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<adlai>
adam3us: that is a top-grade typo right there, you get the purple star :)
<adam3us>
no AaronvanW coined the word SPY mining which i also adopted because I think it's more accurate than SPV mining. it's not really SPV, it's just spying on other poole blockheaders
<adam3us>
(in a coindesk article on the topic)
<adlai>
oh, life is too long to read every coindesk article
<adam3us>
yah. i like it anyway "spy mining"
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<Taek>
In my opinion 4x scalability is not worth all of the other headaches (interactivity, coin history linearization). But absolutely worthwhile if we can find a way to collapse the pubkeys into an o(1) or log(n) sized blob
<Taek>
Not to mention, can't use a seed if you are doing client side validation
<Taek>
as you need to remember the history yourself
<kanzure>
how do oyu feel about accumulators for collapsing pubkey data :P
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<Taek>
adam3us: do you maybe have some thoughts on using accumulators to collapse a bunch of pubkeys + sigs into less data?
<Taek>
(we can already collapse the sigs with Schnorr of course)
<Taek>
I guess its also worth adding that some work we've done with Sia would allow us to store data and then retrieve it later using only a seed
<Taek>
IPFS can probably do something similar, but Sia can make formal contracts for storing the data
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<calebnaija>
join
<calebnaija>
any hr
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<rabidus_>
89bpm
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<calebnaija>
hlp
<calebnaija>
hel
<calebnaija>
help
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<calebnaija>
hi
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<adlai>
if a pubkey signs for help in an op_return but nobody mines their call, is it even funny?
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