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<EasyCo> Hey guys, can somebody clarify why when iterating through floats to generate a sum I sometimes get weird decimal results: https://gist.github.com/trev/e32a4bd9e8bdb266b669
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<heftig> EasyCo: welcome to floating point
<heftig> that's expected
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<EasyCo> heftig, I figured as much, I'm just not having much luck finding literature that expands on the subject
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<heftig> >> sprintf "%.32f", 106.90
<eval-in____> heftig => "106.90000000000000568434188608080149" (https://eval.in/191965)
<heftig> EasyCo: it starts with the fact that 106.9 cannot be accurately represented
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<benzrf> >> 106.90
<eval-in____> benzrf => 106.9 (https://eval.in/191966)
<benzrf> >> 106.90.to_s
<eval-in____> benzrf => "106.9" (https://eval.in/191967)
<benzrf> >> 106.90 + 1 - 1
<eval-in____> benzrf => 106.9 (https://eval.in/191968)
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<benzrf> hmmmm
<benzrf> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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<EasyCo> heftig, I see
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<RustyShackleford> is there a way to populate a list with all the same values
<shevy> RustyShackleford what is a list
<RustyShackleford> er, they're called arrays in ruby, right?
<shevy> yeah
<RustyShackleford> my bad
<heftig> RustyShackleford: Array.new(length) { value }
<RustyShackleford> anyway, lets say I an array with 1000 trues
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<heftig> RustyShackleford: or Array.new(length, value) for immediates like true or 3
<shevy> Array.new(1000, true)
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<heftig> [true] * 1000 works too
<RustyShackleford> do arrays behave like lists in python? You can keep appending new values without having to create a new, bigger array?
<heftig> yes
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<ckrailo> can anybody think of why you *wouldnt* want to run strip on every value in the params hash that responds to it?
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<ckrailo> (rails q)
<benzrf> ckrailo: if youre not a hack
<benzrf> ^brain vomit pls ignore
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<ckrailo> it's either that or explicitly add stripping to like a third of the rails app's params :\
<shevy> perhaps when you have significant ' 's
<eam> I feel like the answer is too obvious: don't do it if you have significant leading or trailing whitespace
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<shevy> RustyShackleford the simplest way is to invoke the << method on the array object, to append. it works on strings too, you can happily do << ... just like in C++ as well
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<eam> ckrailo: might I suggest stripped_params = %w{all your params which want stripping}
<eam> and simply loop over the limited set?
<pipework> I loooove stripping!
<EasyCo> What a coincidence, so do I!
<eam> with parameters I hope
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<ckrailo> eam: that's the other option, yeah. the app doesnt have any user inputs yet that need significant whitespace before/after that i know of. just wanted to see if there were other cases i wasn't thinking of.
<eam> that are used by your app today, or potentially in the future?
<ckrailo> yes :P
<eam> then that's an easy "yes"
<shevy> this is a yes channel
<ckrailo> oooo another thought
<eam> shevy: only when it comes to stripping
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<ckrailo> params.require(:stuff).permit(:more_stuff).strip(:stuff)
<ckrailo> that seems explicit and clean
<RustyShackleford> shevy, good to know. I hate the look of C++'s stream operators though
<RustyShackleford> C++ is not a language I would borrow syntax from lol
<shevy> object << stuff
<shevy> object.add stuff
<eam> RustyShackleford: C++ is not the origin of that operator
<shevy> object.push stuff
<shevy> sorry, I go with << RustyShackleford
<shevy> :)
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<RustyShackleford> eam, where does it come from then? just curious
<ckrailo> cheers eam
<eam> well before C++, C
<shevy> RustyShackleford the thing with ruby is that people become very lazy because the ruby parser allows laziness
<shevy> so the less to type, the better
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<shevy> I only stop when I see people do this:
<shevy> def foo bla, ble
<shevy> it is an insult to my poor eyes
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<eam> did C invent << and >>? I'm not entirely sure
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<RustyShackleford> well C uses << and >> for bit shifting
<eam> I think it's unique to C, not present in B
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<eam> RustyShackleford: so does C++
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<RustyShackleford> but i don't think it makes sense for streams/concatenation
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<eam> the difference is in C++ they're also overloaded, because C++ can overload operators
<eam> same is true of +, -, etc
<eam> (and ruby overloads operators aka pretends they're sometimes methods)
<pipework> Math probably invented them.
<eam> pipework: well CPL doesn't appear to use them
<eam> nor BCPL
<eam> can't find a definitive syntax though
<eam> fortran and cobol used alpha keywords
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<eam> LSHIFT and ISHFT
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<RustyShackleford> I'm looking for something like python's enumerate()
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<shevy> what does enumerate do
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<shevy> my scaly friend RustyShackleford :)
<shevy> shshh zzsh shshsh shhshsh
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<RustyShackleford> sorry got distracted by someone asking me a question
<shevy> your cat
<RustyShackleford> so in python you can do something like: for (i, elem) in list:
<shevy> that old lil geezer
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<shevy> I still don't know what that does but you probably want:
<shevy> your_array.each
<RustyShackleford> where i is the index, and elem is the list. The idea being that you don't need an extra variable for the index
<shevy> unsure about that elem part
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<shevy> ruby is different
<shevy> your_array.each_with_index {|entry, index|
<RustyShackleford> you use enumerate when you want to interate in order, but also need to know the index of the element
<shevy> yeah, there you go
<pipework> RustyShackleford: Enumerable has what you need in it.
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<shevy> ruby is like lego blocks
<shevy> you can build even a death star but you do so with little baby steps
<RustyShackleford> I still prefer python so far. Probably just cause I know it better
<RustyShackleford> they are pretty similar
<shevy> somewhat
<shevy> the philosophy is what keeps them different
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<shevy> their use case and niche is very similar
<shevy> and the dialect
<shevy> shshh szzZS shshh SHSh
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<shevy> what made me very sad was that you can not have a nick called "python" and join #python
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<miah> well; somebody registered the python nick in 2005 =)
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<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> oh well
<shevy> it's not as much fun in #ruby
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<rubie> jhass: u still here?
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<rubie> workin on my first program - general question - cant figure out why line 55 wont work when someone selects to learn asia capitols -- https://gist.github.com/gabrie30/55356d792a5925d22d6a
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<benzrf> >> 'talisman o namsilat'.reverse
<eval-in____> benzrf => "talisman o namsilat" (https://eval.in/192002)
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<Soliah> Can someone run ruby -rnet/https -e "Net::HTTP.get URI('https://api.xively.com')" and tell me if they're getting an SSL verification error?
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<rubie> can i tell ruby to run the program again from a certain point if we dont get the correct response from a user
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<rubie> whats that called
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<rubie> is there a way to start a program over?
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<rubie> without doing a for, while, etc loop
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<MiracleBlue> Quick question, is there a rails-specific channel on freenode?
<sevenseacat> #rubyonrails
<MiracleBlue> sevenseacat: Thanks heaps
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<benzrf> bye
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<Phrogz_> Someone recently posted an idiom that was far more elegant than File.join( File.dirname(__FILE__), foo ); anyone have any idea what it might have been?
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<soahccc> Phrogz_, it wasn't this, was it? File.expand_path("../..", __FILE__)
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<Phrogz_> No, but it definitely did use expand_path, thanks :)
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<mozzarella> >> __dir__
<eval-in____> mozzarella => "/tmp/execpad-d4d950974d8d" (https://eval.in/192027)
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<mozzarella> >> __FILE__
<eval-in____> mozzarella => "/tmp/execpad-94a1cdc8ce45/source-94a1cdc8ce45" (https://eval.in/192028)
<mozzarella> >> [__dir__, __FILE__].inspect
<eval-in____> mozzarella => "[\"/tmp/execpad-f13f88fd2937\", \"/tmp/execpad-f13f88fd2937/source-f13f88fd2937\"]" (https://eval.in/192029)
<Phrogz_> I'm trying to support Ruby 1.9.3 with this code, so no __dir__ for me
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<soahccc> mozzarella, I use the expand_path mostly to resolve relative paths (~ or ..)
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<soahccc> I'm currently using `tar` but would like to try to make it windows compatible (I know). I tried to use the archive gem but I get an error which also makes me believe that it won't work on windows... any ideas? archive-0.0.6/lib/archive/compress.rb:96:in `block in compress_files': Error while calling stat(): No such file or directory (RuntimeError)
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<atomi> in an erb ruby is failing on the underscore "<%= myvar %>_access.log"
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<atomi> how would I rewrite that?
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<Phrogz_> atomi: That is fine Erb syntax.
<Phrogz_> You have another mistake somewhere.
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<sdegutis> What do you think of when you hear about an app called "Minion"?
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<AlexRussia> atomi: man, where did you define 'mywar'?
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<AlexRussia> atomi: just as i know all variables which you use into erb and which defined outside of that, should be object variable(@mywar), else them just nil
<sevenseacat> sdegutis: sounds like an elder scrolls online add-on manager. >_>
<sdegutis> :(
<atomi> AlexRussia: it's not nil
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<AlexRussia> atomi: so, whats you do and what you get?
<atomi> AlexRussia: yeah it is nil haha
<AlexRussia> lol
<AlexRussia> atomi: 'mywar' are defined in method where you call erb, yeah?
<sdegutis> is the name Delegate.app a horrible, horrible idea?
<atomi> AlexRussia: yeah, myvar is from a .each call but it was outside of the block
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<AlexRussia> sdegutis: idk OS X standards about names :D
<AlexRussia> atomi: so, just make it variable of object
<AlexRussia> atomi: @mywar
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<Phrogz> sdegutis: If you care about people finding and understanding it…yeah, prolly.
<AlexRussia> atomi: because local variable too much local.Its not seen even in erb :D
<Phrogz> AlexRussia: You can supply a binding to Erb where it gets local variables from.
<AlexRussia> Phrogz: probability
<AlexRussia> Phrogz: but....why we need it? :D
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<Phrogz> Because sometimes too many @ are undesirable? *shrug*
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<AlexRussia> Phrogz: :)
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<AlexRussia> atomi: so, you fix that?
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<northfurr> Eek, disregard that.
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<TieSoul> how do I get the largest index in an array that is not a certain value?
