<glowcoil>
and my sleep schedule defies any mathematical modeling
<glowcoil>
a spray of random dots on a scatter plot
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: i know how you feel all the time now
<glowcoil>
._.
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: lily's a cutie
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<whitequark>
huh, durarara!! is pretty fascinating. in one sentence: Anonymous (the group, yes) and their meatspace rivalry with other factions, set in a connected world.
<vil>
glowcoil: the buildup thing that happens immediately at the beginning
<glowcoil>
vil: the like, wrthprhtprhthpt that happens every couple bars?
<vil>
yeah
<glowcoil>
oh yeah I was proud of that
<glowcoil>
the way I did it:
<vil>
I like it a lot
<glowcoil>
took like a 16th/32nd-note-sized chunk of the vocal harmonies that I was chopping up
<glowcoil>
and repeated it
<glowcoil>
and automated the volume to rise
<vil>
oh cool
<glowcoil>
I did a lot of sample-chopping and repeating
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
or, just *post* your opinions there, and benefit everyone <3
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but let me know when you do.
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: i can explain electricity if what you need is on a simple enough level that i've learned it
<glowcoil>
2 years of high school physics and then a couple semesters of college physics' worth :p
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
hahaha
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'm learning this shit. I can do the math, on paper, and I can work with the values …
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
so, I have a ‘working knowledge.’
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but I don't grok it.
<glowcoil>
ok
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
as I was saying to whitequark the other day
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I just can't wrap my head around the “water flow” analogies that everyone uses. They don't give me any sort of ‘click.’
<glowcoil>
do you have an understanding of like, potentials in general
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
the gravity analogy is a *little* bit better, for me
<glowcoil>
like, water flow and pressure, and balls rolling down tubes and gravity
<glowcoil>
are *very* analogous
<glowcoil>
it's all potential fields
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I can kind of wrap my head around “The resistance is *distance*, and the voltage is *weight* being up high; and then electrical power is that weight being exerted over that distance.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
or something.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ugh.
<glowcoil>
resistance isn't distance really
<glowcoil>
*although*
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
the most useful sentence I ever read was something like,
<glowcoil>
it's like, friction basically
<glowcoil>
like, literally friction
<glowcoil>
because it's collisions of particles resulting in heat
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
“Gravitational potential energy is exerted as power over *distance*; electrical potential energy is exerted as power over *resistance*.”
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I have *no idea* how I hadn't heard of Uppermost before.
<glowcoil>
what's uppermost
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
About once a month, I run across an artist I'd *derided*
<glowcoil>
usic?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
like, if I heard about it in passing, I was like “lol u stupid punk-rock fans” or “lol u stupid ska fans” or “lol u stupid heavy metal fans”
<purr>
lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
somehow I'd just *always* thought an artist was something else that I wouldn't like.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
frankly, probably because I'd known some sort of person I didn't like, and I vaguely recall them liking that band.
<glowcoil>
haha
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and then YEAAAAARS late into the game, I actually *hear* something on Spotify radio or something, I'm like, THIS IS EXCELLENT DUBSTEP or THIS IS EXCELLENT ELECTRONICA
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and I look over, and it's an artist's name that I ‘knew’ to be shitty whiny-kid-with-guitar music.
<glowcoil>
wait is uppermost punk or ska or heavy metal
<glowcoil>
it says electronic
<glowcoil>
haha
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and mind blown, and elliott-feels-like-an-idiot, every. single. time.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
yes, that's the point.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's electronic, and pretty good stuff. listening now.
<glowcoil>
GenresElectro House, Electroclash, Dubstep, Progressive house, Experimental, French Electro
<glowcoil>
meh not exactly my mind-blowing jam
<glowcoil>
but i'd listen
<glowcoil>
the things that really whet my whistle
<glowcoil>
are like
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
just sent you one
<glowcoil>
cool i'll put it on
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
need good subs, for the kinds of stuff I like
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
like, I wouldn't enjoy this current song *at all* on phone speakers
<glowcoil>
oh which account did you send it to
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and it'd be merely “okay” on my Prius's sound-system, or on goodish headphones
<glowcoil>
yeah these monitors are like
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but it's *mind-blowing*, *soul-melting*, sitting here in my living-room.
