#ipfs on 2016-05-14 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:18 <ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #380: eslint@2.10.0 breaks build

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00:24 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] noffle pushed 1 new commit to mfs_file_dirs: https://git.io/vr39F

00:24 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/mfs_file_dirs e50dfa1 Stephen Whitmore: Less aggressive erroring and better tests....

00:26 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] RichardLitt force-pushed feature/add-default-to-publish from a4f1f71 to 475d730: https://git.io/vr3He

00:26 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/add-default-to-publish 475d730 Richard Littauer: Added Default logic to publish...

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00:39 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/add-default-to-name fb03cb7 Richard Littauer: Added Default logic to `name` cmd, and local option...

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00:43 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/spruce-upstat b920e36 Richard Littauer: Add helptext, default logic to `ipfs stats`...

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00:43 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/spruce-upstat 1523ae3 Richard Littauer: Add helptext, default logic to `ipfs stats`...

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00:46 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/add-default-to-refs 90421f5 Richard Littauer: Added Default logic to refs...

00:49 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] RichardLitt force-pushed feature/add-default-to-bootstrap from 4267f01 to bffd648: https://git.io/vrLcs

00:49 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/add-default-to-bootstrap bffd648 Richard Littauer: Added Default to `bootstrap` cmd...

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01:31 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr35Y

01:31 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 6cef4ff Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2678 from ipfs/feature/add-default-to-refs...

01:32 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feature/add-default-to-bootstrap at bffd648: https://git.io/vr35s

01:33 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr35C

01:33 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master d183e34 Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2659 from ipfs/fix/circleyml...

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02:16 <alu> http://frideynight.com/

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02:25 <whyrusleeping> alu: sound playing on website load? thats a war crime

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03:33 <mikolalysenko> alu: is that a reference to charles barkley shut up and jam gaiden on that page?

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04:06 <voxelot> richardlitt: which standard-readme was the one you wanting us to look at?

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09:25 <ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] dignifiedquire closed pull request #220: Update ipfs-api to version 4.0.0

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10:30 <ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] dignifiedquire pushed 1 new commit to core/object: https://git.io/vrsTf

10:30 <ipfsbot> js-ipfs/core/object e8c2898 Friedel Ziegelmayer: first round of fixes for http-api changes

10:31 <ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created fix/object-data (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vrsTU

10:31 <ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/fix/object-data a73902b Friedel Ziegelmayer: start fixing small issues with the new object api

10:31 <ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire opened pull request #273: [WIP] start fixing small issues with the new object api (master...fix/object-data) https://git.io/vrsTT

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11:21 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu created feature/LongDesc-#2691 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vrsk6

11:21 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/LongDesc-#2691 b507b7c Jakub Sztandera: Add logic for copying ShortDes to LongDesc if it is not present...

11:23 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/LongDesc-#2691 from b507b7c to 7f61b31: https://git.io/vrskH

11:23 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/LongDesc-#2691 7f61b31 Jakub Sztandera: Add logic for copying ShortDes to LongDesc if it is not present...

11:24 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu opened pull request #2694: Add logic for copying ShortDes to LongDesc if it is not present (master...feature/LongDesc-#2691) https://git.io/vrskQ

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11:48 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: o/

11:48 <dignifiedquire> hey voxelot \o

11:48 <lgierth> isn't it like 5am in l.a.?

11:49 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: tries to adjust to european timezones :D

11:49 <voxelot> lgierth: yarp, as much as i can

11:49 <lgierth> i'm kinda adjusted to east coast time, but that's not really intentional :)

11:49 <dignifiedquire> lgierth: still from your travels?

11:50 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: how are things? making good progress?

11:50 <lgierth> dignifiedquire: naah i just have a hard time going to bed before 12

11:50 <dignifiedquire> :D:D

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11:50 <dignifiedquire> I know the feel, but my son usually kicks me out of bed latest at 9

11:50 <voxelot> starting too :D was wondering if you had a moment to help me understand whats happening with the object part of js-ipfs-api

11:51 <voxelot> i want to do the same thing for files probably

11:51 <lgierth> yeah i imagine kids help with that

11:51 <lgierth> or rather, they take the sleep schedule decision out of your hand :)

11:51 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: wats a promisify o.0

11:52 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: magic

11:52 <dignifiedquire> promisify takes a callback based function and makes it return a promise if no cb is passed

