxjar>
amarraja: i believe not, but i'm really not sure.
<shevy>
if it is a ruby library that has to be compiled (native extensions), then you have to uncripple these packages by installing the devel packages.
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<shevy>
normally debian denotes this with something like dev- or some other crap
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<shevy>
if the .so version differs from the one that the ruby library was compiled against with, then one has to recompile the ruby library against that new version
<amarraja>
shevy: thanks, not sure where the deb/gem line starts or ends, thought is was more of a gem thing
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<amarraja>
waxjar: thanks. think it's ok now as i've not seen any issues -- will look into it more
<shevy>
I think waxjar is also partially right, some programs work just fine without one having to recompile. I think it depends on the program(s) and how much they changed during version changes
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<charliesome>
amarraja: depends if the new version maintains ABI compatibility
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<charliesome>
it will probably say so in the release notes if it has breaking abi changes
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<amarraja>
charliesome: makes sense. may just recompile all just to make sure as some of my dependencies are really old
<shevy>
debian is built for eternity :>
<amarraja>
shevy: sure is, still running lenny. don't like upgrading stuff if it works, but thought it for the best and I need to yakshave for a while
<shevy>
hehe
<shevy>
you shave yaks?
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<amarraja>
haha! amongst other things, yep
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<shevy>
Hanmac, in ruby code
<shevy>
what is better
<shevy>
(1)
<shevy>
save_config
<shevy>
(2)
<shevy>
save :config
<Hanmac>
depends ... how many different save_ functions do you have? are they very different from each other or very very similar?
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<shevy>
Hanmac for all registered entries in save() I also have a save_FOO variant
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<shevy>
they are very similar
<shevy>
I only just recently noticed that I seem to use both variants in my code
<shevy>
save_bla and save :bla
<shevy>
and that confuses my brain
<waxjar>
are the FOOs "user-defined" or provided by your library/code/w/e
<Hanmac>
hm i think than you can mkae "save :config" and then let save_config redirect to it
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<LadyRainicorn>
save_config seems unnecesary in that case.
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<shevy>
waxjar all defined in file save.rb, all part of the library/code
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<shevy>
k so I take it you prefer save :bla notation there
<waxjar>
then i'd go with the methods, actually. i don't think its fair to make whoever uses the library remember all possible Symbols that #save takes.
<shevy>
no, they never have to remember
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<shevy>
hmm
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<shevy>
save_bla is one character shorter than save :bla
<shevy>
:D
<waxjar>
lol
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<niteshnarayanlal>
hi was getting an error
<niteshnarayanlal>
Could not find gem 'middleman (~> 3.0.5) ruby' in the gems available on this machine.
<niteshnarayanlal>
although middleman is already installed
<niteshnarayanlal>
I think there is version conflict
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<Hanmac>
niteshnarayanlal: how did you install ruby, how did you install the gem?
<Hanmac>
niteshnarayanlal: what does "ruby -v" "which ruby" and "gem env" shows you?
<LadyRainicorn>
gem install ruby
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<shevy>
gem install my_little_ponicorns!
<shevy>
niteshnarayanlal say something
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<LadyRainicorn>
I want that gem!
<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
perhaps I will write one... a game written in gamebox...
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<niteshnarayanlal>
shevy, hey was afk
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<niteshnarayanlal>
I actually installed the gem one by one
<tempspace>
Hey Ruby experts, I am in need of help. We have a rails app running on unicorn, 16 workers, dual hex core CPU. The unicorn's combined are taking 70-80% of the entire CPU on the system. Avg response time is 80-90 ms
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<tempspace>
What processes can we do to try and lower the CPU? That seems slightly ridiculous for only doing 16 requests at a time
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<jxport>
Why use symbols for hash keys when you can use strings?
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<Hanmac>
jxport: memory
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<shevy>
jxport string objects always have different object_id's, symbols always same
<near77>
hi
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<near77>
is there a way to check if im behind the output from stdin ?