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<TieSoul> I mean, the element corresponding to the index is not a certain value
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<TieSoul> I could probably do each_index.max_by {|i| arr[i] != 0 ? i : -1}
<TieSoul> but I'm wondering if there's a better way to do it
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<TieSoul> oh wait, my array is much too large for that solution
<TieSoul> I'm looking in a massive 3-dimensional array for the highest x, y, and z values that are not 32.
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<Hanmac> TieSoul: hm maybe each_with_index is better?
<RustyShackleford> forgive me for this noob question: how do you access code you wrote in a different file?
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<RustyShackleford> do you have to declare it in a module?
<TieSoul> require_relative 'filename'
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<TieSoul> by massive 3-dimensional array I mean 1 million by 1 million by 1 million
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<TieSoul> so iterating over the entire thing is not feasible
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<TieSoul> oh, and on top of that, there's a hash for 3-dimensional points higher than 1 million that I also have to include
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<TieSoul> I probably have to make that array smaller
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<TieSoul> in fact I wonder how it managed to have that array? Dynamic memory allocation?
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<j_mcnally> why don't private / protected modifiers take blocks?
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<j_mcnally> wouldnt that make more sense than "Call private and then everything defined after is private, untill you call a different modifier"
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<sevenseacat> not really... ruby already offers the alternative of 'specify methods you want to be made private/etc'
<Mon_Ouie> Yeah, it's a bit magic, but sort of too late to change that
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<Mon_Ouie> Now you can do private def foo too, which looks sort of neat
<j_mcnally> o thats nice
<j_mcnally> thanks
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<j_mcnally> when did that start?
<j_mcnally> 2.x or 2.1.x ?
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<Mon_Ouie> Ruby 2.x, when def foo; …; end started returning :foo
<j_mcnally> thank Mon_Ouie
<j_mcnally> *thanks
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<lxsameer> is it ok to use 'require_relative' ? is there any pitfall ?
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<tobiasvl> lxsameer: the only pitfall I can think of is that it's not supported in 1.8
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<lxsameer> tobiasvl: that's ok , thanks
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<shevy> lxsameer it is not needed
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<AxonetBE> somebody has good cms for 1 page websites with contact form?
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<lxsameer> shevy: why ?
<sevenseacat> you need a cms for that?
<AxonetBE> sevenseacat: not really it can also be a static html page but we need the contact form
<AxonetBE> what should I use?
<shevy> lxsameer reason is that for a standard ruby project layout, with lib/name_of_project/ and lib/name_of_project.rb, ruby will already look in the SITE_DIR path when loading the projects, so you only have to do: require 'name_of_project' and that .rb file gets loaded and can load subsequently the other files of the project with plain require() alone
<tobiasvl> AxonetBE: html maybe?
<sevenseacat> html is good.
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<wasamasa> html is the best cms
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<AxonetBE> tobiasvl: sevenseacat: ok but we are web company and static html looks weird then no? :)
<AxonetBE> so you would go just for html?
<wasamasa> AxonetBE: just insert an e-mail link
<tobiasvl> AxonetBE: if you are a web company, shouldn't you be able to make a decision on what to use?
<lxsameer> shevy: ah, I'm using it inside a gem which my paths gets really long
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<sevenseacat> what tobiasvl said
<wasamasa> AxonetBE: problem solved
<tobiasvl> who are we to tell a web company what to do about your website? we're ruby programmers
<wasamasa> s/ruby programmers/hipsters/
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<tobiasvl> I'm not a hipster, I don't do web stuff
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<AxonetBE> always nice to have 2nd opinions :)
* sevenseacat does lots of web stuff
<Mon_Ouie> tobiasvl: That's what makes you a hipster!
* wasamasa does stuff involving the web
<wasamasa> I'm still sad there's no one http gem to rule them all
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<tobiasvl> Mon_Ouie: oh! okay! but I don't do app development either, isn't that what's hip nowadays?
<tobiasvl> I dunno, man.
<sevenseacat> swift dev is where the hipsters are at, isnt it
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<tobiasvl> yeah
<tobiasvl> writing swift in atom
<sevenseacat> hah
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<tobiasvl> on their macbooks
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<wasamasa> typhoeus might be it
* sevenseacat knows several people who do just that
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<oponder> Hey guys, i'm trying to package up a project into a One Click Ruby Application (OCRA). Basically a self extracting zip file that includes your script, a ruby runtime, and any gems/libraries youre using. And its working awesome.
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<oponder> except for the mysql2 gem which has a C Extension (mysql2.so)
<sevenseacat> that sound like a ngithmare
<sevenseacat> nightmare even
<oponder> yeah...
<oponder> anyone ever played around with this stuff... or like.. compiling extensions at runtime?
<sevenseacat> seriously, how big are the zips it generates?
<oponder> 6mb
<sevenseacat> no way
<oponder> wayway
<oponder> its doable, and it even has an installer, if you wanna avoid unpacking it each time
<sevenseacat> its more than that just for ruby
<oponder> ruby isnt that big is it?
<oponder> like ruby.exe
<sevenseacat> buggered if i know, ive just seen this is a windows-only tool which makes me lol
<oponder> ah i dunno exactly what its doing,.. but it works for the most part
<oponder> yeah this aint no passion project
<oponder> this is about getting something to interface with some 'legacy'ish software
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<shevy> oponder I'd guess even more than 10MB
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<oponder> hmm.. maybe there's a lot of compressable stuff?
<shevy> half a year ago I wrote a script that bundles all my gems into one archive
<oponder> the unpacked folder clocks in at around 26mb
<shevy> that's quite a lot
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<oponder> yeah... not ideal, but size isn't really the constraint here
<oponder> I mean if it was an order of magnitude bigger, I'd pull the plug for sure
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<oponder> and its pretty wacky what im trying to do... but it basically boils down to copying your Ruby folder from one windows machine to another
<oponder> and making it all work still. and most of it does, except for that pesky mysql2
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<oponder> so yeah, not expecting anyone to have been in this situation before... but figured I'd pop in and see if anyone had some similar experiences
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<pontiki> one does have to wonder why one would ship mysql in a stand-alone application
<Guest73511> some body know any good web crawler/scraper library in ruby
<pontiki> mechanize
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<Guest73511> mechanize crashes when there are too many http request
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<Guest73511> in short period of time
<Guest73511> i had to mankey patch it to make it work
<workmad3> Guest73511: what is 'too many' in this case?
<Guest73511> 10000 in 1 hour
<Guest73511> it has something to do with mechanize not being able to close connections properly
<workmad3> ah, so it's really a resource leak... cos that's under 3 connections a second
<workmad3> and if it's a resource leak, it wouldn't really matter how long it took, I suspect
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<Guest73511> workmad3: yup, i found a monkey patch that works but i am looking for something better
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<shevy> I found a monkey
<shevy> I will patch him soon
<rdark> Guest73511: there's cobweb, but it's a bit big to be considered a library
<rdark> in that it needs resque and other things
<shevy> oponder in principle a .gem is just an archive like a zip. all you have to do is put up the binaries into that archive. you do know how to create a .gem file right?
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<atmosx> where is tenderlove when you need it?
<Guest73511> rdark: i will check out cobweb thanks
<atmosx> shevy: WHERE? haha
<workmad3> shevy: it has some metadata requirements too :)
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<shevy> yeah
<shevy> atmosx why do you need him
<pontiki> tenderlove isn't an "it"
<shevy> this is how windows 9 will look: http://images.derstandard.at/2014/09/11/win91.jpg
<pontiki> he's a really nice guy
<atmosx> he's awesome, he can write dtrace tests for ruby :-/
<shevy> he wrote the syck gem
<atmosx> among other things, and I need to understand what is happening
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<atmosx> I need to get on a plane in about 75 minutes, too bad there's no internet connction there yet :-(
<pontiki> watir-webdriver also works as a crawler/scraper, and of course, you can write your own
<shevy> atmosx you fly to turkiye?
<atmosx> nope to Greece, I'm in Vienna right now
<atmosx> airport
<shevy> cool
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<shevy> I let ruby autogenerate shell scripts
<shevy> that still sucks
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<shevy> for file in $@
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<_lazarevsky> hello all
<shevy> I now know why perl has so strange characters
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<pontiki> hi
<pontiki> why?
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<_lazarevsky> I've got a quick question. I'm looking at a legacy code, which is a ruby script, which starts with module ...
<_lazarevsky> then at the end of the file there's a line which goes moduleName::ClassName.start(ARGV)
<_lazarevsky> I'm lost as to that gets executed first?
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<_lazarevsky> there is no main() method or anything like that in the class nested within the module
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<pontiki> module defines a ruby module
<_lazarevsky> which method gets executed first?
<pontiki> moduleName::ClassName.start
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<shevy> pontiki all those things like $@, that was in shell scripts
<_lazarevsky> there is not start method
<pontiki> if you stop using fake names, it might be easier to discuss
<_lazarevsky> pontiki: there is no start method
<_lazarevsky> defined in the class
<pontiki> if you stop using fake names, it might be easier to discuss
<shevy> _lazarevsky if the script runs, that method exists
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<_lazarevsky> pontiki: were you talking to me?
<pontiki> yes
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<shevy> and btw
<shevy> moduleName is not possible
<shevy> because a module starts with upcased char
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<_lazarevsky_> hey there
<_lazarevsky_> sorry I got d/c
<shevy> :\
<shevy> :/
<_lazarevsky_> someone mentioned that if the script runs then such method exists
<_lazarevsky_> I'm looking at the file
<_lazarevsky_> there is not start method
<pontiki> if you stop using fake names, it might be easier to discuss
<_lazarevsky_> could you point me to a link
<shevy> _lazarevsky_ there are two possibilities
<_lazarevsky_> where it's explained wjat'
<shevy> (1) the script does not run, in which case some error would normally be given to you
<shevy> (2) the script runs
<_lazarevsky_> shevy: the script runs on some remote server
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<shevy> so it runs fine
<shevy> then the method must exist
<shevy> it is as simple as that
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<_lazarevsky_> shevy.. but I've got a class
<_lazarevsky_> with 4 methods
<_lazarevsky_> when you say module::classn.start
<_lazarevsky_> which method gets called first? what's the entry point?
<shevy> _lazarevsky_ look man
<shevy> _lazarevsky_ object.name_of_method
<pontiki> ruby is a scripting language
<shevy> ok?
