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<waxwing>
well, not the end of the world for such a site :) and there is no "ultimate" solution to this stuff, but the wosign issue is something worth knowing about i guess.
<proslogion>
CHINA NUMBA ONE
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<runeks>
Does OP_CHECKSIG accept both compressed and uncompressed pubkeys?
<sipa>
yes
<sipa>
#bitcoin
<runeks>
Cool
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<andytoshi>
how do i learn about pairing crypto? what curves are out standardized, and by whom? algebraically, what is the pairing eqn used? etc etc
<katu>
also the pbc implementation is fairly nice, considering its academia code. pairings over virtually all curves and fields in one library.
<andytoshi>
oh awesome, katu -- yeah, i've got PBC but i'm sorta poking at it blindly :)
<katu>
oh, dan boneh is this guys adviser :) small world.
<andytoshi>
i think he's also the L in BLS signatures which are one of the most common motivations for using pairings
<andytoshi>
(and dan is the B :)
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<katu>
dan is a bit too gung ho on speed. while bls is simple as a black box construct, safe supersingular curves are hell to implement. IMO BLS can't really compete on speed with schnorr, only compactness.
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<andytoshi>
agreed (tho dan and his students are doing a lot of research on improving speed, which i'm glad about). BLS sigs can also be aggregated and save even more space