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<jxport>
shevy: why does that detail matter? They still match, don't they
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<jxport>
Hanmac: I'm dealing with a very small number of keys - under 10. It seems to make more sense in this case to keep them as strings -- sounds more expensive to be .to_sym and .to_s'ing them back and forth
<shevy>
jxport it matters because string objects will never be as efficient as symbols
<Hanmac>
jxport: never ever use to_sym on user input
<Hanmac>
jxport: read shevy's link "Downside: Each symbol consumes a slot in the Ruby interpreter's symbol-table, which is never released. Symbols are never garbage-collected. So a corner-case is when you have a large number of symbols (e.g. auto-generated ones). In that case you should evaluate how this affects the size of your Ruby interpreter."
<jxport>
Bah I'm just going to use strings
<jxport>
This is premature optimisation and it's user input too
<jxport>
Why were user inputted symbols bad?
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<jxport>
Thought you meant security
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<jxport>
Ok - DoS
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<shevy>
Hanmac, can I respond in a ruby script when a user presses key combinations: alt-key and left-arrow-key together?
<Hanmac>
not with the lib i know about
<shevy>
:(
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<ua>
shevy, youre google alergic or just banned?
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<dfrank>
hi all. I'm pretty new to ruby and ruby-on-rails, and I can't really find any info about method naming conventions. Say, I have class Tag, instances of which can have many synonyms. So, should I name methods to add/remove synonym as synonym_add() and synonym_remove(), or add_synonym() and remove_synonym()?
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<pontiki>
dfrank: *shrug* i like verb-noun myself
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<dfrank>
pontiki: so no conventions, it's just a matter of taste of each developer?
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<pontiki>
idk
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<dfrank>
pontiki: ok, thanks
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<pontiki>
are you asking me to speak for the entire ruby community? :)
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<dfrank>
pontiki: if you're aware of existing conventions, yes.
<pontiki>
not aware at that level, sorry
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<shevy>
ua hey man wanna help
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<shevy>
dfrank I think add_ and remove_ first are easier to read
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<shevy>
dfrank I don't think there is any convention that would govern the placement of add or remove actions
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<shevy>
for method names
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<dfrank>
shevy: ok, thanks
<dfrank>
let it be add_ and remove_
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<shevy>
:)
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<shevy>
like the linux command
<shevy>
useradd
<shevy>
useradd [-c comment] [-d home_dir]
<shevy>
my brain did not like it
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<pontiki>
and contrast that with the linux command adduser
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<shevy>
and all the other aliases
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<shevy>
adduser newusers useradd userdel usermod
<shevy>
we have userdel but not deluser :(
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<dagen>
)
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<miah>
hi
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<ununPentium>
howdy.. newby to ruby here.. I got rvm installed and permissions look ok (opensuse12.3) the problem is that on the netbeans plugin all gem paths defaut to ruby2.0, and i want to use ruby 1.9.3 (the book i'm reading) on my laptap install i removed the platform from netbeans and then autodetect and woot all ver of Ruby were pointing to the right gem paths, not so on netbeans on my home comp. rvm gemsets and ruby versions match on commandline, but
<ununPentium>
not in netbeans.. and i'm feeling rather stumped right now
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<YOURBESTFRIEND>
do you run netbeans from the terminal?
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<Jamo>
is your $PATH set up correctly (rvm folders should be before systems default rubys location)
<ununPentium>
no YOURBESTFRIEND clicky clicky
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
ununPentium: run it from the terminal
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
$ rvm use ruby-1.9.3
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
$ netbeans
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<YOURBESTFRIEND>
or whatever it is
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<ununPentium>
Jamo: the current/default ruby is in the path (1.9.3-p484)
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<ununPentium>
YOURBESTFRIEND: k... running from term
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<agent_white>
Switch away from Netbeans to Sublime and save yourself some hassle :P
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<ununPentium>
removed and then autodetect - all versions installed defaulted to current set ... so that solves that for now. lol
<ununPentium>
thx
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<agent_white>
Yay learning! I'm doing that too
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
agent_white: please, do not suggest proprietary software
<agent_white>
MT :P
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<agent_white>
YOURBESTFRIEND: Well I would suggest VIM instead, but it might be a curveball coming from Netbeans.