<glowcoil>
$100-200 so like,
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
idfk, “Micah Johnston”
<glowcoil>
probably my old one
<glowcoil>
i had one that wasn't facebook and then i had one that was facebook
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
oh gods get them merged damnit
<glowcoil>
so like, not like a concert in your living room
<glowcoil>
but like, *invaluable* for producing
<glowcoil>
i could not produce without them
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
yeah, I know what monitors are :P
<glowcoil>
can you do that
<glowcoil>
:p
<glowcoil>
yaikno lol
<purr>
lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
pretty sure they'll merge them if you contact 'em
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
think the music just literally made my dog shit herself
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
now I feel like a bad person
<glowcoil>
egh contacting companies
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
erm, beb
<glowcoil>
but yeah uh yeah
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
one of my dogs can't handle my oven's evacuation-hood (one time, girlfriend turned it on to cook bacon … max comes over and stands next to me, trembling terrified and whimpering, in the farrrr corner of the room … she turns it up one more notch, and he literally shits on my foot)
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and now the other one can't handle my subwoofers. )'=
<glowcoil>
haha aw
<glowcoil>
man
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
song I sent you
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Futur by Uppermost, off Action
<glowcoil>
you should just spotify-link it or w/e
<glowcoil>
in here
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
gets really good around, idk, 3:30 or 4:00
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I listen off my phone.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
OS X has ironically terrible support for Airplay.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
4:00-ish has this *really* meet, grungy beat to it
<glowcoil>
so i know you hate soundcloud links or w/e but
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
grungy, chunky filter over the vocals giving it a positive beat, really enjoyed it
<glowcoil>
this song is the best ever sounds i know of at th emoment
<glowcoil>
so the concert is like, probably what you'd call "whiny guitar music"
<glowcoil>
but like
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
so loads and sources **are** opposite with respect to each other!
<glowcoil>
they're probably one of my favorite several artists ever
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
gods, that's confusing. I wish he'd said that straight-out.
<glowcoil>
they transcend most "whiny guitar music" things
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ugh somebody help
<glowcoil>
like, they draw from like "post-hardcore" and "indie" and "christian music" and shit but they are not in any of those categories
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: basically you never lose track of electrons
<glowcoil>
unless you have something crazy like a capacitor
<glowcoil>
they never pile up
<glowcoil>
they always go somewhere
<glowcoil>
so, current into a junction = current going out of a junction
<glowcoil>
etc.
<glowcoil>
same with volts, it's like height so
<glowcoil>
you can't be gaining or losing it as you go around forever
<glowcoil>
potential difference all the way around the circuit is always 0
<glowcoil>
unless you are in an escher painting
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
sorry, was talking to people in ##electronics
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
useful lot
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's like the opposite of ##C
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I say I'm a noob, and two dozen people all try to help me.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
yeah, thing said current is always the same everywhere in a single closed circuit.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
“potential difference all the way around the circuit is always 0?”
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
wat
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I thought there was a voltage drop across, like, a resistor. duh.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
current is the same, so Ohm's ‘law’, voltage has to change if resistance does
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
have to take a break and make some critical calls.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
go goddamned sleep, glowcoil
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
o7
<prophile>
ELLIOTTCABLE: there can be a voltage drop across a resistor
<prophile>
but the total voltage drop around the entire circuit is 0
<prophile>
so the voltage source will be a voltage increase which balances it out
<prophile>
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
oh, duh
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but a voltage has to be taken with *reference* to something
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
so when I hear, “across the entire circuit,” I think, on opposite sides. Which means the voltage difference of all the components between would be shown, right?
<prophile>
it means
<prophile>
if you take any node
<prophile>
then walk through a series of a components that leads you back to that node
<prophile>
the sum of all the potential differences you've gone through will be zero
<prophile>
current and voltage on their own are pretty boring and obey a simple set of rules
<prophile>
what a component does, essentially, is set some relationship between current and voltage
<prophile>
and that's where all the interesting bits happen
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
oh, yes, clearly
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
sorry, getting to that part
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's me. I'm a bottom-up learner.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I want to sit down, and grok all the component concepts, before I tackle anything based on them.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I insisted on learning Ruby before I learned (my original goal,) Rails. And later regretted not learning ISO C properly before Ruby.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
so I want to understand electrical flow, and all the conventions and terminology used to describe this shit, before I worry about interesting circuits or applications or what I can do with it
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
/=
<prophile>
in my experience neither the top-down or the bottom-up approach are particularly good...
<prophile>
just learn things as they come and make connections
<prophile>
the "chaos" approach to learning :3
* ELLIOTTCABLE
grins
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
anybody doing JSconf US?
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