#sandstorm on 2016-04-24 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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01:08 <phildini> hello. I'm noticing that when I do `vagrant-spk dev`, it's using old versions of some of my files. Any way to "clear the cache" so to speak, on the dev server?

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01:12 <dwrensha> `vagrant-spk vm destroy`

01:12 <dwrensha> `git clean -xffd`

01:13 <dwrensha> don't know if that would be overkill

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01:18 <phildini> dwrensha: I'll try it.

01:19 <phildini> Also, does vagrant-spk auto-update, or is it suggested we just try reinstalling every once in a while?

01:19 <dwrensha> I don't know what the recommended procedure is for updating.

01:19 <dwrensha> It does not autoupdate.

01:20 <dwrensha> I personally have the git repo checked out

01:20 <dwrensha> and it's install as a symlink `/usr/local/bin/vagrant-spk -> /Users/dwrensha/src/vagrant-spk/vagrant-spk`

01:21 <phildini> roger.

01:21 <phildini> I might file an issue to vagrant-spk about auto-updating then (assuming one does not exist)

01:21 <dwrensha> there's also the fact that after you `vagrant-spk setupvm`, the generated files are not automatically updated when vagrant-spk has changes

01:24 <phildini> I filed https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/issues/157 as a starting point.

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03:55 <chabes> having trouble with login again

03:56 <chabes> this time the admin-token url results in "ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT"

03:58 <chabes> was trying to sign in with email login for the first time

03:58 <chabes> but i dont think the email was able to send

03:58 <chabes> i never got it anyway

03:59 <chabes> and it logged me out of the setup interface

04:01 <chabes> i believe that was due to inactivity (took me a while to finish previous page. when i ended up submitting email for email login, it kicked me out)

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04:11 <asheesh> chabes: Hi!

04:11 <chabes> so, in chronological order, was going through setup, got sidetracked at multiple steps, might have taken too long to submit login form (if thats even possible), tried to sign in for first time, page said "sending email..." but never sent anything, page just sat there doing nothing so i tried to press "back" button, got some sort of error cannot con

04:11 <chabes> nect to server message, so i tried sandstorm admin-token again, which results in the timeout error

04:11 <chabes> hi!

04:11 <asheesh> re: email: yeah, email is tough.

04:13 <asheesh> In the middle of sth; will try to help you in a sec

04:13 <chabes> sweet, take all the time you need

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04:26 <asheesh> OK so howdy chabes

04:29 <asheesh> I only have 5-10 minutes, at this random point in my evening, and I am hoping to be as useful as possible to you, so given that, let's try to be efficient!

04:30 <asheesh> Oh, chabes, I wonder if Sandstorm crashed as part of failing to send the email, or something like that.

04:31 <asheesh> chabes: https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/Ns1EwIVfXdP92WXHntZIEqmKjaGGCDGxSweoAaHcFw1 I'm going to attempt to make a debugging checklist

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04:40 <asheesh> OK chabes I need to head out for now, but maybe the above link can help you out.

04:41 <chabes> thank you

04:41 <chabes> going through it now

04:42 <asheesh> Yay!

04:43 <asheesh> I'm apparently still around so keep me posted.

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04:49 <chabes> awesome

04:50 <chabes> http://pastebin.com/DqFf11X6

04:50 <chabes> thats what i get when i check the log

04:51 <asheesh> Basically you need to disable SMTP since it's having trouble reaching your SMTP server.

04:51 <asheesh> Or you need to fix your SMTP config.

04:51 <asheesh> Having said that, I don't see why you'd have the "Connection timed out" issue.

04:51 <asheesh> Er, wait, what is showing you the timeout?

04:51 <asheesh> And/or you need to fix the SMTP port number.

04:52 <asheesh> I guess we should set a really small (1-2 seconds?) timeout on connecting to the SMTP server, and show a useful error message in that case.

04:52 <asheesh> Doesn't seem like your Sandstorm is crashing.

04:54 <asheesh> So that's good at least.

04:56 <chabes> the "ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT" is from chrome when trying to access 7thave.sandcats.io or the admin-token url

04:57 <isd> chabes: did you set up a mail relay?

04:58 <asheesh> chabes: https://7thave.sandcats.io/ works for me (443 not 80). If you do port 80 as well as 443 I think you'll get past the timeout.

04:59 <isd> chabes: does it work if you specify https? I recall you didn't forward 80 before, so if it's trying regular http timeouts are to be expected.

04:59 <isd> I can confirm asheesh's results.

05:03 <asheesh> I just wrote a paragraph in that shared doc about it. (-:

05:05 <chabes> k, kinda strange but i cant connect to https://7thave.sandcats.io using devices on my home network (mac & linux), yet i can connect if i use my phone to connect (using cell network)

05:05 <asheesh> See also, "Do you have a hairpin routing problem" in that doc.

05:06 <isd> asheesh: what app is this, and why can I not select things in order to copy them?

05:06 <asheesh> This is TextEditor and... interesting re: why can I not select

05:06 <asheesh> https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/PCWoNmC5DZmuE9fIIWY-xTInXNjk2r_4eylTqscoGxt

05:06 <asheesh> I guess it's interesting that there's no way to know what app it is.

05:07 <asheesh> The new link gives you edit permission, so be careful I guess, and selecting will now work.

05:07 <asheesh> Whoa I just upgraded the old sharing link to edit permission.