<pontiki> there is no "entry point"
<shevy> so name_of_method is start() here _lazarevsky_
<_lazarevsky_> shevy: there is no method called start
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<pontiki> it starts interpretting from the very first line
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<shevy> don't go on my nerves _lazarevsky_ - if there is no such method then it would not fucking run
<_lazarevsky_> :D
<_lazarevsky_> shevy: let me gist the module
<shevy> >> class Foo; def self.test; puts 'MAN'; end; end; Foo.test()
<pontiki> FINALLY
<eval-in____> shevy => MAN ... (https://eval.in/192129)
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<shevy> there
<shevy> it works fine
<shevy> and if you put that class into a module, it will still work fine
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<_lazarevsky_> shevy: a small detail I overlookedf
<_lazarevsky_> the class extends another class
<_lazarevsky_> which defines that method
<_lazarevsky_> whew.. that makes more sense.. wtf
<_lazarevsky_> :)
<soahccc> Are question about ruby on windows via ruby installer allowed? SSL does not work and I can't find a way to work around it :/
<_lazarevsky_> thanks and sorry for getting on your nerve
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<_lazarevsky_> the class it extends is THro
<_lazarevsky_> Thor rather
<pontiki> soahccc: they're allowed, but sadly hardly anyone uses it, so it might not garner an answer
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<shevy> problem is many people here don't use windows
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<shevy> I abandoned it for linux years ago
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<soahccc> pontiki, I'm usually not using ruby on windows as well and it's really a pain to work with the CMD :D But I guess the SSL thing is implementation based. Maybe I could somehow hack out the SSL verification for my process but I couldn't figure it out yet
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<wasamasa> just reimplement ssl in pure ruby
<wasamasa> what could possibly go wrong
* wasamasa glances at shevy
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<pontiki> when i've been forced into the windows world, i've always installed cygwin, so i'm not even able to draw on that experience to help out
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<arup_r> Can anyone help me to refactor https://gist.github.com/gists
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<arup_r> How to make it perfect
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<soahccc> "fileutils.rb:349:in `symlink': symlink() function is unimplemented" okay, fuck it... I thought NTFS can do symlink it's just not in the GUI :/
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<AlexRussia> soahccc: probability is it
<AlexRussia> soahccc: but you could found implementation in C and realize this function into ruby
<AlexRussia> soahccc: ;)
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<crome> uh
<crome> beurtiful
<wasamasa> purtiful
<crome> soahccc: you might as well use shellescape for the filenames if you go this way
<crome> (which is also not bulletproof)
<soahccc> yeah I don't care about escaping here
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<crome> just an idea, I would write a wrapper for CreateSymbolicLink in kernel32.dll
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<crome> calling cmd is just, uh
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<shevy> wasamasa hey why would I want to implement ssl in ruby
<wasamasa> shevy: you talked about implementing an operating system and everything involved in it in ruby
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<shevy> oh that
<pontiki> arup_r: you could have summing_values check if res is empty
<shevy> I wouldn't implement ssl
<shevy> it's a pile of utter crap
<wasamasa> why not?
<shevy> look at it man
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<wasamasa> no, the implementations are
<shevy> did you know that there even is a ssl3.so ?
<shevy> ftp://ftp.openssl.org/source/openssl-1.0.1i.tar.gz is a collection of shit
<arup_r> pontiki: didn't get you..
<wasamasa> ^ a shitty implementation
<shevy> they don't even use GNU autoconfigure but have their own configure script that must be invoked via ./config and has both some -- options and some - or no - options
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<wasamasa> it's a shitty implementation, yes
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<arup_r> pontiki: Woww.. Any more refactoring..?
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<hendricius> any ruby experts out there? a few people reported thread issues with the http class: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25803089/is-ruby-2-1-2-timeout-still-not-thread-safe
<pontiki> arup_r: i'd extract the months calculation into a separate method
<hendricius> the problem is that the http library freezes and gets stuck
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<arup_r> pontiki: could you please add in the updated Gist ?
<siwica> When making the call "abc = FooModule::FooClass(parameters)". Is that equivalent to calling "FooModule::FooClass.new(parameters)"?
<pontiki> no
<pontiki> jesus
<pontiki> do your own work
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<siwica> *calling "abc = ..."
<arup_r> pontiki: months = (start_date.to_date..end_date.to_date).map{ |m| m.strftime('%Y%m') }.uniq.map{ |m| "#{Date::MONTHNAMES[ Date.strptime(m, '%Y%m').month ]}, #{Date.strptime(m, '%Y%m').year}" }.uniq I did too many repetation.. I feel too
<siwica> pontiki: you mean me?
<pontiki> no, i meant arup_r
<arup_r> siwica: no it was to me...
<arup_r> :-(
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<Hanmac> siwica: "FooClass()" is not even near equal to "FooClass.new()" ... and "FooClass.()" is even more different too
<pontiki> arup_r: if your start and end dates are billions of years apart, i doubt you'd even notice a change in performance
<arup_r> humm
<pontiki> arup_r: extracting that calculation into it's own method means you can memoize it if needs be
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<siwica> Hanmac: that's what I thought. But which method does "FooClass()" call?
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<Hanmac> no one ... it does missing to it calls "method_missing"
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<Hanmac> but if you are interested "FooClass.()" is a special short form for "FooClass.call()"
<siwica> Hanmac: In my case I am trying to figure out what "doc = Nokogiri::XML(file)" is doing
<Hanmac> XML() is a method defined as singleton method at the module Nokogiri
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<pontiki> isn't it neat when you use real names?
<pontiki> you get useful answers
<siwica> Hanmac: ah ok. So you can define module methods?
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<Hanmac> yeah, why not?
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<siwica> Hanmac: I thought a module is just something to give a bunch of classes a shared namespace
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<siwica> Hanmac: So how do I know XML() is a singleton method?
<Hanmac> its eigher in that case a singleton method or a method defined with module function ... in both cases ... it does to care because the result is the same
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<pontiki> to learn how something is implemented, you could just read the code
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<shevy> siwica you can use a class for a shared namespace as well
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<shevy> >> class Foo; class Bar; end; end; Foo::Bar.new
<eval-in____> shevy => #<Foo::Bar:0x4084dba0> (https://eval.in/192135)
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<Hanmac> beware i am playing with "net/imap" ! ;P
* pontiki changes her gmail password yet *again*
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<shevy> pontiki what will the new password be?
<pontiki> shevy
<shevy> \o/
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<Hanmac> the password is his name in the language of the forest ;P
<siwica> shevy: but I guess that would be allow to create objects of type Foo which is nothing you want from a shared namespace
<shevy> you could also create class methods
<shevy> >> class Foo; class Bar; def self.test; puts 'yo man'; end; end; end; Foo::Bar.test
<eval-in____> shevy => yo man ... (https://eval.in/192136)
<shevy> so we did not even use .new here
<Hanmac> hm you could also create class methods in the singleton class of a class ;P
<Hanmac> but that would be bad style
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<shevy> siwica yeah, when you use a class, you get the extra .new
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<Hanmac> "its a module - no! is a object - no! ITs the SUPERCLASS!" :p
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<siwica> You are irritating me :P
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<siwica> Ok, one other question: What is the syntax to only allow to create one object of a class (singleton) in ruby?
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<tobiasvl> siwica: are you referring to class << self
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<Hanmac> siwica: with that www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.1.2/libdoc/singleton/rdoc/index.html you can make a class so only one instance of that class can be created
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<siwica> tobiasvl: I don't know?! I want an object in my project that stores data for me. And there should only be one of that object.
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<siwica> Hanmac: Is that something that just got added to ruby recently?
<Hanmac> hm no that should be very old
<canton7> that's been around for yonks
<tobiasvl> siwica: okay, your questions sounded like you had it on the tip of your tongue. if you're specifically looking to do it syntactically, class << self. if not, use the module Hanmac linked to
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<siwica> Ok, I will take a look at it
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<arup_r> How can I refactor this code ? https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/a186172b77616a592b2c
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<jhass> arup_r: the blank check is redundant, the ifs already ensure both attributes are blank at this point
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<jhass> and I would extract the role checking into the user model so it becomes something like current_user.is?(:company_admin)
<jhass> other than that lgtm
<arup_r> It is not possible jhass
<arup_r> I just show you the mnethod.
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<arup_r> It is being used by lots of controller action..
<jhass> I'm sorry?
<arup_r> blank? check is needed..
<jhass> no
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<jhass> if either value is present? (!= blank?) the elsif can't be reached since one of the previous branches kick in
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<jhass> arup_r: let's not hop channels like that, I responded here
<arup_r> jhass: see now,, the actual one.. https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/4faa24aa87f0329d4ee2
<arup_r> mistake
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<jhass> what I said is still true
<arup_r> And see how many intermediate class is responsivble
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<arup_r> Why blank check is not needed..
<arup_r> ?
<siwica> I am having very strange behavious in my code:
<siwica> I have a class "fooA.rb" that contains a class "fooA" and requires certain files. Within a file "fooB" I am trying to instantiate an object of "fooA" (fooA.rb is required). However, I am getting an error that the requirements that fooA.rb make fail. Why is that?
<dumdedum> I wouldn't use [].all blank for only two params, harder to read
<arup_r> Ok got it..
<arup_r> :-)
<flughafen> ? I have a capybara/cucumber test suite, and when I run rake, it fails to find net-ssh, but it's installed, and when I use irb and require 'net/ssh' it works
<flughafen> could cause it to fail?\
<jhass> siwica: Please put your code on https://gist.github.com
<jhass> flughafen: bundler?
<arup_r> jhass: any more suggestion ? https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/a186172b77616a592b2c
<jhass> flughafen: does bundle show net-ssh say something?
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<jhass> arup_r: yes, scroll back up
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<flughafen> jhass: no. but everything is managed with rps.
<arup_r> jhass: before modell.. there is one more intermediate class for other stuffs.. So I need to handle correct object from the controller to the interactor classes
<flughafen> rpms*
<jhass> arup_r: whatever current_user is, I'd let it handle role checking
<arup_r> Humm.. Our businees is different..
<arup_r> :-)
<jhass> arup_r: that is the verification logic, currently it's a == but who knows where it goes from there
<siwica> jhass: I guess a gist wont help in my case
<jhass> flughafen: are you sure bundler isn't loaded? no Gemfile in the current or parent directory?