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<YOURBESTFRIEND>
vim is a nice choice
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<agent_white>
Anything not an IDE is a nice choice ;P
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
and sublime text is better with vintage mode than without vintage mode
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
still proprietary, though
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<MrZYX>
YOURBESTFRIEND: please do not try to enforce an ideology
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<agent_white>
Maybe gvim then? If he prefers his mouse.
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
MrZYX: WHY not?
<MrZYX>
it's a believe system, people are free to choose their own
<ununPentium>
i'll give sublime a shot agent_white
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
we're on freenode after all, not proprietarynode
<agent_white>
I would suggest eating, but food is proprietary.
<YOURBESTFRIEND>
MrZYX: and I should be free to advice what I want
<MrZYX>
sure, so say "you shouldn't use sublime, I think it's bad because it's proprietary" instead of asking people to not even mention it
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<MrZYX>
the later is trying to enforce your believe system upon other people
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<MrZYX>
aside from that
<MrZYX>
lets not do another editor war please ;)
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<shevy>
vim sucks
<agent_white>
MrZYX: I agree, we all know VIM is best.
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<agent_white>
... ;P
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<pipecloud>
agent_white: Vim or vim not VIM. Like lua or Lua not LUA
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<shevy>
vIM?
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* Hanmac1
uses eclipse but only because i need an IDE that can manage my multitasking with the files
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<agent_white>
pipecloud: Nah that emphasis was for me shouting irl. ;) But thank you, actually didn't know that.
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<pipecloud>
Hanmac: I don't know how vim can't, but maybe you're just insane! :D
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<Hanmac>
curently i have 89 documents open with eclispe (one project)
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<shevy>
vim can not handle 89 documents
<shevy>
as said before, it sucks
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<agent_white>
That's like saying "my car is fast because it is red"
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<shevy>
it is
<shevy>
I <3 my ferrari
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<agent_white>
Iono, yellow might be a contender
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<shevy>
a yellow ferrari?
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<pipecloud>
Hanmac: Ah. I've never needed that many buffers open, I'll give it a try some time.
<Hanmac>
agent_white: a PC is like a car ... open windows makes it slower ;P
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<agent_white>
Hanmac: I have yet to find out if I can fill up 16 gigs of ram with text files. :P
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<Hanmac>
thats easy ...currently my firefox uses >8 GB ;P
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<agent_white>
Oh I see, you part of Tabaholics Anonymous as well?
<pipecloud>
But that's not surprising. That's firefox.
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<pipecloud>
I prefer chrome myself. Separate processes are good for you.
<Hanmac>
yeah i open tabs and then i forgot them ...
<Hanmac>
agent_white: do you know the addon TreeStyleTab for firefox? ;P
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<canton7>
^^ pretty much the entire reason I use firefox
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<agent_white>
Hanmac: Can't say I do! I use Chrome!
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<agent_white>
pipecloud: Rad, just got that addon installed :D
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<Hanmac>
with TreeStyleTabs you can group your tabs into sections and subsections (and subsubsections ... i think you get it) and show the tabs on the left or right side like a FolderStructure in a file explorer
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<agent_white>
I'm taking a peek at it now... looks pretty awesome
<pipecloud>
I prefer mine to be ordered by how long I want them to be around, with newest on the right.
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<flatr0ze_>
ello; using .scan(/<my pattern>/m) on a string, always getting only the last match except for getting an array; using ruby 1.8.7; does anybody know what may be causing .scan() to not return an aaray of only one result?
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<Hanmac>
flatr0ze_: you should not use 1.8.7
<flatr0ze_>
bugged?
<Hanmac>
its dead and buried
<shevy>
flatr0ze_ can you give more arguments to scan()
<flatr0ze_>
I'll look it up, thanks shevy ; will probably compile 1.9.2 or whatever is the latest