lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.2 released, with great performance and networking fixes! -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://github.com/ipfs/community/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md -- Sprints: https://github.com/ipfs/pm
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<noffle> voxelot: thank you!
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<bronger> I'm sitting in a two-days workshop about research data management. It is really mindblowing how often the speakers re-invent utterly poor variants of IPFS features.
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<dignifiedquire> !pin QmRWi9UiMVuQHSc5GAPm1YfPfKsKsqvuJynheE1i2Zj5V6 cats
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created feat/account-peers-better (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vr6jP
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/feat/account-peers-better 8a470c2 David Dias: account peer in peer-mux-established event
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid opened pull request #268: account peer in peer-mux-established event (master...feat/account-peers-better) https://git.io/vr6jD
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: how is it working with the new js-peer-id? all good so far?
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: haven't really release it and bubble up those changes
<daviddias> also in the TODO
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-mocha-2.5.3 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vrieN
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-mocha-2.5.3 e8c34ac greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update mocha to version 2.5.3...
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid deleted greenkeeper-mocha-2.5.3 at e8c34ac: https://git.io/vrifB
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vrifg
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master f0e65eb David Dias: Merge pull request #268 from ipfs/feat/account-peers-better...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid tagged v0.10.1 at a0ca941: https://git.io/vriU3
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid closed pull request #266: joi@8.1.1 breaks build ⚠️ (master...greenkeeper-joi-8.1.1) https://git.io/vrK2k
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<haarts> quick q: when I run the IPFS daemon and I add a file, does that file get distributed through the net?
<mmuller> haarts: no. It is only transferred when you access that file from another computer.
<xelra> haarts: No, only if other people pin it.
<haarts> ah, splendid.
<haarts> In relation to my earlier q; is there a way to prevent my data from being read by other? use case; ppl submit a form on my IPFS backed website. It contains creditcard data.
<xelra> There are some bots for collaborative pinning, but if you want to sync your private files, you'll have to wait for ipfs-cluster.
<haarts> So I can assume that every file I put on the current IPFS will be shared at some point. That's fine, just good to know.
<Kubuxu> haarts: you have to just encrypt it manually for now. We will be working on build-in encryption.
<haarts> that's what I though. also fine for me!
<haarts> BTW does it help if I have the IPFS daemon permentantly running on a server I own?
<xelra> You could encrypt them. IMO it's not enough security though. Everyone can try their cracking on your files to their heart's content.
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu created feature/DiagOnOnlineOnly-2760 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vris9
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/DiagOnOnlineOnly-2760 1c350c4 Jakub Sztandera: Require diag command to run on daemon...
<Kubuxu> You can then pin some data over there to be permanently available.
<xelra> Auth is just as important. So they can only try after they've gained access.
<Kubuxu> xelra: how is auth more secure than encryption?
<Kubuxu> auth bases on the same or possibly weaker encryption (public key based)
<r0kk3rz> xelra: theres quite a lot of things built on the idea that good encryption is uncrackable, like bitcoin for instance
<haarts> Kubuxu: how do I find relevant data to pin then on my server?
<xelra> It's apples and eggs. If you have encrypted documents, you don't put them out on the street either, you still put them in a safe.
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu opened pull request #2761: Require diag command to run on daemon (master...feature/DiagOnOnlineOnly-2760) https://git.io/vriGJ
<Kubuxu> haarts: for now there isn't much, so if you are not producer there isn't much you can do, you could for example pin /ipns/dist.ipfs.io or similar
<Kubuxu> in future there will be collective pinning clouds
<xelra> Let's say there's a flaw discovered in the encryption algorithm. Everyone would have their sensitive data leaked automagically. Because it's out in the world by default.
<haarts> Kubuxu: thanks!
<r0kk3rz> xelra: and for some things that makes sense, but it doesnt really make sense for anything you'd want to put on ipfs
<xelra> I think a proper scheme would be to first have auth and make it in a way to protect unencrypted data. Then have encryption and make it in a way that assumes world-readability.
<xelra> r0kk3rz: Well, I've been eagerly awaiting ipfs-cluster, because I plan on using it as a replacement for XtreemFS, a distributed filesystem. The data I want to put there are user home directories and stuff.
<Kubuxu> There is plan for private IPFS networks support, both PSK and PKI.
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<xelra> My hopes are that I can replicate raid-sytle across multiple ipfs-cluster nodes, that are all owned by me. Also run balancing jobs across it and at the same time give the clients access to their "dfs shares".
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<xelra> There aren't really many solutions that work well over WAN. I have to replicate to 3 datacenters over WAN, and when I read about ipfs-cluster, it seemed it will be a good solution for this.
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<daviddias> haad_: so, orbit-server is just a proxy for redis
<daviddias> so that we have pubsub, right?