<siwica> jhass: I just did some research and it seems that two different ruby versions I have installed may cause the problem
<jhass> siwica: that sounds unlikely but then you never shared your actual error message so we can only guess
<siwica> jhass: I have one installed via rvm and kept "/usr/bin/ruby"
<jhass> yes, that's quite normal
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<siwica> jhass: when I create an object of "fooA" inside the "fooA.rb" file (outside the class "fooA"), everything works fine. When -in a different file "fooB.rb"- I require "fooA.rb" and then call "fooA.new" I get the Error: "rescue in require_all': no such file to load -- features (LoadError)" with features being a directory required in "fooA.rb".
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<shevy> what is require_all
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<shevy> that is non standard
<shevy> Dir['/your/dir/'*.rb'].each {|file| require file }
<jhass> siwica: see, you're messing it all up in trying to be abstract. Ruby has no require_all. a class can't be called fooA and so on
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<jhass> gist your actual code with your actual (copied, not typed) error messages including tracebacks and we may be able to help you
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<balance> hi, what's the difference: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/303c32b2c64f262e3f7f and is it correct what I wrote?
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<jhass> siwica: tip for the future: you can add multiple files to a single gist ;)
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<jhass> siwica: so what's the error you get (including traceback)
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<tobiasvl> siwica: what ruby version are you running? you probably need to use require_relative in storage.rb
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<siwica> jhass: ok :)
<jhass> siwica: so /home/username/project/src/features exists and contains .rb files?
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<siwica> tobiasvl: ruby 2.1.2p95 (2014-05-08 revision 45877) [x86_64-linux]
<siwica>
<siwica> tobiasvl: require_relative doesnt change anything
<siwica> jhass: yes
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<siwica> jhass: When appending "storage = SessionStorage.new()" at the end of "session_storage.rb" everything works
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<tobiasvl> siwica: no, you posted your error after I said that, and I see now that your error isn't related to that require
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<windblown> greetings
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<siwica> tobiasvl: ok, sorry
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<jhass> siwica: ah, so you do cd tryout; ruby storage.rb ?
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<windblown> I have a ruby gem I want to use it. Does the 'require' for the gem go in the controller for the model I wish to use the gem?
<shevy> sounds like rails
<jhass> siwica: require_all seems to be relative to the current pwd, what you're experiencing is the reason why ruby 1.9 and later removed . from the load path
<jhass> siwica: how many files do you have in features?
<shevy> there is no require for a gem windblown. require 'foobar' is almost always require 'foobar.rb'. as for when to use require, obviously you need to use it if your own code wants to make use of that code
<siwica> jhass: 11
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<jhass> how often do you (plan to) add or remove one?
<windblown> thanks, I will try the #ruby_on_rails irc
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<tobiasvl> it's #rubyonrails
<shevy> hehe
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<dideler_> which do you prefer? JSON.parse(foo) or JSON[foo]
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<shevy> dunno
<shevy> .parse is more explicit
<siwica> jhass: not so often I guess
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<shevy> but if you don't care about it and just need the return value, [] is always nicer
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<shevy> I wrote stuff like RemoveHtml[]
<shevy> because I can not be bothered to want to remember how to remove the html exactly
<shevy> after 4 weeks of not using it I forgot how to use it anyway
<siwica> jhass: you mean require_relative requires the files relative to storage.rb although it sits in session_storage.rb?
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<jhass> siwica: I would consider explicitly listing them, also maybe make a nicer project structure.like, think of a name for your project and put everything in a module with that name, then place all files in a lib/ directory, lib/my_project.rb, lib/my_project/session_storage.rb, lib/my_project/features/a.rb and so on.
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<jhass> siwica: then you can easily setup the load path, for example with a simple ruby -Ipath/to/lib or in code with $LOAD_PATH.unshift File.expand_path('path/to/lib', __dir__)
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<jhass> siwica: and use require's relative to the load path: require 'my_project/session_storage', require 'my_project/features/a' and so on
<siwica> jhass: It seems I am wasting so much time with requirement issues, can't I just require every file within every file of my project?
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<jhass> understanding rubys load system is worth the effort ;)
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<siwica> jhass: do you have a good reading on that?
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<jhass> not really, beyond that's how gems are usually structured
<Hanmac> jhass i prefer not to touch the load path itself ... require_relative is much more nicer ...
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<shevy> require_relative isn't required for gem-layouts into SITE_DIR installs
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<shevy> siwica one of the simplest rule that works most of the time is to require stuff only where it is needed in the specific .rb file
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<shevy> things only get annoying when there are circular requires
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<siwica> jhass: so far have have put everything in src/, all files in features/ are in a Features module
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<shevy> Hanmac is that a wizard pig?
<siwica> shevy: yes, but I wanted to avoid having to include 5 files individually
<Hanmac> workmad3: i think you know what that image means, ne?
<shevy> siwica you mean require not include right? :)
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<Hanmac> the problem for a possible require_all would be that you cant trust the file order of Dir[], thats why my files does have require_relative between each other in that case
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<siwica> shevy: yes
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<gungs> Hi all
<shevy> Hanmac it's just an array, you can .sort on it
<shevy> perhaps you make wrong directory layouts :>
<Hanmac> shevy yes i wanted to say that is it is not sorted by default so you can trust that it returns in a order you want
<siwica> When requiring each file individually I am worried to forget one and experiencing problems at runtime
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<shevy> how can you forget one
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<shevy> in bash:
<shevy> ls -1 *.rb
<shevy> copy paste that into your editor
<gungs> I am new to ruby on rails,is it possible to list all files along with their respective size which get updated...which function to use?
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<wasamasa> #RubyOnRails
<balance> what happens I do define_method("self.foo")?
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<shevy> hmm
<j416> balance: why don't you try it and see™
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<shevy> a method can not have . I think
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<shevy> I was wrong
<shevy> that sucks
<j416> it's not part of the method name
<shevy> >> define_method("self.foo") { puts 'HI' }; self.send 'self.foo'
<eval-in____> shevy => HI ... (https://eval.in/192160)
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<balance> j416 sure, currently can't, just learning some "theory". sry
<shevy> sure enough it is
<crome> >> :'asd.qwe'
<eval-in____> crome => :"asd.qwe" (https://eval.in/192161)
<crome> hm
<j416> shevy: so it seem
<j416> whoa.
<shevy> yeah, a symbol can have a .
<shevy> I forgot that
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<shevy> actually, I don't think I have seen a symbol with a . before
<shevy> you never stop learning!
<balance> shevy, thanks
<j416> shevy: interesting
* Hanmac makes a "That more you know!" sound
<crome> let's write a book about all the things you can do but you should never do in ruby
<shevy> I also never found a guy who wants to call a method 'self.foo'
<j416> symbol can be anything as long as you quote/escape properly
<j416> afaik
<j416> shevy: w
<Hanmac> crome: let me quess, you want me as cover image? ;P
<shevy> this balance guy is suspicious :)
<j416> bah
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<j416> s/w/lol/
<shevy> w?
<shevy> hmm
<shevy> ...
<shevy> w is right next to lol on my keyboard
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<shevy> I have a cat approved keyboard
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<balance> shevy I though maybe ruby inteprets self.foo as a instance method whereas define_method itself creates an instance method, so I wondered what happens if my assumption was right. (Which actually was stupid :P) anyway thanks
<shevy> I think technically def and define_method should work the same
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<shevy> though obviously you can define more methods via define_method than via def
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> is there any way you can use def to define a method that has a ' ' as part of its name?
<shevy> (method name)
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<shevy> where are the eval gurus
<crome> I would hurt people who iterate over some list and call defined_method with each
<PapaSierra> hi there, i don't regularly use ruby, however many tools that i use require it. right now i'm trying to run compass. i'm on mac osx. my ruby version is 2.1.2p95, gem version is 2.4.1. i installed compass like this: "gem install compass". it installed fine. then i run it and it says "Could not find i18n-0.6.9 in any of the sources (Bundler::GemNotFound)"
<crome> I have even read articles that say it's a good and "maintainable" solution
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<shevy> crome haha
<shevy> yeah... the meta wizards
<shevy> they are my enemies
<shevy> PapaSierra what is i18n?
<balance> shevy yeah but still, self is see as part of the method name wheras I though define_method might actually intepret the self as just self :P anyway, wasn't a good question.
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<shevy> balance I don't think self is part of the method name, it just defines where the method itself resides right? either on the instance level of the object or of the class itself
<PapaSierra> shevy: no idea. i'm just trying to run "compass compile" but it that's the error message.
<balance> shevy yeah
<shevy> PapaSierra ok but you get an error from bundler here, not compass, right?
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<shevy> so probably compass tries to invoke bundler
<shevy> and bundler then can not find the gem i18n
<PapaSierra> shevy: that looks like a reasonable assessment. i'm too novice to make that conclusion myself though
<shevy> I don't use bundler btw, you can install i18n via gem install i18n
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<shevy> I wouldn't be surprised if it still fails given bundlers quality :D
<shevy> (after gem installation that is)
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<PapaSierra> shevy: successfully installed "i18n-0.6.11.gem" but still the exact same error message
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<shevy> yeah
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<PapaSierra> shevy: (notice slightly different version numbers, is that an issue?)
<shevy> it's why I happily avoid bundler \o/
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<shevy> that could be
<shevy> probably he specified the 0.6.9 version in the gemfile
<shevy> you should be able to provide a version to i18n
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<shevy> let's see
<shevy> gem install i18 --version=0.6.9
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<PapaSierra> shevy: sure, i'm not deliberately using bundler. i'm just on a plain old mac trying to install and run plain old compass. if it's using bundler, well then that's nothing really to do with my decision.
<shevy> ohhh
<shevy> that version does not exist
<shevy> ERROR: Could not find a valid gem 'i18' (= 0.6.9) in any repository
<shevy> oops
<shevy> I forgot a n
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<shevy> gem install i18n --version=0.6.9
<PapaSierra> trying that now...
<shevy> PapaSierra let me look up compass dependencies
<siwica> jhass: Hanmac: shevy: Just wanted to thank you for your help. I got rid of "require_all" and replaced it with the acccording "require_relatives". It does work now but I guess I will have some reading to do on how ruby requirements work.
