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<mister_flash> hi
<mister_flash> Please tell me
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<mister_flash> help please
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<mister_flash> please
<leftylink> you didn't ask a question, therefore it is not possible to help
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<mister_flash> hi leftylink
<mister_flash> My question is : Is ruby dying or not ?
<mister_flash> Hi have been programming in PHP for 2 years, but never used a framework
<mister_flash> Now i want to use a framework
<antholog> ruby is not a framework
<mister_flash> so I have seen laravel
<mister_flash> django and ruby on rails
<mister_flash> the fact is that I am bored of PHP
<mister_flash> not that I don't like it, just bored
<leftylink> don't know and don't care whether ruby is dying. I use it, that's good enough for me
<mister_flash> but there are some things I don't like in Python
<mister_flash> and I found the ruby syntax pretty clear
<mister_flash> but many guys tell me that Ruby will dye very soon, so I should not go with it
<mister_flash> What shoud I do ? help
<antholog> ruby is a very pleasing language to use, I'd suggest checking it out and deciding for yourself
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<cxl> havenwood: thanks. I'd probably want to have templates in files because that would be a lot of inlining ERB. But that's helpful
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<cxl> If I have a throw and catch, how can I log that something was caught only when it was caught? I don't want to do it where I throw, I want to do it in the parent class where I catch. But I can't figure out how to do it because catch is basically begin in exception's terms and I don't understand where the rescue equivalent is in that case.
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<cxl> One more: I am parsing a CSV file that has "é" in its header. But when I use the CSV module to parse it, "é" becomes "\xC3\xA9". I know this is an encoding problem, but "ISO-8859-1" and "ISO-8859-15" don't seem to make a difference: it's still garbled. Why?
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<cxl> oh my... I though the CSV module would use UTF-8 by default, but it uses ASCII-8BIT it seems... Using UTF-8 fixed it.
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<rpaw> Hey guys, question - if I have an array that contains some elems that I need to operate over.. do I need to add a .present? check before I do an .each over the array? I see that it isn't needed, but is it better to be safe by adding a check?
<rpaw> i.e. if the array is empty, it seems that the code inside the each block isn't reached, but do I need to still add a .present check?
<al2o3-cr> rpaw: if the array is empty, it'll just return an empty array.
<al2o3-cr> &>> [].each { |n| n * 2 }
<rubydoc> # => [] (https://carc.in/#/r/847o)
<al2o3-cr> so the answer is no.
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<al2o3-cr> rpaw: i read it wrong. yes, you can test to see if the the array is empty first, if not _do something_ else _nothing_
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<havenwood> Curious if folk are surprised that `d.then.first #=> 42` with this code? https://gist.github.com/havenwood/b0c6bdd59be549a6bb701b575480e55b
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<leftylink> I see. I don't perceive myself to have asked for that many levels of descending into the Optional, so I would declare it surprising
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<al2o3-cr> leftylink: YOU MUST BE SMOKING SOME STRONG SHIT.
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<galtgendo> ...so, I've got a question that's kind of about ruby...
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<galtgendo> how can I install a gem if I already have the file, but can't access 'gem install' command ?
<galtgendo> ...or at least if there's a way to access it, I'm unaware of it
<nofxx> galtgendo, maybe rubygems is in a different pkg, which OS?
<galtgendo> ...unfortunatelly, it's not that...
<galtgendo> you see, if I wanted to run 'gem install' for the *native* ruby, there would be no problem
<galtgendo> but I want to update something run through wine
<galtgendo> rubygems is inside the bundle, but there's no ruby executable, so I either need a fully manual way (I already know how to unpack the gem) or a way to trigger the install from ruby code
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<sh7d> wine cmd
<sh7d> also, > running ruby through wine
<sh7d> shitty idea
<sh7d> unless there are direct calls to win api or shit
<galtgendo> ...I've already said 'no ruby executable' just the lib; I mean I don't know what metadata is being written upon 'gem install'
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<galtgendo> the gem is something I need to add, not update, otherwise I'd likely be already done
<nofxx> galtgendo, hm sorry dunno much.. but I would try just upacking to where other gems are, just specifications/ and gems/ the later the gem itself
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<nofxx> actually I think just the gem's files in the loadpath will work
<galtgendo> ...hmm, I think I've go an idea...
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