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<DanC_>
maurer, I'm interested to try to make a sandstorm app with nix tonight. I'm going over my notes, and they're not good enough for me to understand.
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<DanC_>
maybe around here there's some code that will take a list of files and make a manifest? (some python code maybe?)
<frigginglorious>
Im trying out creating a meteor app. i wanna use those bitchin real-time features that other SS apps have
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<frigginglorious>
it seems like the official SS docs imply some previous knowlege of meteor
<frigginglorious>
but we will see how hard it is to get rolling
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<frigginglorious>
meteor hates php
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<kentonv>
frigginglorious: don't we all?
<frigginglorious>
kentonv: ouch, bro
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<kentonv>
:P
<frigginglorious>
kentonv: i dont wanna provision another vagrant VM and start over. I think meteor or vagrant-spk packages in stuff when i added .php files? after removing them from the directory, the project no longer runs. Is there a simple way to unfuck it?
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<kentonv>
Meteor and PHP are different stacks... you need to choose one or the other
<kentonv>
Meteor uses Node for the server
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<frigginglorious>
kentonv: i really should have known that. but simply adding in the wrong filetype seems to have brought in some dependancies that made the meteor project no longer run, even after removing them
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<kentonv>
that sounds... odd.
<frigginglorious>
OOORRR i missed something entirely. usually when i have a hunch its way off
<frigginglorious>
my hunches are bad.
<kentonv>
TBH I'm not the best person for vagrant-spk questions. That would be zarvox or asheesh.
<frigginglorious>
no worries, im starting from scratch again!
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<zarvox>
frigginglorious: if you point me at your code, I'll take a look and see if I can nudge you in the right direction
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<frigginglorious>
zarvox: I appreciate the offer! that last box was destroyed, if i end up running into the same issue with this new one, i will let you know :D
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* asheesh
waves, thanks for the ping kentonv
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<asheesh>
frigginglorious: Indeed, if you need help, I'm a good go-to person too.
<kentonv>
new release is out BTW!
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<taco>
would anyone be able to answer a pretty basic question for me?
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<dwrensha>
fire away
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<Guest18154>
I really want to implement sandstorm but the only thing I have a concern with is setting permissions per grain
<Guest18154>
is it possible to have sandstorm update permissions from an external source?
<Guest18154>
like a text file or something of that sort
<dwrensha>
this is making me think of two things that are on our roadmap:
<dwrensha>
1) the concept of "groups", which would allow you to share to a bunch of users as a single action
<dwrensha>
2) grain audit logs, which would allow an admin to see who accessed which grain and when
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<dwrensha>
oh, and I guess also 3) "policies" which would let you specify something like "nobody should be allowed to share this grain to Bob"
<Guest18154>
That would work great is there any kind of documentation on policies?
<Guest18154>
Also super helpful thanks for replying :)
<dwrensha>
I don't think we have any official documentation on policies, as they are not implemented yet.
<Guest18154>
Ohh ok so currently adjusting permissions on a grain is probably best handled by inputting them manually?
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<dwrensha>
yeah, the interface is rather incomplete at the moment
<dwrensha>
if you've shared with a secret sharing link, you can adjust the permissions that are carried by that link
<dwrensha>
if you've directly shared to someone, you can revoke the share and then reshare with the new desired permissions
<Guest18154>
Hmm alright I may have to plan a different plan of attack with what I'm doing but this is a great utility I will find a way to implement it if I can haha
<Guest18154>
thanks for the help rensha I may be back with more questions sometime haha
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<simonv3>
So, I’m not sure how much more the sandstorm people want on their plate, but have you considered targeting municipalities or government agencies?
<asheesh>
: )
<asheesh>
I'd love to do that.
<simonv3>
For example, I know that the NPS uses Google for all of its internal do
<asheesh>
I don't have any particular leads, except for a nice fellow I met at a bar who works at the FTC.
<simonv3>
E-mail, google docs, etc
<asheesh>
IMHO (I don't know if this is Sandstorm Gospel) if you already are OK with Google Apps For Your Domain, then Sandstorm is interesting as a complement, not so much as a replacement.
<simonv3>
It’s a shame that government things like that are owned by a private company
<asheesh>
Annotate doesn't exist in GApps, but by contrast, Google Docs doesn't exist in Sandstorm.
<simonv3>
not yet ;)
<asheesh>
Yeah, exactly, not yet!
<simonv3>
and etherpad comes really close, probably close enough for most people’s purposes
<simonv3>
they just don’t know that
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<simonv3>
When I said “private company” I guess I meant more “closed source single point of failure provider”
<mnutt_>
congrats on the Sandstorm For Work launch! looks great, and I think it's a good monetization strategy.
<mnutt_>
where I work, google apps and others are very entrenched but I wonder if I can start by carving off a specific use case and then expand from there
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<mnutt_>
the one thing that comes to mind as a killer app that I could argue requires us to run in-house is a password manager. I think I could probably make a case to spend 15/user/mo on that alone
<zarvox>
I would love a polished password manager app on Sandstorm. Especially if it had decent mobile support.
<zarvox>
It seems like a really good fit for self-hosting.
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<mnutt_>
yeah, password managers need browser integration to work really well. I just found out 1password has 2FA support, and it's life-changing. No more searching for my phone to log into AWS.
<zarvox>
...doesn't that defeat the 2FA-ness of the 2FA? :P