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<PapaSierra> ok great, that worked. next up: "Could not find multi_json-1.9.2 in any of the sources" lol
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<shevy> no direct deps on bundler there
<shevy> perhaps one dependency requires it
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<shevy> bin/compass:if defined?(Bundler)
<shevy> bin/compass: require 'bundler/shared_helpers'
<shevy> PapaSierra so the compass file itself queries whether you have Bundler available
<shevy> Rakefile: require 'bundler/setup'
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<shevy> gem install multi_json
<shevy> Fetching: multi_json-1.10.1.gem (100%)
<shevy> you are using some rather outdated stuff there man
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<nhjk> I'm trying to monkeypatch a gem, but only within my project's namespace. How can I do this? I thought requiring the gem inside my project's module would do the trick but it didn't http://pastebin.com/qq0tad8w
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<shevy> nhjk the namespace is absolute
<shevy> I think you can not move it into another namespace
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<gungs> I am new to ruby on rails,is it possible to list all files along with their respective size which get updated...which function to use?
<PapaSierra> shevy: i don't know what you mean by "you are using some rather outdated stuff". again, i just followed the installation instructions on the compass website. sorry for being a ruby noob, but i didn't choose to use outdated stuff. i'm not sure what's the right way to install this stuff
<shevy> or perhaps there is a way... hmm
<shevy> PapaSierra well. <PapaSierra> shevy: successfully installed "i18n-0.6.11.gem"
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<shevy> but your code there wants version i18n-0.6.9
<shevy> "Could not find multi_json-1.9.2" but when I install multi_json it fetches multi_json-1.10.1.gem
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<shevy> that's what I meant with outdated stuff
<shevy> the idea behind bundler was to allow installation of specific versions
<PapaSierra> ok, it's not *my* code, it's the alpha pre release version of compass. i.e. "gem install compass --pre". i understand what you mean though. i.e. compass is requiring some old stuff.
<shevy> and ensure that they work
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<shevy> the compass guys should really provide instructions that work for people
<PapaSierra> ok, so i figure i'm not actually using bunder, since i don't have a gemfile and i'm just installing gems manually
<shevy> but compass has bundler!
<shevy> <shevy> bin/compass:if defined?(Bundler)
<shevy> or at least it checks for it
<shevy> you could probably remove that line though hahaha :D
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<PapaSierra> hm... i'm confused. i just followed steps 1 and 2 on this page: http://compass-style.org/install/
<shevy> yeah, that instruction did not work for yous
<shevy> *you
<shevy> tell them that their instructions failed
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<PapaSierra> well first i'm trying to eliminate the fact that i'm doing something obviously wrong or stupid
<shevy> they are even on github I think: https://github.com/Compass/compass
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<shevy> ok so what did you do different?
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<shevy> actually the only command that you would have required was: "gem install compass --pre"
<Tomasso> im using mechanize, that gtem for browser automation, and I get "error handling content-encoding gzip: buffer error" is there any http header or something that should be set on that?
<shevy> PapaSierra it might be that that check for bundler triggered problems for you
<PapaSierra> right, that's what i did. (well, first i tried steps 1 and 2) when that didn't work i tried the --pre thing
<shevy> let me try via "gem install compass --pre" myself. I dont have bundler installed
<shevy> wow, it installs a lot of stuff...
<PapaSierra> sure, thanks
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<shevy> all works fine
<shevy> the power of not using bundler :>
<PapaSierra> lol
<shevy> you could file an issue request at https://github.com/Compass/compass/issues "You guys have a bundler dependency which messes up crap."
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<PapaSierra> again, i'm not *trying to use bundler*. i'm a noob who dared to turn on his mac and follow instructions lol
<shevy> well, I guess you must have actually run "compass" somewhere
<shevy> in a project
<shevy> right?
<shevy> so then it must be the fault of that project actually
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<shevy> I don't understand why bundler wants to fetch dependencies when you say you don't have a Gemfile
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<shevy> compass itself has no direct dependency on bundler, only bin/compass has that check on whether Bundler is available (dunno why it has that check though)
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<PapaSierra> no my production code is entirely php, no ruby whatsoever. however, surrounding the project there is plenty of ruby tooling such as chef/vagrant/compass/capistrano/etc. therefore, while i know zero about ruby, i just need to have a basic working environment in which these tools can be run successfully. to that end i've had to fiddle with things like rvm in the past.
<shevy> aha
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<PapaSierra> however, that gave me a lot of issues and so i'm back to using the system's ruby. but i think i upgrade it somehow. maybe i broke something?
<skullz> How can I convert an array/hash to xml in ruby?
<shevy> PapaSierra dunno if you broke something, but it is usually best to rely on just one ruby
<sarink> a || b && c == a || (b && c) right?
<shevy> PapaSierra the best would be if you could avoid Bundler and just use gem itself
<PapaSierra> i've had compass working fine before, but since telling rvm to go back to the system ruby compass is now "uninstalled" so i followed those steps, but now the error messages.
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<PapaSierra> shevy: great, how do i "avoid bundler"?
<shevy> gem install itself manages dependencies too
<tobiasvl> sarink: right. but feel free to just use the parentheses for clarity
<shevy> you can also specify which versions to use too
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<shevy> I don't know what your real requirements are. you listed (1) chef (2) vagrant (3) compass (4) capistrano so far, there are probably lots more gems in there too
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<Guest38228> skullz : you can use to_xml method
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<shevy> PapaSierra is your base system based on debian?
<Guest38228> skullz: however underscores will be converted to dashes
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<sarink> tobiasvl: i'm trying to rewrite this with parens if (a || b && c == false) bc it's sort of a mindfuck for me but i don't wanna mess it up
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<tobiasvl> sarink: the order of precedence is == && ||
<skullz> Guest38228: I tried using it, but it says "NoMethodError - undefined method `to_xml' for #<Hash:0x000000013fef98>:"
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<PapaSierra> shevy: well, those requirements are pretty much all. i may have forgotten to mention one or two. however, they appear to be working fine. i just don't know how to get compass to run is all. i'm not directly invoking bundler. if compass is doing that, then i'm not sure how to make it stop, or why.
<sarink> so is that ... if (a || (b && (c == false) ) )
<shevy> PapaSierra I showed you my output above, compass is running fine for me
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<shevy> PapaSierra well you could uninstall bundler
<tobiasvl> sarink: yes
<Guest38228> skullz: it is in active support gem you have to install and require that gem, are you using plain ruby or rails
<shevy> gem uninstall bundler
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<shevy> and gem install bundler to reinstall again
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<sarink> tobiasvl: thanks
<skullz> Guest38228: I see, just using ruby + sinatra
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<PapaSierra> shevy: interestingly... http://www.hastebin.com/raw/igacitafok
<shevy> gem uninstall -i /Users/PapaSierra/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.1.2@global bundler
<shevy> ok
<shevy> so in your home dir .rvm bundler is available
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<shevy> as I said above, you should really decide on what ruby to use and get rid of all others
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<balance> how is using instance_eval(&block) if block_given? within the init method better than using yield block?
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<shevy> I wouldn't know
<shevy> though I think you can do something with instance_eval
<shevy> you pass the block towards somewhere else right?
<PapaSierra> shevy: awesome, i got rid of bundler and compass now works just fine
<shevy> PapaSierra hahaha
<shevy> \o/
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<PapaSierra> i'm trying to understand though how i'm going to figure out "which ruby" i want and how to set that up properly so that chef/vagrant/etc still work
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<workmad3> PapaSierra: as long as you use the omnibus package to install chef-client, that's not really a problem with chef
<workmad3> PapaSierra: the omnibus package comes with an embedded version of everything chef needs to run, and hard-codes the #! paths and other stuff in the relevant libraries so it works
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<PapaSierra> workmad3: ok, yes i am doing that
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<workmad3> PapaSierra: it's kinda the point of using omnibus ;)
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<PapaSierra> workmad3: yup, so that's ok then. i guess it's the other tools that i don't want to break. (in the scroll back i did mention that i actually know very little about ruby and how's its environment is laid out, i use it because i have to. i'd like to understand it but i'm not there yet)
<workmad3> PapaSierra: ah, I don't have the scrollback... I only just rejoined after lunch ;)
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<Linell> Quick dumb question. If I've got a method like this and bar3 gets passed 'nil' will bar3==1 or bar3==nil? https://gist.github.com/Linell/17f64d96ce4a74e1e848
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<workmad3> Linell: nil
<workmad3> Linell: explicitly passing an arg overrides the default
<Linell> workmad3: Awesome, thank you.
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<sdegutis> Is it a terrible idea to nam a scriptable GUI automation app "Delegate.app"?
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<shevy> sdegutis don't think so. but I would namespace it still
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<dideler> is there a difference between h = Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = []; }
<dideler> oops, wrong thing in my clipboard
<dideler> i mean: h[:foo] << 1 and h[:foo] <<= 1
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<dideler> << vs <<=
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<dideler> just came across <<= for the first time. it looks like it does the same thing but maybe an older syntax?
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<centrx> dideler, it's like += for +
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<Nilium> All that's saying is h[:foo] = h[:foo] << 1
<Nilium> Standard ____-assignment
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<dideler> i see, thanks
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<Hanmac> hey! Nilium i think <<= might be a bit different than i thought ...
<Hanmac> >> o = ""; o <<= 123
<eval-in____> Hanmac => "{" (https://eval.in/192250)
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<Nilium> Congrats, you discovered documented behavior.
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<shevy> but he uses a =
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<Nilium> What is <<=?
<Nilium> I explained this like 5 minutes ago.
<shevy> ok lemme try to find the = on the screenshot
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<Nilium> <<= is << with an =. It assigns the result of << to the thing you applied it to.
<tangorri> hi
<Nilium> str << integer returns the receiver.
<centrx> << is bitshift operator
<centrx> hijacked by evil Array for append
<Nilium> And string.
<workmad3> Nilium: not quite
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<tangorri> I'm getting trouble with eventmachine, I'd like to install it on windows but I git trying to compile 'old' version with win32 bug ... how can I force gem to get the last commited version please ?
<workmad3> oh wait sorry... I forget what << returns :)
<Nilium> workmad3: I posted a screenshot of the docs ಠ_ಠ
<Nilium> You don't get to argue with me about it.
