#bitcoin-wizards on 2017-01-03 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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01:56 <so> kanzure, you could apply dimensionality reduction, locality sensitive hashing, embedding, projection, etc. a simple example would be the lat,lon -> geohash

01:58 <kanzure> i was looking for something like: information can be withheld but the meaning/value of the withheld information has to be bounded in certain ways in the low resolution sampled version, and also the full version is constrained by the original low resolution sampling that you hand out

01:58 <so> won't be cryptographic

02:00 <so> the geohash is in the ballpark

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02:01 <so> mipmapped z curve

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02:01 <adlai> so: what

02:02 <adlai> (in other words, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c )

02:03 <adlai> sorry, i meant to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxtYqA6ypM

02:04 <adlai> so: can you be less cryptic about what you mean by "be cryptographic"?

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02:17 <so> adlai, a cryptographic hash would usually mean one where even min input difference could yield max output difference

02:18 * adlai recalls the definition being more along the lines of "no min input diff yields less than max/2 output diff"?

02:19 <so> would you agree that's at odds with the structure preserving hash he asked for?

02:20 * adlai doesn't recall that specific term appearing, but needs to study it more

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21:53 <belcher> https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/01/03/bayesian-method-deanonymising-large-percentage-bitcoin-transactions/ paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1612.06747v3.pdf

21:53 <belcher> " To utilize our model, we carried out experiments by installing more than a hundred modified Bitcoin clients distributed in the network to observe as many messages as possible"

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23:14 <TD-Linux> belcher, is this the source of the aws spy nodes?

23:15 <belcher> nope they didnt use AWS, also they did all their spying in late-2013

23:16 <TD-Linux> yeah I just realized that after RTFA'ing :)

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