11:52 <voxelot> your js sorcery makes me feel incompetent

11:53 <dignifiedquire> :(

11:53 <voxelot> hmm, so the api still works on callbacks if they are provided

11:53 <dignifiedquire> yes

11:53 <ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] dignifiedquire pushed 1 new commit to core/object: https://git.io/vrsLI

11:53 <ipfsbot> js-ipfs/core/object 7fb1f60 Friedel Ziegelmayer: green

11:53 <dignifiedquire> https://github.com/manuel-di-iorio/promisify-es6

11:53 <dignifiedquire> just look at the source, it really isn't magic, it's the same thing we did before, just now we use an external method to make life a bit easier

11:54 <dignifiedquire> daviddias: when you are around please review and merge if possible these prs: https://github.com/vijayee/js-ipfs-merkle-dag/pull/35 and https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/pull/273

11:55 <voxelot> so before, the api only sent requests to the http-api endpoints of go-ipfs, but now they are sending requests, waiting for response, doing some things, then returning to the caller, to try and make the go and js cores offer the same interface to devs?

11:56 <dignifiedquire> if needed yes

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12:06 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/commit/586b36f556399ac512d8efb58966986f00b3401c#diff-2b0acdb7dd35c5188571bbcc89aef675R19

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12:06 <voxelot> where do i find what does :D

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12:08 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: nvm, i'm blind, couldn't see the function below

12:10 <voxelot> could start using 'is'-ipfs' module here https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/blob/586b36f556399ac512d8efb58966986f00b3401c/src/api/object.js#L254

12:11 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: will check a buffer or string for valid multihash https://github.com/xicombd/is-ipfs

12:11 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: not sure what you mean

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12:12 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: agreed, have a similar function in https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/blob/core/object/src/core/ipfs/object.js#L10-L22

12:13 <dignifiedquire> would be good to move that into it's own module

12:13 <dignifiedquire> or into is-ipfs

12:13 <voxelot> right, we could make is-ipfs return more than a bool in another function

12:14 <voxelot> like a stringFormatMultihash(

12:14 <dignifiedquire> I think is-ipfs should continue to return booleans but we can add a new method that does normalization

12:14 <dignifiedquire> actually

12:14 <dignifiedquire> I already have that

12:14 <dignifiedquire> where it belongs

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12:15 <dignifiedquire> or at least this makes it a lot easier:

12:15 <dignifiedquire> https://github.com/jbenet/js-multihash/pull/11

12:15 <dignifiedquire> probably best to add the method there

12:16 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: ohh nice!

12:16 <voxelot> agreed

12:16 <dignifiedquire> just merged it, could you make a pr for the normalization method?

12:17 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: also keep in mind these fixes: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/pull/273/files

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12:18 <voxelot> sure! think combing is-ipfs + new mh.toB58 string will make that easier

12:19 <voxelot> i won't need to try catch? just return if is-ipfs fails now

12:20 <dignifiedquire> you still need a way to pass an error to the callback if missing/invalid multihash

12:20 <voxelot> or, i could just edit cleanMultihash

12:20 <dignifiedquire> I imagine sth like if (isIpfs(mh)) {return normalize(mh)} else { throw new Error('fail')}

12:21 <voxelot> yup

12:21 <dignifiedquire> yeah but we need that method in both js-ipfs-api and js-ipfs that's why I'm suggesting to move it into js-multihash

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12:27 <voxelot> ahh ic, and we are calling b58 encoded multihash string as normalized return?

12:29 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: it looks like https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/blob/core/object/src/core/ipfs/object.js#L10-L22

12:29 <voxelot> wants normalize to be a buffer, so should i create two versions of normalize? or an option for which type of normal you want back?

12:29 <dignifiedquire> yes

12:30 <voxelot> which is that not a good name if it isn't one type of return?

12:30 <dignifiedquire> not sure, maybe a normalizeToString and normalizeToBuffer ?

12:31 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: works for me :D

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12:42 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: think I want is-ipfs to be smart enough to return string or buffer with the bool

12:42 <voxelot> So normalizeToBuffer knows to convert or not?

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12:45 <voxelot> Not sure that's really worth. Could just check the type in one line in normalize

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12:52 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: tbh with the new methods on multihash and is-ipfs we can just keep the methods in js-ipfs and js-ipfs-api they become just two lines or so

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13:25 <numeo> irc

13:25 <numeo> woops sorry

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13:31 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] cryptix deleted go1.6b1 at 9ac239d: https://git.io/vrsYz

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14:39 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] RichardLitt force-pushed feature/add-default-to-files from 97b49b9 to 91049ec: https://git.io/vrsss

14:39 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/add-default-to-files 91049ec Richard Littauer: Added Default logic to `files` cmd...