<workmad3> Nilium: I forgot that << tends to return 'self' to make it chainable
<centrx> tangorri, with bundler you can do: gem 'rails', github: 'rails/rails'
<workmad3> Nilium: so I was looking at 'a = ""; a <<= 123' and thinking 'but a still ends up pointing to the manipulated string... so it's not assigning'
<Nilium> It tends to be evil because people can't resist using a bit-shift operator for concatenation
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<workmad3> Nilium: blame C++ :P
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<tangorri> centrx : same using bundler
<Nilium> You can't blame C++ it's a different language.
<tangorri> hmm maybe I forgot something ...
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<Nilium> *when it's
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<centrx> tangorri, try git: url_to.git
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<workmad3> Nilium: the behaviour of << is overridden for streams in C++ to push data onto them... afaik, ruby 'borrowed' that idea from C++
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<tangorri> centrx : git://github.com/eventmachine/eventmachine (at master).
<tangorri> Source does not contain any versions of 'dashing (>= 0) x64-mingw32'
<workmad3> Nilium: it's possible that the origin came from an earlier language though :)
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<tangorri> do I need to 32 version of ruby ?
<tangorri> to use
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<centrx> tangorri, First of all, some gems have C extensions that do not compile on Windows FYI
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<tangorri> hmmm
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<tangorri> oops
<tangorri> oops oops oops
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<tangorri> worked
<tangorri> :)
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<centrx> using 32-bit version something?
<tangorri> nope
<tangorri> 'eventmachine', :git => evenmachine_git_repo :)
<tangorri> I had 'dashing'
<tangorri> sorry
<centrx> ah, yes, sounds like two different things
<tangorri> :B
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<tangorri> can't I do the same thing (specify the source to git_repo) for gem (global install) ?
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<centrx> tangorri, I'm not sure, bundle may be necessary to handle git or non-gem forms
<centrx> tangorri, gem help install seems to only have an option for a remote source that is packaged as a gem
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<tangorri> I think I gonna leave ruby on windows :(
<centrx> tangorri, Wise idea
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<tangorri> centrx : wouldn't be cool if native extensions had a 'rubyruntime' version as well ?
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<tangorri> or there are fully native from the beginning ?
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<centrx> tangorri, The idea of native extensions is they are written in a fast medium-level language like C
<centrx> tangorri, so alternative Ruby runtime would be nice, but it would require the author writing these components twice, in both languages
<tangorri> I see, I tought it was ruby JIT or something
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<tangorri> hanks centrx
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<centrx> tangorri, You can use Java extensions in JRuby
<centrx> tangorri, which are presumably more cross-platform
<tangorri> so eventmachine need to update their gem at the end right ?
<headius> tangorri: many folks find jruby more reliable on Windows
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<headius> we have exts but they don't have to compile anywhere
<headius> what are you using EM for?
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<tangorri> headius: , centrx I'm just looking for some code to adapt it for python (not my fault) & angularjs
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<headius> ahhh I see
<headius> EM used to work on JRuby, but I'm not sure if it still does
<Nilium> Folks, judgment question: you've just thrown up your breakfast, do go to work or stay home because you're pretty sure there's more where that came from?
<Nilium> *do you
<tangorri> headius : I allready installed EM on windows many times, for rails i.e.
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<centrx> tangorri, Basically, Ruby and Windows are not great together
<headius> Nilium: gut it out until you get sick again
<headius> once is a bad meal...twice is a sickness
<tangorri> centrx : I knew that yes
<centrx> tangorri, I would add that Windows is not great for any kind development except C#/.NET
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<headius> I would add that Windows is not great
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<centrx> yes
<tangorri> centrx : add adobe cs etc :)
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<centrx> I would add that subtract Windows
<Nilium> In that case, it's a sickness.
<headius> Nilium: go home
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<headius> or just put a puke bucket next to your desk and wait for your coworkers to ask you to go home
<Nilium> I haven't left for work yet. All I know is my head hurts and food isn't working.
<centrx> tangorri, Get a Mac for graphics development, and Mac OS X is good for Ruby and other Unix dev too
<oddmunds> Nilium: i'd stay home
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<tangorri> no mac in this compagny
<headius> stay home and watch Trailer Park Boys season 8
<tangorri> I use mac for freelance
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<Nilium> The worst part is I've only had this happen once before and if it happens again, my throat is going to be lined with ulcers and I'm going to be nearly dead for about a week
<centrx> Nilium, If you do not like your boss, go to work and throw up on him
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<Nilium> 'Cause it turns out having your esophagus covered in ulcers makes eating difficult
<headius> eesh
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<headius> well...at least a lot more interesting :-)
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<Nilium> Interesting if you like the idea of living off mostly water
<headius> wow, almost 1000 people in here
<Nilium> It's a good way to lose weight though
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<tangorri> just to be sure : eventmachine having solve the issue for win32, commit is on repo etc, they need to update gem file or somehting ?
<headius> Lose weight fast with this one weird trick
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<Nilium> This one weird trick humans hate him for
<tangorri> maybe I could remove tottally EM for possible cache ... dunno
<dbugger> Hello guys. Can someone tell me why I am having errors installing Berkshelf? http://pastebin.com/h3GTg2bd
<headius> tangorri: if they have a fix you could always package the gem yourself
<headius> until they get a release out
<tangorri> I see
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<Nilium> Right, I'm going to write an email to my boss and then either a) climb in bed with a bucket or b) make a bed next to the toilet.
<centrx> dbugger, directory permissions or something: configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
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<centrx> dbugger, See `config.log' for more details
<dbugger> centrx: as you see, I was using "sudo", so it cant be a permission thing
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<centrx> dbugger, Some kind of write error
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<dbugger> Yeah, im just wondering what to do now to install it :(
<centrx> dbugger, or broken C++ compiler
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<centrx> dbugger, checking whether the C++ compiler works... no
<centrx> checking for g++... no
<dbugger> what? sorry? Im not even sure how to do that
<sonOfRa> that sounds morelike there isn't even a c++ compiler
<centrx> apt-get install ruby-dev build-essential
<dbugger> Im working on a fresh vagrant box with Ubuntu
<centrx> throw in an apt-get install g++ for good measure
<centrx> then install one of those games
<centrx> to play while you wait
<dbugger> :D
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<shevy> so annoying that they think you don't want to compile code
<dbugger> mmmm, apparently build-essentials was it
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<dbugger> thank you guys
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<hfp_work> Hey, did anybody get a Ruby environment setup in Docker? I installed ruby-2.1.2 on a Debian Wheezy with ruby-install and I'm very surprised the image size is 800MB. I'd like to compare notes :)
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<lsone> hfp_work: I am working on a CoreOS + Docker + Rails 4 setup today, crossing my fingers that it is a solid/efficient setup.
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<ericwood> throw in JRuby and you'll have the trifecta
<lsone> ericwood: Ah yes, of course :)
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<explodes> Hey. Is this the room for rails?
<Sou|cutter> #ror
<jhass> explodes: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ help
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<dbugger> Hey guys. I have "verbose: true" in .gemrc, I have confirmed it works with "gem env", and yet, when I do something like "sudo gem install knife-solo" I get a different input than when I do "sudo gem install knife-solo --verbose". Why is that??
<orolo> i need to test if the db is returning a specific string for a value that is not allowed to be accessed. so, instead of home phone number, the db will return 'xxx'. i'd like to do an 'after' filter for methods and "scrub" their instance variables prior to calling the view (in rails). how best to access those instance variables for the method?
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<jhass> orolo: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ help
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<orolo> jhass, thanks. i thought this was a ruby question; my apologies
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<hfp_work> lsone: Why is Jruby better than the MRI?
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<lsone> hfp_work: I can't give you an answer that I am comfortable standing behind, to be honest. I have been using it for a really long time, as well as some Java packages that require it on servers, so it is just what I use.
<lsone> I have seen tests that go both ways on which is faster, so I can't really vouch for that angle either.
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<headius> hfp_work: (jruby guy here) JRuby *should* be faster than MRI in almost every way...I consider it a bug if it is not
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<headius> plus parallel threads, way better GC, whole JVM library ecosystem to pick from
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<hfp_work> headius: So JRuby vs MRI changes what glues is used between Ruby and the kernel, is hat right?
<hfp_work> glue*
<headius> yeah pretty much...we don't implement GC, native JIT, etc, and defer to the JVM for that
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<headius> other than the fact that we co-opt the JVM, JRuby's just a Ruby impl
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<hfp_work> headius: Yeah it's a bit of a foreign concept for me until now, I feel I should get more familiar
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<themanwithnoface> hello
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<jhass> hi
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<shevy> dependencies dependencies dependencies
<shevy> code code code
<nobitanobi> yupyupyup
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<jwitko> Hi, I am having a huge issue attempting to install the atomic gem locally on my CentOS 6.5 box using ruby 2.1.1
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<jwitko> ERROR: Error installing vendor/cache/atomic-1.1.16.gem:
<jwitko> ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.
<jwitko> it fails looking for OSAtomic.h
<jwitko> checking for libkern/OSAtomic.h... *** extconf.rb failed ***
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<eam> jwitko: uh, OSAtomic.h is an OSX thing
<jwitko> lol wtf
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<jwitko> so why is it looking for it on my CentOS 6.5 box?
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<apeiros> because you're building it from your cache and might have an os specific version there.
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<hahaguys> hey guys. im trying to quickly learn the ruby language features and syntax. Can you recommend a book similar to K&R Ansi C or like Javascript the good parts, for ruby?
<eam> it appears that it requires the header regardless of platform, appears to be a bug to me
<eam> extconf.rb has an unconditional have_header "libkern/OSAtomic.h"
<eam> in the actual C code it's appropriately ifdef'd
<eam> jwitko: build from source, delete the have_header, I bet it'll work
<atmosx> anyones runs on FreeBSD here? (asked again earlier no replies)
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<eam> wait, does have_header actually require the header?
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<jwitko> earn: i have no clue :(
<eam> # Returns whether or not the given +header+ file can be found on your system.
<eam> # If found, a macro is passed as a preprocessor constant to the compiler
<eam> # using the header file name, in uppercase, prepended with +HAVE_+.
<eam> so that's not a problem
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<jwitko> so it also passes this error
<jwitko> You have to install development tools first.
<eam> oooh
<jwitko> but i'
<eam> jwitko: ok this is more clear, it's running gcc
<eam> what happens when you run "gcc" on the command line
<jwitko> command not found :)
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<shevy> jwitko install gcc
<jwitko> it worked now!
