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<guzzlefry> Is it worth learning any framework other than Rails if the intent is to find a Ruby job?
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<uplime> it depends on what you'll be doing in ruby
<uplime> if you want to do ruby web stuff, rails is probably a good option
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<guzzlefry> okay, thanks. I'm coming from PHP where there isn't an obvious framework to use for web development.
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<uplime> Rack is the core ruby framework iirc, and most other popular ones (sinatra, rails, etc) are built around that. rails is pretty big, but does a lot of heavy lifting for you
<uplime> core ruby web framework
<agent_white> Also helpful for Chef/Puppet in the backend.
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<uplime> oh hi agent_white
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<havenwood> guzzlefry: I think it's a good idea to create a basic Rack app, without a framework—just to understand how it works.
<havenwood> guzzlefry: Sinatra is the most popular alternative to Rails or Roda and Hanami are high-quality, recent contenders.
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<havenwood> guzzlefry: I'd recommend starting with a Rack app, then when you find routing painful, switch to Roda.
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<havenwood> guzzlefry: Rack is the obvious choice in Ruby, but there are many choices for "Rack frameworks."
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<guzzlefry> I was hoping to go whichever route would get me a job quickest.
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<havenwood> guzzlefry: I think a few hours to a day to orient yourself with Rack makes sense. Past that, I'd suggest focusing on learning Ruby.
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<havenwood> guzzlefry: exercism.io has some good practice Ruby challenges with tests.
<havenwood> guzzlefry: Please share code here if you'd like additional feedback!
<havenwood> guzzlefry: Can you write a FizzBuzz in Ruby?
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<guzzlefry> havenwood: I'd need to learn the basic syntax, but yeah.
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<guzzlefry> Also, wish I knew about exercism.io when I was busy learning Rust. I forget anything I don't drill into my brain. :)
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<thelounge35> my login script is bad http://admins.backalley.cloud does anyone have php skills here?
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<aces1up> what is the rails channel says #ror invite only
<aces1up> ?
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<havenwood> aces1up: #rubyonrails
<havenwood> ah, you already found it!
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<ua> jesus christ, ruby memory usage is killing me
<ua> i have csv thats not even 700mb
<ua> but after parsing it process takes like 10.4gb of ram
<ytti> stream it
<ytti> you're creating complex objects from each line
<ua> yeah but still, like 15:1 ovehead seems excessive
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<ua> also i need to gather some statistics on that data so i can filter it
<ua> into 3 categories
<ytti> it is not ideal but very common in OO languages
<ua> so yeah in theory i could first just gather stats and then filter without keeping all the parsed data in memory at once
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<ua> also i dont think csv lib is necessary prolly just \t separated lines and then splitting them by \t will do
<ua> will try it out in a sec
<ua> lines with entries separated by \t *
<ytti> frankly you may be best not using CSV
<ua> yeah
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<ua> hmm ruby releases are around christmas every year i remember that correctly right?
<ua> yeah Ruby 2.7.0 will be released on Dec 25
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<ua> hmm gotta try that csv thing on 2.7-rc2
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<havenwood> ua: You can see CSV changes in 2.7 here: https://github.com/ruby/csv/blob/master/NEWS.md
<havenwood> (2019 changes)
<havenwood> ua: Parse performance is substantially improved, but I'd not expect memory usage to go down.
<havenwood> ua: Stream!
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