13:25 <stellar-slack> <ant> what is the best way to request a payment?

13:26 <stellar-slack> <bartek> what do you mean by "request a payment"?

13:38 <stellar-slack> <ant> I was thinking of something along the lines of bitcoin bips 0070-73

13:39 <stellar-slack> <ant> if there isn't anything I am happy to write up a proposed standard similar to theirs

13:40 <stellar-slack> <bartek> do you mean something like uri extension: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0072.mediawiki ?

13:41 <stellar-slack> <bartek> there is a discussion about this in: https://github.com/stellar/stellar-protocol/issues/11

14:10 <stellar-slack> <ant> so the workflow would be I send sms, im, or email to someone with the amount

14:10 <stellar-slack> <ant> they click and it brings up the wallet

14:17 <stellar-slack> <ant> @sacarlson why is horizon better than simply using the account payments (GET /accounts/{id}/payments) call?

14:18 <stellar-slack> <bartek> because it's Horizon's endpoint :) everything here is Horizon API: https://www.stellar.org/developers/reference/

14:19 <stellar-slack> <ant> ok thx

17:31 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Hey Slack, I made something cool ! Right now it's still VERY VERY Beta, but it's a start. It is a "community of exchange" creator... you enter some names + emails and then BIM, you'll receive a mail and you can make exchange of "energy". Everybody starts at 0, but you can go < 0... and so that's a reflection about local community currencies... if you help your neighbour 2 hours, he doesn't need to have 2 hou

17:31 <stellar-slack> receive 2 hours (you see what I mean). Anyway, it's a start: http://prototype.stadja.net/cowaboo/stellar/communityCreation.html

17:35 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Now, the bad part of this app, it's that everything is possible IF a main user (the Hot Wallet) has enough lumen for him to create some accounts... so if the app is working very well: too bad, you can't create other accounts and you can't create new communities.

17:35 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Anyway, it's a starting point of something.

17:38 <stellar-slack> <scott> @stadja: really awesome that you’re building something on top of stellar and IPFS!

17:39 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Yep, no databases, no single point of failure (except for the email sending using a script on my server... I'll have to find something else)

17:41 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Once I'll find something to replace the mail sending or the way to smartly send notifications to other member of the community, anyone can just take the two .html put them somewhere and BAM you have your Community Generator (better than "creator")

17:41 <stellar-slack> <stadja> I really like that

17:43 <stellar-slack> <scott> how are you interfacing with ipfs from the website? server-side or js?

17:44 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Well, some times ago I made an API for myself to post on an IPFS node I currently host

17:44 <stellar-slack> <stadja> so I used that

17:44 <stellar-slack> <stadja> so server-side

17:45 <stellar-slack> <bartek> @stadja: cool idea. I created my first community (me & myself :D)

17:45 <stellar-slack> <stadja> haha that's cool @bartek

17:46 <stellar-slack> <stadja> but expect it to fail miserably in a few times when I'll change everything :)

17:48 <stellar-slack> <scott> lol, bartek, I did the same thing. I’m a village of one

17:48 <stellar-slack> <eva> @stadja: testing out now, awesome! :)

17:49 <stellar-slack> <eva> I made a couple different Eva personalities :P

17:49 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Cool !

17:49 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Anyway I just wanted to share it with you because I really like what you have done so far with Stellar !

17:50 <stellar-slack> <stadja> I don't want to do it now, but I have a question: how do you create an account on the "real" horizon and not the test one ? Is there a paypal to put money somewhere of something ?

17:53 <stellar-slack> <bartek> you'd need to use the exchange. http://kraken.com|kraken.com or http://poloniex.com|poloniex.com are the most popular.

17:53 <stellar-slack> <scott> And I’d be happy to send you some lumens to create an account on the real network, as well.

17:54 <stellar-slack> <scott> Just post whatever accountid I should fund, and It’ll be right along

17:54 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Thanks that's really cool... I'll try to understand how does http://kraken.com|kraken.com works and I'll give that you

17:55 <stellar-slack> <stadja> So, once you have that, with the real horizon you can do the same thing that with the test one right ?

17:55 <stellar-slack> <jed> yeah

17:55 <stellar-slack> <eva> @stadja: you can also just generate a keypair here and send us the public key: https://www.stellar.org/developers/#friendbot

17:56 <stellar-slack> <eva> (just don’t continue with the “get lumens” step

17:57 <stellar-slack> <scott> you have to do 2 things to go “live”: change what server your script is posting transactions to (http://horizon.stellar.org|horizon.stellar.org instead of http://horizon-test.stellar.org|horizon-test.stellar.org), and then also configure your library to use the public network’s passphrase.

17:57 <stellar-slack> <stadja> yes !

18:00 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Right now the Kraken version is to complicated for me... I'll goo with the keypair generation :)

18:00 <stellar-slack> <stadja> And my addressId is GC27NGTU6R3KFGWU6HHOAC3MV5SBK7AC7BXPV2NIJFTJRFWDXT3RC6NV

18:00 <stellar-slack> <stadja> I'll try to play with that very soon :)

18:02 <stellar-slack> <stadja> Anyway, see you soon and have a good night (it's 7p.m in France)

18:07 <stellar-slack> <eva> @stadja: funded! The account is now live https://horizon.stellar.org/accounts/GC27NGTU6R3KFGWU6HHOAC3MV5SBK7AC7BXPV2NIJFTJRFWDXT3RC6NV

18:28 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> stadja: and at some point our stellar pool will allow your interest from your 20Lumen to produce more than enuf transactions per week than most would need. #inflation for more details

18:38 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> @ant as far as just getting info Get .accounts/... direct from something like restclient can be done. but to do transactions requires the need to get a sequence number from the stellar-core. to do something like that without a local stellar-core server to access sql database requires something like a horizon server or an mss-server to do. these servers allow remote http network access to a stellar-

18:38 <stellar-slack> and access.

19:47 <stellar-slack> <regisg27> stellar-base 0.5.4 and stellar-sdk 0.4.2, are the compatible with node 4.3.1 ? I see in package.json {engines: {nodes: <= 4}} so I guess It should be compatible... but since I upgraded to node 4.3.1, I have bugs...

20:28 <stellar-slack> <bartek> @regisg27 what kind of bugs?