<jwitko> thank you so much!
<eam> tests for any header would've failed
<eam> TIL something new about mkmf
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<jwitko> earn
<jwitko> got another one for you :)
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<shevy> any of you has a script that gives back an array of all dependencies of a gem project?
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<eam> shevy: declared or actual?
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<shevy> actual
<eam> ruby's missing one of my favorite perl features which I use for this
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<eam> which is to put a lambda in $:
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<eam> which is called whenever a require() happens
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<shevy> "The latest stable version is 0.8.8.1."
<shevy> "2009-08-16 Hiki 0.8.8.1 released"
<shevy> this makes me sad :(
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<eam> outside the stock ruby documentation is there anything describing how to use the ruby command line args? blogs, etc?
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<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> I don't think there are that many who use the ruby commandline args
<shevy> I usually write a method in some .rb file and simply call that then
<shevy> I think one blog mentioned -rdebug or something...
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> stackoverflow overshadowed the old blogs
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<shevy> eam I remember 10 years ago everything was different
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<eam> I'm gonna write something
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<shevy> \o/
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<zwischenzug> hello....i have a question about some character encoding "weirdness"
<zwischenzug> why are lines 14 and 16 different?
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<jhass> zwischenzug: what's a.encoding and tx.encoding ?
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<zwischenzug> jhass, #<Encoding:UTF-8>, and #<Encoding:ASCII-8BIT> respectively
<zwischenzug> i guess that's the reason
<zwischenzug> why does this happen?
<jhass> yes, that's why
<jhass> a = "" creates a Encoding.default_internal encoded string
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<jhass> String#<< apparently converts
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<jhass> I don't see the creation of tx so I can't comment where that gets its encoding
<zwischenzug> tx = [utxo["transaction_hash"]].pack("H*")
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<shevy> cool
<jhass> okay, pack encodes to ascii-8bit
<shevy> so now I know why we have Encoding.default_internal
<jhass> or returns a ascii-8bit string rather
<jhass> which does make sense since it's just a byte array representation at this point
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<zwischenzug> why doesn't pack return a string of Encoding.default_internal?
<jhass> because my last sentence
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<zwischenzug> ok
<zwischenzug> so when binary data gets packed into a string, it's "encoding" is ascii-8bit
<jhass> yeah
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<jhass> you don't want accidental magic sequences for some encoding to mess up your data
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<jhass> though nowadays we have all those .byte.. methods it doesn't matter as much anymore I guess
<epitron> is there a way to eval a block in a binding? (instead of having to eval a string)
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<epitron> binding.eval("string") seems so inelegant
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<epitron> binding.eval { some code } looks a lot better to me...
<bricker`work> I wish `retry` took an argument for number of times to retry
<zwischenzug> thanks for clearing that up for me jhass ....much appreciated :)
<epitron> bricker`work: haha.. yeah, retry is probably mostly used for network code
<epitron> why not!
<epitron> you could always overload retry to do that
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<epitron> or rather, make a new retry method
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<epitron> that uses binding.of_caller and eval to make it work :)
<epitron> retry_n_times(2)
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<soheil> how do you rescue a method not found exception?
<jhass> soheil: rescue NoMethodError
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<soheil> nice
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<epitron> soheil: if you want to do duck typing tests, a shortcut is "object.respond_to? :method"
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<soheil> ok thanks
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<jhass> epitron: I don't think you can. Can't you pass self instead and instance_eval or do you want to access locals?
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<epitron> oh, i just wanted to write a method that lets you do this:
<epitron> def method
<epitron> ...
<epitron> end.alias(:other_name)
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<epitron> Symbol#alias
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<epitron> so i need to grab the binding of the caller, then eval some code in that scope
<epitron> (alias_method)
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<jhass> you could already do alias_method :other_name, def foo ... end :P
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<pipework> lololol :(
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<jhass> I suppose you could do binding.eval("self").define_method
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<pipework> ugh.
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<graft_> yo, is there an easier way to alter inspect's behavior?
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<Mon_Ouie> easier than what? alter it how?
<graft_> i get sick of copy/pasting some def inspect; "#<{self.class.name}:#{self.object_id} ... >"; end type nonsense
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<Mon_Ouie> No, unfortunately there are no builtin helpers to generate those parts
<pipework> I wish they'd use as_inspect.
<pipework> Kind of like how you can use as_json with serializers and such.
<graft_> dangit
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<apeiros> graft_: nothing stopping you from building such building blocks.
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<waxjar> put the method in a mixin, include SlimInspect or something and you're done
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<pipework> apeiros: Well, a hatred for monkeypatching all of ruby might stop you.
<pipework> Probably not, but it might.
<apeiros> pipework: monkey patching not necessary.
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<pipework> apeiros: How so?
<apeiros> def inspect; Awesomo.inspect(self); end
<pipework> Oh just for his objects? I guess.
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<apeiros> that's what his question was about, yes.
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<apeiros> at least I understood it that way
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<pipework> Yeah, I was just being rood and assuming you were also addressing my request as whale.
<apeiros> not following what you're saying
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<waxjar> i think it'd be nice if the default #inspect only printed the instance variables if $DEBUG is true. or $VERBOSE
<waxjar> or is that a dumb idea
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<epitron> jhass: hmmm! binding.self is a good idea
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<Phrogz_> `gem install foo.gem` is very slow when network is enabled, quite fast when I turn off my WiFi. Any thoughts on what it's trying to do, and how to work around it (without turning off WiFi)?
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<pipework> Phrogz_: Try ./foo.gem
<epitron> graft_: i've thought that should be a google summer of code project -- come up with a better way of pretty-printing objects and fix all the libraries in the ruby ecosystem :)
<dorei> Phrogz_: i'd run wireshark to see what's happening network-wise
<Phrogz_> pipework: Nice guess, no glory.
<pipework> Phrogz_: damn
<epitron> graft_: this is the kind of thing where someone just needs to come up with some kind of standard way of doing it
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<pipework> epitron: as_inspect would b nice.
<pipework> be*
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<epitron> pipework: as_inspect would be the helper for printing the object?
<epitron> it would be nice if the inspection helpers weren't purely text-focussed, so that they could be used to pretty print objects in HTML form as well
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<pipework> epitron: It'd be the thing you use to define your own inspect stuff.
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<Phrogz> Speaking of binding, here's a fun hack that works in 1.9: def assert(&block); code = yield; raise(code) unless eval(code,block.binding); end assert{ "some_local_variable" }
<epitron> pipework: would it be a DSL? :)
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<pipework> epitron: No, it'd be like as_json.
<Phrogz> dorei: Thanks for the suggestion, DLing WireShark now.
<epitron> Phrogz: oh yeah, someone made a whole library for testing that uses that trick
<pipework> Where you can do whatever you want in it, including using a DSL that yields self into it.
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<Phrogz> Yeah, this is for my DSL, and mostly so that I can see the code that failed instead of having to assert y==42, "Uh, y should equal 42, yo."
<Phrogz> Thanks for the link.
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<epitron> pipework: ahhh... i'm looking at as_json right now. i like the concept of specifying the fields, but it's kinda ugly...
<epitron> i guess a DSL could be ugly as well
<epitron> with nested hashes, at least you won't forget how to use it :)
<pipework> epitron: But at least the idea is pretty simple.
<Mon_Ouie> I used this: https://gist.github.com/d3c3478552f230bfeaf3 for pretty inspect
<epitron> and it satisfied the representation-independence, so as_inspect could do HTML or text
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<pipework> to_json would call as_json, which is the method you're allowed to override. Maybe you define a module or superclass that lets you pass a block into it, maybe not.
<pipework> epitron: Maybe have as_inspect take a symbol. object.inspect(:html)
<pipework> But it'd require a fun monkey patching to do, if you don't mind that kinda thing, unless you want it only for your objects and not for all objects.
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<epitron> Mon_Ouie: do i drop this into Object or something?
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<Mon_Ouie> I have it in a mixin and I use it in pretty_print, then pp object prints the list I specified
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<epitron> ah ok.. so it's pretty_print helper
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<epitron> pipework: that's a nice simple solution
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<epitron> pipework: it could also be require "pp/html" or "pp/text" or "pp/ansi" :)
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<epitron> this is really something ruby should've standardized about 10 years ago :)
<pipework> epitron: ikr
<pipework> At work, we monkeypatch anything that translates objects into representations to use as_#{format}
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<epitron> haha
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<pipework> We've talked about doing as_inspect and monkeypatching ruby.
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<epitron> this could just be one giant gem that supports every commonly used library out there
<epitron> require 'make_everything_pretty'
<epitron> monkeypatch away!
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<Phrogz_> So, whenever I `gem install foo.gem` a 2 second conversation happens with api.rubygems.org before the install finishes. Conversation takes place over TLSv2, so I can't see who's saying what.
<Phrogz_> I'm guessing usage tracking?
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<pipework> Phrogz: But you can modify the rubygems gem gem
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<pipework> I mean library
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<bricker`work> rubygemsgemgem
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<Phrogz> pipework: You mean bc it's FOSS I can go investigating the source code and figure out what it's doing, and modify it to not do that.
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<Scub> is there to do inline assignment based on a boolean return? ruby 2.0 <3
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<Phrogz> Scub: I don't understand your question.
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<Scub> x = "hello" if true else "goodbye"
<Scub> :D
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<Phrogz> Scub: "ternary operator" x = true ? "hello" : "goodbye"
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<Scub> <3 :)
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<pipework> Phrogz: quite.
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<marcanuy> I'm trying to output an object instance contents using Jekyll, tried
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<Phrogz> pipework: Clearly you've never tackled the beast that is rubygems source. ;)
<Phrogz> Interestingly api.rubygems.org does not show up in the source. But there is @api_uri ||= Gem::RemoteFetcher.fetcher.api_endpoint uri
<pipework> Phrogz: I mostly work on the rubygems website source.
<Phrogz> Good man! My apologies for possibly inferring that rubygems is intractable. :)
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<Phrogz> (Though there are 17k lines of code in 149 files.)
<marcanuy> I'm trying to ouput the content of an object instance in Jekyll with: "site.inspect" to print site config variable but it isn't working, any idea?
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<Phrogz> marcanuy: Please clarify what "isn't working" means.
