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<promach3> Which ecp5 board would you guys recommend to get ? Orangecrab or ULX3S ?
<zyp> I'd say that depends on what you want to use it for
<zyp> orangecrab has more/faster dram, ulx3s is available with larger fpga variants and has more IO
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<promach3> zyp thanks for the hardware advice. what about software support such as litex ?
<promach3> Can orangecrab be used together with ov7670 camera ?
<promach3> * Does orangecrab have enough IO to be used together with ov7670 camera ?
<promach3> Besides, I think ULX3S has GPDI (HDMI) ?
<zyp> hmm, looks like OV7670 has an IO range of 1.7-3.0V, I think orangecrab uses 3.3V
<zyp> ulx3s has 2.5V IO
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<omnitechnomancer> can one actually purchase a ulx3s or are they still manufacture them yourself ?
<promach3> z would you be able to show me the 2.5V IO on ulx3s ?
<zyp> ulx3s has selectable 2.5V/3.3V on the left side IOs and fixed 3.3V on the right side IOs
<zyp> it's selected with a solder jumper next to the GPDI socket
<promach3> Which solder jumper to be exact ?
<promach3> zyp
<zyp> the ones that are labelled 2.5V and 3.3V respectively :)
<promach3> You mean RV2 and RV3 ?
<zyp> yes
<promach3> Strange that why it is made a "solder" jumper
<zyp> you could remove both and solder a header to J5 for a normal jumper if you'd like
<zyp> I figure the reason it's using a solder jumper by default is because all the other parts are surface mount, so the board only requires reflow soldering
<zyp> adding a selective wave soldering step just to solder J5 would increase the cost of manufacturing significantly for little gain
<zyp> or more likely hand assembly than selective wave, but still
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<promach3> zyp how is the SDRAM on ulx3s different compared to the DDR3 memory on orangecrab in terms of memory data transfer protocol implementation?
<zyp> slower and simpler, I guess
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<promach3> zyp wait, I am asking about protocol coding in verilog
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<omnitechnomancer> No DDR signals?
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<tnt> DDR3 has DQS strobes, you need to make use of special fpga features to implement that properly. SDRAM (and DDR1) you're good with just IO registers.
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<clever> ive been digging thru ddr2 docs lately, to better understand the dram controller in the rpi
<clever> and now i know more then i wanted to know, lol
<clever> now i cant stop thinking about how i would implement suspend to ram and deal with self-refresh, without halt the docs.....
<omnitechnomancer> daveshah: Mouser seem to make it really hard to find different but very similar products from the same manufacturer
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