05:07 <isd> asheesh: odd that you can't even select in read-only mode. Also really annoying when combined with the fact that those URLs aren't links.

05:07 <asheesh> Oh, yeah, that is pretty bad.

05:07 <asheesh> I'll file a bug.

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05:09 <asheesh> isd: Remind me your GitHub username, to credit you for the bug report?

05:10 <asheesh> isd: wait, selection with read-only access works for me!

05:10 <asheesh> (I used an incognito window to test)

05:10 <asheesh> What browser are you using?

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05:15 <isd> asheesh: zenhack and firefox, respectively

05:17 <isd> asheesh: I opened the first share link in chromium, and yes, I can select, but I can also *edit*

05:18 <isd> Did you accidentally upgrade the original link? is that even supposed to be a thing? that isn't part of my mental model of how share links work.

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05:21 <chabes> isd: i set up a mail relay but might have done something incorrectly

05:22 <chabes> do you know how i can edit the smtp settings?

05:22 <isd> chabes: it's somewhere under the admin settinggs.

05:24 <chabes> do you know where to locate the admin settings? im still not able to log in

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05:25 <chabes> is it part of a config file i can edit?

05:25 <isd> Click on your user name in the uperr right, there's a drop-down

05:25 <isd> *upper

05:28 <chabes> theres no admin setting in the menu. only sign in, apps, and grains

05:28 <isd> That's actually a really awkward spot for it; except for "sign out" and "account settings," pretty much everything in that menu doesn't seem like it belongs under your name.

05:28 <isd> chabes: try signing in as yourself?

05:28 <isd> Did you set up a user?

05:30 <chabes> was in process of setting up when it brought me to sign in page (using mail/passwordless login)

05:30 <chabes> email wont send

05:32 <chabes> send login email page seems to do nothing for a long time after pressing send

05:32 <chabes> eventually says internal server error

05:33 <isd> Ah. not sure off the top of my head. I bootstrapped mine with github login, then added email after. There's probably something in the docs about how to do this via the cli, but I don't know off the top of my head.

05:33 <isd> But yeah, you're not going to be able to fix this via the dashboard, since you can't log in until you've fixed it...

05:33 <chabes> thats alright

05:34 <chabes> ashees: maybe you know a way?

05:34 <chabes> asheesh: ^

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06:11 <asheesh> Howdy chabes

06:11 <asheesh> Can you get into the admin-token setup area?

06:11 <asheesh> If so, can you use the next/previous to find your way to the email area?

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06:23 <asheesh> Yeah, isd, to my surprise I can change old sharing links' permission levels.

06:23 <asheesh> I'll make a new read-only one, or you can (!) via "Share Access".

06:24 <isd> closed it a while ago; you go ahead.

06:25 <asheesh> b

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06:33 <asheesh> https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/4vrj4sIOFYy1iJfYKkvkqJGUTvBXLhb6CLODn-HQ2UF is read-only fwiw

06:37 <asheesh> https://github.com/rchrd2/TextEditor/issues/new is where I'd file the bug, but since I can't reproduce it, it's not clear that I should file it. So keep me posted.

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06:40 <isd> asheesh: yeah, that's doing the same thing.

06:41 <isd> asheesh: do you actually get a read only page where you can select stuff with that link?

06:43 <isd> chromium seems okay actually.

06:43 <isd> weird.

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06:44 <asheesh> What browser are you using that does have the problem?

06:44 <asheesh> I can try testing in Firefox.

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06:58 <asheesh> isd: I'll get back to that tomorrow. Good night for now!

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07:08 <isd> asheesh: I've only tried chromium and firefox. 'night

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13:45 <Zertrin> I have the issue with firefox for the link https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/4vrj4sIOFYy1iJfYKkvkqJGUTvBXLhb6CLODn-HQ2UF

13:45 <dwrensha> Zertrin: what issue?

13:46 <Zertrin> the one being discussed : text is not selectable

13:46 <Zertrin> I fired up the dev tools of FF to investigate it

13:46 <Zertrin> ok the <textarea> has an attribute disabled=""

13:47 <Zertrin> disabled is not the correct attribute to enforce readonly

13:47 <Zertrin> there is a readonly attribute made for that IIRC

13:48 <Zertrin> confirmed, the correct behavior is with readonly="true" instead of disabled=""

13:49 <Zertrin> will file a bug at the url asheesh gave a few lines above

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13:51 <Zertrin> FWIW, the bug is here: https://github.com/rchrd2/TextEditor/blob/a76f473d6f6cc0d363587692f404b8785f87be7b/public/components/x-main.html#L71

13:51 <Zertrin> disabled="[[!hasPermission]]" is not the correct way to handle that

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14:00 <Zertrin> asheesh: isd: dwrensha: I reported the issue here https://github.com/rchrd2/TextEditor/issues/6

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14:11 <isd> Zertrin: nice work.

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14:46 <pod> any users of the etherpad app hit a lot of input latency? First time using it for anything beyond demo'ing it to folks and finding that I get a multi-second input lag multiple times a minute

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15:16 <asheesh> Zertrin & isd: Yay, thank you.

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19:05 <ocdtrekkie_> Found this Sandstorm thing. Pertains to some issues I saw filed on the Sandstorm repo today: https://diasp.org/posts/5553912

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20:43 <asheesh> ocdtrekkie_: That is amazing.

20:43 <asheesh> pod: I haven't, but that's interesting. Hmm!

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