<daviddias> can't redis be accessed over http?
<daviddias> or, can't redis be a dep of orbit-server?
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<daviddias> just to make the install process quicker
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<haad_> daviddias: orbit-server is the pubsub, in a way
<haad_> daviddias: not sure what you mean by "can't redis be a dep of orbit-server" (<-- it is)
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/DiagOnOnlineOnly-2760 from 1c350c4 to 3f2f146: https://git.io/vrilg
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/DiagOnOnlineOnly-2760 3f2f146 Jakub Sztandera: Require diag command to run on daemon...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/DiagOnOnlineOnly-2760 from 3f2f146 to d1b5a4b: https://git.io/vrilg
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/DiagOnOnlineOnly-2760 d1b5a4b Jakub Sztandera: Require diag command to run on daemon...
<haad_> yes, that is all in the browser, no local ipfs daemon involved
<daviddias> haad_: I mean, it would be great to do npm i orbit-server and then $ orbit-server
<daviddias> and be all good
<daviddias> without having to do any redis installation manually
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<dignifiedquire> pin! QmXSFHyt9F2z5pSdWaJDKXcBqJZ3SgEhk6X7bo4ASBKYWr orbit
<haad_> daviddias: I see. yeah that's not gonna be possible, unless one rewrites the whole thing, as redis is what provides the pubsub mechanism.
<daviddias> can't redis be downloaded with the module?
<haad_> possibly yeah
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<dignifiedquire> !pin Qmf5V8Lf2E7zeebk8DV11prDyx9xhPRV7m4W73DHK8teS8 dig.com
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #389: Update three to version 0.77.0
<Kubuxu> How is it going?
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<haad_> !pin QmeQvGZCPMw388YsK7XkZjGDXFRUvZCUEiZuhohV9hLQu1
<haad_> pinbot y u no my friend :(
<haad_> dignifiedquire: can you pin that ^
<dignifiedquire> !pin QmeQvGZCPMw388YsK7XkZjGDXFRUvZCUEiZuhohV9hLQu1
<pinbot> usage: !pin <hash> <label>
<dignifiedquire> !pin QmeQvGZCPMw388YsK7XkZjGDXFRUvZCUEiZuhohV9hLQu1 label
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<dignifiedquire> haad_: there you go
<Kubuxu> haad_: you might want to change your nick to just 'hadd'
<Kubuxu> haad
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<haad> nice :)
<haad> finally available again
<haad> !pin haad's nick
<Kubuxu> Was it squatted?
<haad> yeah, by me :)
<Kubuxu> Hahah
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<haad> some dead connection I couldn't find anywhere
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #390: Update three to version 0.77.1
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<noffle> Kubuxu: you're doing awesome keeping all of the go-ipfs issues/pulls covered :)
<Kubuxu> noffle: thanks, trying the best I can, especially that whyrusleeping is on vacation
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<Kubuxu> So I am leaving tomorrow morning for 3 days for bike mountain trip, I am taking my notebook but I don't know how good the reception will be.
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<voxelot> safe travels Kubuxu o/
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<noffle> Kubuxu: that sounds fun -- enjoy
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<Kubuxu> Worst case scenario (rain) we will spend 3 days drinking in mountains :p
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<noffle> sounds dreadful
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu pushed 1 new commit to feature/Godeps-to-gx-2: https://git.io/vrPwM
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/Godeps-to-gx-2 1f868b1 Jakub Sztandera: Migrate rs/cors to gx...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Stebalien reopened pull request #2516: Correctly set the content type for `object get --encoding=protobuf` (master...protobuf-content-type) https://git.io/vVOsT
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<yangwao> \o/
<yangwao> Kubuxu: high tatras or which mountains? :D
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<noffle> I'm very fond of this article that uses nickelback to argue against the "need" for distributed systems to bake in economic incentives: http://www.backalleycoder.com/2016/05/25/the-nickelback-persistence-conjecture/
<Kubuxu> yangwao: no, to Beskids
<yangwao> see, must be nice there
<Kubuxu> Yeah, we have few routes planned out and I hope weather will work out.
<yangwao> well, on Tuesday there was massive thunderstorm around Bratislava, on weekened there is forecast of some strong thunderstorm, we will see
<yangwao> take your rain coat :D
<Kubuxu> Storm just passed through Kraków and as I was looking in last few days there were few storms out there.
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<vijayee_> I love this article noffle
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<Kubuxu> Yup, great article.
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<Kubuxu> After all I am not taking the notebook
<Kubuxu> 30l backpack too small for cycling clothes and gear + notebook
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<lgierth> Kubuxu: i see you pinning a lot -- noticed any delays or hangs or errors in the past week or so?
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