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<marcanuy> Phrogz: I have {{ site.inspect }} in a page, when I load that page in the browser no information about the variable is printed
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<Phrogz> marcanuy: /join #jekyll
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<Phrogz> Sorry, that was a question not a command. I personally don't know jekyll.
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<marcanuy> Phrogz: ok but isn't inspect a ruby function?
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<Phrogz> marcanuy: Yes, inspect is. My guess then is that either a) site.inspect returns an empty string, or b) some error is occurring that is preventing you from debugging like this. Perhaps `site` is a local variable that hasn't been declared?
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<Phrogz> I'm assuming that #jekyll folks will be able to help you find an error in a log file, or a better way of finding the information you need or something.
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<marcanuy> Phrogz: I can access site variable contents, but not outputting all the information it contains, will ask in #jekyll thanks
<Phrogz> kk
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<Phrogz> FWIW the gems group/mailing list has correctly sussed that I have a dependency in my gem; doing `gem install foo.gem --no-dependencies` prevents the phoning home.
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<Phrogz> er, --ignore-dependencies
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<Lewix> hi
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<a___> Hi guys. I have a short method, with a rescue. I'd like to do: def method_name; statement 1; statement 2; rescue; error handling; end; # the def-rescue shortcut
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<frankS2> Hi, I'm trying to host an app with nginx, but the static content dont seem to get served, http://pastie.org/private/lostynvej16tyou0gma anyone see whats wrong?
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<a___> However, only statement 2 could raise the exception I'm trying to catch. Should I use a begin/end instead, or just accept the first statement (a simple assignment) inside the implicit begin?
<PigDude> Has anybody released a good book on Ruby 2 yet? ruby way is pretty outdated now
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<PigDude> 3ed of ruby way is in december
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<shevy> PigDude the pickaxe
<shevy> a___ why don't you use begin?
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<a___> shevy: I could, it just seems like an extra two lines of meaningless bloat - a begin and an end
<PigDude> shevy: thanks! i think that isn't as in-depth as ruby way, the toc looks like flanagan's book + stdlib api
<a___> It feels almost overly puristic to avoid using the def-rescue shortcut just because there's an assignment statement on the first line
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<PigDude> shevy: do you find yourself using that book as a reference?
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<nicklolsen> I'm trying to create a Sinatra based app that uses the github api using the Octokit gem. However, I'm also putting the app code on github so the source will be public. I'm afraid my username and password will be visible in the source code if I use it to authenticate myself to the github API. What is a good way around this?
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<freeone3000> nicklolsen: Github does oauth. Your lib should too.
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<nicklolsen> I'm not familiar with OAuth. If I get a token, then what is to stop others from seeing the token I use and using that for themselves?
<miah> octokit will gladly take your oauth token, or username / password from ENVIRONMENT variables
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<miah> no reason to store them in the code itself
<nicklolsen> I am using Heroku to host the app. How can I change the environment variables on Heroku?
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<nicklolsen> sweet, thank you
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<nicklolsen> I have to admit I didn't think it was possible. :D
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<freeone3000> nicklolsen: That first, your token isn't in source, and second, tokens are ephemeral and limited-permission, and third, granted interactively with the user.
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<jidar> does this look correct or horribly stupid? <% for @repo in @host.params['subscription_manager_repos'].gsub(',', ' ') -%>
<wmoxam> Is there a way to load yaml and force the use of strings for keys rather than symbols?
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<cirkit> i'm trying to get a web app setup for Snorby and used RVM to get ruby 1.9.2p330 (2014-08-07 revision 47094) [x86_64-linux]
<cirkit> for whatever reason it is failing with this Ruby exit error http://codepad.org/nXroNr8Y
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<benzrf> jidar: why are you using a for loop
<benzrf> thats not very Rubyish
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<benzrf> also that appears to be a string youre iterating over
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<eam> wmoxam: you can pretty easily traverse the structure and do the conversion
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<nicklolsen> I have an app uploaded to heroku that makes requests to the github api just fine. However, when I try to run the app locally for development I can an SSL error. How do you work around that?
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<jidar> benzrf: this is getting turned into shell executions, so it needs to loop a separate command per iteration. Should I use .split(',') then?
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<benzrf> yesss probably
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<nicklolsen> Ah, nevermind. I found some documentation on it.
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<jidar> benzrf: it's a erb template that deploys out kickstart scripts for rhel based boxes, just so you have some background.
<benzrf> ok...
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<yakko> Hello #ruby, as a fellow open-sorcerer can I ask for a RT because I just released version 2.0 of my Rails gem today? thanks in advance https://twitter.com/thejamespinto/status/510539195790917632
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<shevy> problem is - most rails folks are on #rubyonrails
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<yakko> shevy can you be helpful of open-source please?
<yakko> shevy: reason is- the best rails guys are much more often here :)
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<eam> what is rails anyway, I've heard people talking about it
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<wallerdev> rails is a ruby framework for building startups
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<shevy> yakko the best ruby guys are here yeah, but rails guys not many. workmad, apeiros... and I think about 3 or 4 more
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<yakko> apeiros_: you just got licked ;)
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<shevy> now now don't lick him please
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<yakko> shevy: I just came to ask for a simple favor spreading an open-source project because I just released version 2.0
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<freeone3000> I have two hashes. a.to_s == b.to_s, but a != b. Why?
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<yakko> I thought MINASWAN was applied here :(
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<shevy> for rails advertizers?
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<yakko> freeone3000: because by a==b you are comparing the instances, if you do a=b, then a will == b
<shevy> freeone3000 why not?
<yakko> freeone3000: every time you do a={} remember it means a=Hash.new
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<benzrf> freeone3000: because screw you apparently??
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<shevy> >> a = {}; b = {}; a.to_s == b.to_s
<eval-in____> shevy => true (https://eval.in/192488)
<benzrf> freeone3000: what are the to_s's
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<shevy> >> a = {}; b = {}; a != b
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<eval-in____> shevy => false (https://eval.in/192489)
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<benzrf> shevy: lol nice try
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<yakko> >> a = {}; b = {}; a == b
<eval-in____> yakko => true (https://eval.in/192490)
<shevy> he never specified what a and b could be, so :>
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<yakko> shevy: still, {} should == {}
<freeone3000> yakko: Okay, how should I compare two different instances of a hash? .equals?
<shevy> >> {} == {}
<eval-in____> shevy => true (https://eval.in/192491)
<shevy> yakko gives back true
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<yakko> shevy: even {} === {
<freeone3000> https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/f198a5383ca79cd0631a are my hashes, but they're gotten from parsing json objects, so they are *not* the same object.
<yakko> >> {} === {}
<eval-in____> yakko => true (https://eval.in/192492)
<yakko> odd
<shevy> :P
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<jhass> freeone3000: Please put your code on https://gist.github.com
<benzrf> >> {"status"=>"STATUS_OK", "output"=>{"deviceData"=>{"gps"=>nil, "ipAddr"=>nil, "timezone"=>nil, "country"=>nil, "language"=>nil, "activeSong"=>nil, "activeAlarms"=>nil, "applicationInfo"=>nil, "auditData"=>nil}, "aliasData"=>{"relationships"=>{"BROTHER"=>[{"aliasName"=>"BROTHER", "value"=>"JD McNamara", "contactId"=>"contact_id_2"}], "MOTHER"=>[{"aliasName"=>"MOTHER", "value"=>"Monica McNamara",
<eval-in____> benzrf => /tmp/execpad-8e2ad38ddf86/source-8e2ad38ddf86:3: syntax error, unexpected keyword_rescue, expecting '}' ... (https://eval.in/192494)
<shevy> well
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<benzrf> "contactId"=>"contact_id_1"}]}, "locations"=>nil}, "mediaData"=>{"songData"=>[], "videoData"=>[]}, "contactData"=>[]}}
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<benzrf> eenteresting
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<shevy> looks like two identical lines to me
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<benzrf> and pasting it twice is ==
<freeone3000> shevy: The lines are identical. The .to_s equal each other. The hashes do not.
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<shevy> >> { :foo => 'bar'}.to_s
<eval-in____> shevy => "{:foo=>\"bar\"}" (https://eval.in/192496)
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<shevy> freeone3000 so you are saying the to_s leads to the same result - but the hashes itself are not equal
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<freeone3000> shevy: Sure.
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<yakko> >> {}.object_id == {}.object_id
<eval-in____> yakko => false (https://eval.in/192501)
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<zwischenzug2> hello, i can't get the stack-explorer gem working with pry
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<zwischenzug2> it says the following: .rvm/gems/ruby-2.1.0/gems/pry-stack_explorer-0.4.9.1/lib/pry-stack_explorer/when_started_hook.rb:49:in `remove_internal_frames' (see _pry_.hooks.errors to debug)
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<zwischenzug2> was wondering where I might be able to find _pry_.hooks.errors so I can try and debug
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<shevy> freeone3000 I don't think this is possible
<jhass> freeone3000: can you grab some of the json and make a runnable reproducing example?
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<zwischenzug2> anyone have a clue? looks in the gem directory, but couldn't find it there
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<greenride> Is there a solution to this problem( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14126392/reading-a-txt-file-with-escaped-characters-in-ruby ) that doesn't involve rolling your own solution?
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<greenride> I want to read a string from a file exactly as is... with escape sequences.
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<greenride> without escape sequences
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<jhass> freeone3000: on a side note don't raise Exception. Raise StandardError (which is the default if you give just a string to raise) if you can't be bothered to make your own exception classes
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<greenride> jhass: Thanks. That was helpful.
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<shevy> any of you have ideas how to best register a task
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<shevy> without depending on cron
<shevy> pure ruby
<shevy> like "in 5 days, popup a zenity message"
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<jhass> shevy: Process.daemon; sleep 5*24*3600; do_stuff
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<jhass> but just use cron, systemd timers or whatever
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> lemme lookup the document for Process.daemon first
<shevy> *documentation
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<shevy> won't that leave zombies?
<jhass> no
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<eam> shevy: it reparents to init
<eam> init reaps zombies
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<shevy> hehe
<shevy> so init is like our zombie killing hero
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<shevy> like that dude with the giant lawn-mower car driving into the army of undead
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<shevy> I forgot the name of that movie :(
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<eam> shevy: that would be army of darkness
<eam> a solid unix tutorial video if I've ever seen one
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<shevy> aaah
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