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14:46 <dignifiedquire> daviddias: are you around by any chance?

14:46 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: still here?

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14:47 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: yeah

14:47 * dignifiedquire is not alone

14:47 <voxelot> whats up?

14:48 <voxelot> 0.o

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14:49 <dignifiedquire> I want to rip apart js-ipfs

14:49 <voxelot> i'm in zlib land

14:49 <dignifiedquire> move core into its own module

14:50 <voxelot> hmm

14:50 <dignifiedquire> say hi to zlib from me :)

14:50 <dignifiedquire> haven't been there in a while ;)

14:50 <voxelot> benefit of moving core out of js-ipfs?

14:51 <voxelot> because I was thinking of making a custom js-ipfs with just init and add functions :D

14:51 <voxelot> and daemon things

14:51 <dignifiedquire> custom js-ipfs?

14:52 <dignifiedquire> well right now js-ipfs is like three projects together with very little integration, the tests are seperated

14:53 <voxelot> like strip out all the commands a web app isn't using, so if that app only needs jsipfs add it's lighter on the browser?

14:53 <dignifiedquire> and it would be much easier ship indidvidual updates I feel

14:53 <dignifiedquire> I thought that was the goal for core already

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14:55 <voxelot> yeah i suppose core but trimmed, not sure there is any need for that though

14:56 <voxelot> i want to learn the libp2p things,

14:56 <voxelot> like how a browser instance of js-ipfs will make requests to go-nodes, via websockets?

14:56 <dignifiedquire> so we would have sth like js-ipfs-core js-ipfs-cli js-ipfs-http, and js-ipfs only pulls in everything into a shippable binary

14:57 <dignifiedquire> in the first phase yes, that's handled/will be handled in http://github.com/ipfs/js-libp2p-ipfs-browser

14:57 <dignifiedquire> that's already integrated into js-ipfs core where js-libp2p-ipfs is replaced with this when packaging for the browser

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14:58 <voxelot> ahh that's what i was looking for :) https://github.com/ipfs/js-libp2p-ipfs-browser/blob/master/src/index.js#L5

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15:04 <dignifiedquire> yep that's alreay in place :)

15:04 <dignifiedquire> the core tests for bitswap are exchanging blocks between node.js and browser nodes

15:04 <dignifiedquire> using exactly that

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15:13 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: how are calls made to the core from the browser reaching other nodes? http requests over the swarm dials?

15:14 <dignifiedquire> which calls? internode communciation happens over the streammuxer and controlling nodes over js-ipfs-api

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15:23 <voxelot> ahh, js-ipfs-api -> js/go http-api (server) -> core -> core node_modules -> core -> js/go http-api -> js-ipfs-api (res)

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16:19 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: yes sth like that

16:19 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: do you think it would help people to understand this if I made a diagramm of these communication layers?

16:26 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: yeah i like diagrams :) , there is something like that in the js-ipfs readme already, but there is just a whiteboard picture for libp2p

16:26 <voxelot> would like to help if possible

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16:40 <dignifiedquire> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/gS9dmcNO/Scannable+Document+on+14+May+2016+18_39_40.png

16:40 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: rough high level view

16:42 <voxelot> dignifiedquire: awesome! a lot like how i imagine it, even have the direct webrtc lines

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16:45 <voxelot> so js-core running in the browser will make direct websocket calls on the go and js native cores

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16:51 <dignifiedquire> yes

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16:55 <voxelot> has anyone tried exchanging blocks from browser js-core to native go core?

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17:01 <dignifiedquire> voxelot: not yet possible because the stream muxing protocols are not yet a 100% matching

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19:02 <ed_t> what programs/app show ipfs at it best?

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21:54 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vrsKn

21:54 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master b8669ba Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2694 from ipfs/feature/LongDesc-#2691...

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21:57 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2656: Added Default(false) to verbose for `active` and `dht` cmds (master...feature/add-default-false-to-verbose-flags) https://git.io/vrTZx

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22:29 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2677: Added Default logic to publish (master...feature/add-default-to-publish) https://git.io/vrqPj

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